How Gender Constructions Interfere With Understanding Libido in Relationships

Em & Lo: Sex. Love. And Everything in Between. give a pretty comprehensive answer to a very specific question about libido and gender assumptions.

[T]here are two kinds of desire when it comes to sex: there’s a physical desire to get naked, and then there’s an emotional desire to be close to your partner. You clearly have the emotional desire. And you know what? Maybe that’s all you’ll ever have. Or maybe you’ll feel emotional desire most of the time and once in a blue moon your physical desire will show up.

But that doesn’t mean you’re “broken inside.” To think that way is to take a very male-centric approach to libido. Just because your physical drive doesn’t match your boyfriend’s, doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with you. It just means you’re different.

They said it here.

Even better, they reprint a really excellent column they wrote for Red Magazine in 2007 that really drives home the point that defining libido only in stereotypical/gendered male terms isn’t just unfair it’s counterproductive. I can’t recommend the post enough since they really cover the bases in (even better) completely non-judgmental terms.

Here’s where it gets really interesting though. Ordinarily I’d just stop here but by complete coincidence when I opened Em & Lo’s post I happened to have in front of me a copy of Bob & Susan-Yager-Berkowitz’s He’s Just Not Up for It Anymore: Why Men Stop Having Sex, and What You Can Do About It The authors point out that in between 10% and 20% of long-term relationships it’s the man not the woman who’s got the “dysfunctional” (meaning “lower or non-existent”) libido…

Which means using men as the “gold standard” for libido (Joan Sewell’s term in Em & Lo’s repost) doesn’t even particularly suit men!

There are not, unfortunately, many texts out there recommending men boost their libidos through (as Em & Lo quip)

... “working on” their libido? [Lingering] in a bubble bath to awaken their nerve endings, [hitting] the treadmill to get their juices flowing, [insisting] on a backrub to help them warm up to the idea…

... or maybe fortunately since, as Joan Sewell documented so ably in I’d Rather Eat Chocolate: Learning to Love My Low Libido, most of those methods aren’t particularly reliable for women either.

Throw in the inevitable quips/remarks/laments by women, e.g. “I must secretly be a man inside because I love…” and the probably-thought-but-won’t-ever-be-voiced-by-men corollary that men with less interest than their partners must therefore be “secretly women inside,” and mix all that up with the statistical “masking” effect of hetero couples with matching libidos… that might be twice a day or once every leap year… who with a slightly different roll of the relationship dice might be deemed terminally dysfunctional and…

You gotta ask yourself why, exactly, we think constructing gender is a better idea than saying, as Hamlet very aptly puts it “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.” (The problem not being philosophy, obviously, but Horatio’s stunting version of it.)

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I think calling that a “male standard” of libido is in itself sexist. What I miss is MY OWN LIBIDO from when I was in my early 20s. I was hornier then and it was JUST FUN. Now? I’m barely able to summon physical desire to fuck every couple of weeks. “Emotional intimacy” doesn’t make up for that – that would be like saying eating lots of dessert would make up for never getting to eat steak. I like steak!! And I USED to get BOTH.

[Hi Plymouth. “I think calling that a ‘male standard’ of libido is in itself sexist.” Which is, of course, the big joke. I mean, yeah, it’s the “standard” but it’s a set standard — what it’s supposed to be, not particularly what it is. —fl]

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It seems to me that both the answer itself, and the reprinted article, reinforce the stereotypes of men as “high sex drive centred on physicality” and women as “lower sex drive centred on emotion”.

Good as the advice (mostly) is otherwise, I really wish they’d gone for more of an “everyone is different” angle.

Sunflower

[Agreed! It’s my whole bugaboo about gender as a mediating set of arbitrary definitions. Anatomical sex makes sense. Orientation makes sense. Preference (not the same as orientation) makes sense. Level of expression (not the same as orientation or preference) makes sense. Gender, though, is a set of declarations affirming the consequents (“men are masculine so if you’re not masculine you’re not a man”) that a) contributes little and b) confuses much. Thanks, Sunflower. —fl]

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“I really wish they’d gone for more of an “everyone is different” angle.” — SF

I agree, thanks Figleaf for adding it. Silly doesn’t begin to describe the task of categorizing all of humanity into discrete sets—especially 2 discrete sets!

Imagine how much more comfortable we would all be in our skins if we truly got that we, and everyone else, are each individuals with unique subjective experiences—and each of those experiences is normal.

[Oh I don’t know. I think there are two kinds of people, those who overuse stereotypes and those who don’t. :-) Seriously, it’s true that people often have commonalities, and that we can even make predictions based on those commonalities. We’ve just got this unfortunate tendency to burn people at the stake when our predictions aren’t born out instead of saying, say, “cool! Someone interesting!” Which is a bit of a problem. Thanks, Jad. —fl]

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You know, in the trans community we are able to really examine the effects that changing our biology from one gender to the other, and its very interesting.

In my case I am transitioning female-to-male, for lack of better terminology (I personally think that my gender is much more complex, and my biology is much closer to ‘intersexed’, but thats the accepted term). I hang out on a lot of forums like FTM in Bed and so on, and something that comes up a lot is libido and sex drive.

Many FTM’s find that their physical drive to have sex actually decreases, but their comfort with their body increases. This can lead to either an over all increase or decrease in desire to have sex with a partner. (Which as we all know, is something quite different to the drive to masturbate).

So there goes the theory that testosterone is the only indicator for sex drive, since FTM’s have testosterone levels that are as high as cis men, and much higher than women who are not on hormones.

Trans women usually have a severe drop in libido when they start hormones, but often this picks up again if their doctor puts them on progesterone in addition to estrogen. Also different angdrogen blockers have different effects on sex drive. Androkerr (horrible stuff, ‘chemical castration’ for sex offenders is its usual use) kills sex drive (and most happy feelings for many people, from what I’ve heard) dead, but spirolactyn gets rid of body hair without as devastating an effect on sex drive and mood.

When doctors tell us that Men are Horny Cos of the Testosterone I sigh, and wonder why it is they must pretend they even have a clue what the delicate balance of hormones does to our libido’s and moods?

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