Pursuit of (Gender) Happiness Part One: Looking at the Numbers

Maureen Dowd of The New York Times, searching perhaps for alliteration, picked an unfortunate and/or loaded term in Saturday’s Op/Ed piece while lamenting a new study that’s been getting a lot of buzz:

But the more women have achieved, the more they seem aggrieved. Did the feminist revolution end up benefiting men more than women?

She said it here.

First of all, yeah, the feminist revolution has already ended up benefitting men. You’d have to ask women who remember the days before the feminist revolution to say whether women have benefitted. As for whether men or women have benefitted more… I dunno. If the premise is that men can’t know women’s subjective experience or vice versa then I guess you have to take a look at the results everyone else is talking about. Which, fortunately for all concerned, others more skeptical than your average concern troll or NYT columnist already has.

Echidne of the Snakes, a statistician, reads the actual study (via Language Log’s Mark Liberman) and reports

She also points out that the statistics gathered, um, don’t actually show women are unhappier.

In the first set of surveys spanning 1972-74

Gender     Very Happy     Pretty Happy     Not Too Happy
Male  31.9%  53.0%  15.1%
Female  37.0%  49.4%  13.6%


In the second set of surveys spanning 2004-2008

Gender     Very Happy     Pretty Happy     Not Too Happy
Male  29.8%  56.1%  14.0%
Female  31.2%  54.9%  13.9%


Oh rats!

85% of men reported being some kind of happy in 1972-1974
86% of women reported being some kind of happy in 1972-1974

86% of men reported being some kind of happy in 2004-2008
86% of women reported being some kind of happy in 2004-2008

Yes! A huge change! Huge differences! And yes, Dowd’s right, men are one point happier while women’s overall happiness hasn’t increased (ok, ok, or decreased) at all, while women’s unhappiness has increased a whole three tenths of one percent! Roll back that clock, baby, right back to the beginning of Nixon’s 2nd term! We’d all be better off, right?

Echidne nails that one

Most importantly for the purposes of bashing feminism, stay-at-home wives are no happier than those who work

Read the quote in context here.

I didn’t think so. Nor, one imagines, does even Maureen Dowd think so.

Heck, not even Pat Robertson university graduate and Virginia wingnut-party gubernatorial candidate Bob McDonnell believes we’d be better off!

Which is a good thing what with (for better or worse) reported happiness and/or unhappiness statistics being pretty much where they were when Nixon won his second term.

One last thing, though: I happen to thing both men and women covered by those statistics are vastly better off than we were in 1972. And whereas relative happiness may not have changed much between genders, and therefore isn’t measured in comparative statistics, I’m pretty confident absolute happiness is a lot higher. Our food is better, our health is better, our jobs are more rewarding, our families are better, our schools are better, our sex lives are better, our environmental quality is better, our recreational opportunities are through the roof, our life expectancies are better, our mental health and ways to deal with mental-health problems are way better, and…

Our expectations are higher.

Uh. Oh! That last one ought to be a good thing — in fact it is! But near as I can tell it’s the only thing that keeps us from recognizing that we’re a) better off and b) happier in absolute terms than we were. The expectations thing is a bit of an issue, and a lot of our politics revolves around which direction we want them to go. And one source of that conflict of expectations is about whether we’d be better off if we just went back, past the heady days of the Nixon administration and the Viet Nam War to the halcyon days of… Don and Elizabeth Draper. Woah, talk about happy? It never got happier than that!

Note: This is the first of two posts on this topic

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I really admire Echidne and she did a masterful job of picking this apart. There is a slight downtick in the “very happy” category, and maybe it’s meaningless. But to the extent that there’s any sort of there there … I agree that expectations make a tremendous difference, probably to the extent the data from 30+ years ago isn’t even comparable.

I’m not sure that our lives are objectively better in every way – are our jobs really more rewarding when so many people work at crummy service-sector jobs, and so many need two jobs to stay afloat? To the extent there’s a real downdraft in happiness (and I’m still not sure there is) the collision between economic expectations and economic reality is surely an important factor.

Regarding women in particular, we’ve seen serious inflation in what’s expected of mothers. Echidne pointed out to me that the survey found no measurable differences between work-for-pay and stay-at-home mothers, but both have been subjected to ever increasing standards of perfection. Again, if women are actually less happy, I’d be much quicker to point my finger at those unattainable norms than at feminism.

Recaptcha has been watching your HNTs, figleaf: toweled less (maybe that’s a hint??!)

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Oops … “probably to such an extent that the data from 30+ years ago …” (end of first paragraph)

Figleaf, I am missing your preview feature! Or are you just making sure the comment section doesn’t set too high a standard for proofreading? :-)

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I can think of a very obvious reason why feminists might not be happy during 2004-2008: The administration.

Feminism had been doing well during the 80’s in many ways, and women made massive gains in the 90’s. But then, whhaaam, here comes the Bush administration.

Personally, this feminist was far more upset about the Iraq War than Bush’s attacks on women’s rights and about anything that happened to me personally!!!

I was emotionally devastated by the Iraq War. As a kid the Vietnam War always troubled me, much like the Holocaust troubled some young Germans 15-20 years my senior. It was horrific to see another ill-conceived war, and the administration ignore those of us who protested it.

[It’s even weirder than that, Red. If you were to believe charts of the data the “curves” claim to show a straight-line decline in happiness for women and an equally straight-line increase in happiness for men that intersected in roughly 1991. That events like, say, the Reagan recession, say, or the peace and prosperity of the Clinton era, the whole 9-11/Iraq debacle, don’t register suggests at the very least that the data collected wasn’t granular enough. Thanks! —fl]

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