
Photobucket ImageSince I clicked the link I shouldn’t feel too foolish… even after reading The Beautiful Kind’s intro…
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. A fppp?? (female pterodactyl pterodactyl pterodactyl)
... but what actually struck me about the video clip behind the link was the sounds. Two things about it actually.
First, I’ve had sex with… ok, a lot of people. And been in enough thin-walls situations to be pretty familiar with the sounds at least as many other people make during sex. Enough to say that with a margin of error of around two percent only one percent of women perpetually moan with a pleading, baby-like whine the way… roughly 100% of all women in porn seem to.
It’s not that people don’t make sounds when they have sex. But, seriously, even when people moan and groan they almost never, really, seriously, almost never moan the way it’s so consistently represented in porn.
Second, while I tend to be pretty non-vocal during sex (the same paralysis that causes “O” face affects my vocal chords as well) I’ve overheard enough others having sex to know men are overall about as vocal as women. You can hear one of the three “pterodactyls” in TBKs clip moaning slightly but there’s nary a… well… peep from the other two. He (which ever one, they’re all wearing masks) actually sounds like… most people actually sound.
True, unlike actual sex porn sex is acting. And it seems even sillier to expect higher standards for enacted sex sounds than they’re held for any other kind of acting. And, again based on the actual activities in porn as opposed to what it ostensibly represents, what other continuous sort of sounds would you make while doing what amounts to step aerobics for seven to twenty-minute stretches?
And also, true, even if not everybody moans the way women do in porn it’s fine that some people do.
And finally, also true, if you’ve been a reader for a while you’ll remember I complain about this porn trope fairly often, so it’s reasonable to ask “how come it’s bad to moan but ok to whine?”
Eh. When you have an option to represent a vast array of sexual interest and activity from orientation to inclination, costume to dialog, position to location, and so on the choice to represent one element with a consistency that’s nigh unto boilerplate suggests something else is going on. That something else is wanted in the representation.
I don’t know if it’s the producers, the consumers, the actors, or what but after a while I keep thinking about that Steve Martin movie where the character insists that the quality of a drink is indicated by whether or not it has a little paper parasol in it. And once I started thinking about parasols when I listen to that monotonous, ubiquitous sound of porn I can think of nothing else. Except maybe that our popular understanding of sex, and perhaps even our experience of it, is very, very impoverished.
They were flapping. :)
I agree, however, that very few people in real life make that sound. It’s actually kind of an uncomfortable sound; everyone expresses their pleasure in their own way and all that, but if I heard someone make that sound in bed my first thought would be not “she’s loving it” but “she’s getting sore and needs lube or a break.”
[I agree. Or actually, what it really sounds to me is more something like some kind of semi-encouragement “sheesh let’s get this over with already.” Which, assuming they assume an audience of solitary masturbators, might actually be the intent. But yeah, if someone was doing it with me I’d immediately check in to make sure they were ok. Most people, men or women, I’ve heard in real life when they’ve been deep in real sex sound way more like whichever guy is moaning in the clip. And yeah, they were flapping! And WTF with the puppet head too? Thanks, Holly. —fl]
It probably has a lot to do with the studio and genre. I don’t watch much mainstream stuff (Vivid, etc.), so I can’t comment on it one way or the other, but the stuff that I do watch (which still seems to be popular, just not mainstream — Ninn Worx, that kind of thing) doesn’t have that kind of consistency. I can’t recall the last time that I heard anything approaching a “whine;” in fact, and I’ve heard just as much variation in the porn as I’ve heard from my partners. Which is quite a large amount.
It doesn’t seem to be that common with the stuff I’ve seen leased out to porn sites, either (It’s Your Porn, Webdream, Spunk Content, Matrix Feeds, etc.). So could you give an example of the kind of studio you’re talking about? It’d be interesting to see where the differences are.
[To be honest I’m not up for dredging digging up examples, although I think I’ve referenced them in the past. I will say its common enough to have put me off random forays into services like YouPorn, in part, because of that sort of baby-talk “yea, uh-huh, mmmm” loop thing. If it’s not as common as I imagine that’s a good thing. But I don’t think you’d have to go that far to find an instance. Thanks, Infra. —fl]
I haven’t visited sites like YouPorn (I assume that it’s a clip site) so I’ll have to see if I can find some examples; or I may just go ahead and research the popular studios and see what I can get from the local rental shops.
Regardless, thanks for the info and follow-up.
[Thanks, Infra. —fl]
There’s a widely publicized article on pornography that deals with the er… sound effects which you might find interesting. Here (first four paragraphs):
P.S.: the website offers me to prove I’m not a bot by typing thrust-tocratic. Ahem.
[Thanks for the link, f. Also, the author makes an interesting about actresses reactions to anal penetration being deemed more “authentic.” Kind of a funny conceit but it would help explain why it’s so numbingly prevalent. —f]
Oops – got too distracted by ‘thrusttocratic’ to re-read myself properly. Put ‘author who wrote’ in between ‘publicized’ and ‘article’. Sorry.
Now the thing asks for ‘been stripped’! I swear!
[Yep, welcome to the eerie coincidences of reCaptcha text. I’m not sure what the trick is but it does seem too coincidental to be… well… coincidental. Thanks, F. —fl]
God that Pterodactyl Moan clip was goofy. More thoughts on sex sounds: A lot of European women in porn sound like they’re saying “Ow” instead of “Oh” while they’re having sex.
And Japanese women in porn always sound like they are victims or in pain, which makes me think they aren’t into it, but maybe I am wrong about that, and they just sound different than me.
Me? I sound like a banshee. I seriously want to tape record my next sex session and listen to it. I’m sure it’s hot but it might also make me laugh. I scream and plead and gasp and moan and cuss and sometimes I say oy oy oy or NO even tho I mean YES and sometimes I have to shut up for a second so I can listen to my man grunt and rut and growl and whisper “FUCK” in my ear, all low and dirty and his breathing sounds like a steam engine coming down the tracks about to run me OVER.
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