Good Questions From Bond Help Assess Your Gender Identity

Tue, 2010-01-12 00:31

Bond of Dear Diaspora, who wrestles productively with questions of gender, has some gender-clarifying questions of her own.

The following questions are intended to help one’s own thinking only — there are no right answers, nor right interpretations of answers. Some of them are questions posed to me by others, some are questions I stumbled across in one or many places, and some are questions I’ve asked myself. I apologize for not being able to cite them all properly — credit is given where possible, but I’ve consumed a huge volume of information on this topic and I can’t trace it all back now.

I’m aware that the way I’m using phrases like “born as” is somewhat problematic. Keep in mind these are questions, not answers, and that responses like “I have no idea” and “neither” are very much allowed.

Bond asked these questions here.

I’ve pulled the answers out of the block quote so I could answer as best I could. I’m assuming they all wish-related questions relate to gender and not general-purpose. So I won’t say “I wish I could fly” in response to “if a genie came to me…” Answering the questions leave me feeling I’m a strongly cis-gendered, sexually male, impatient-with-gender-impositions man. Which might not be a surprise to you, and which surprised me mostly by how strongly born-cis-male (if not born gendered male) I turn out to be.

#1 If a genie came to you and offered you one wish, to change your body in any way you like, what would your wish be? (Thanks to Rebecca for asking me this one some months ago.)

For me it would be mostly about hair, maybe. I had a friend who by about age 15 could grow a full beard and mustache in just a few weeks. With the result that he could fiddle his appearance endlessly — a pencil-thin mustache one week, and nearly a full cossack in a month. I have more of a classic Scottish/Southerner beard that takes forever to grow and leaves bare patches on my cheeks. And unlike the rest of my hair it’s nearly red! On the other hand he now might wish he had my head hair. I also wish I had either less body hair or else softer and less prickly.

Stepping only slightly further away from gender I’d love it if I’d been less ferociously asthmatic as a kid — skinny boys with sunken chests who can neither run nor roughhouse are tailor made for bullying and gendered taunts. But then I might not be as impatient with that as I’ve turned out to be.

#2 If you could either a) be born in the body of the other sex, with your same gender identity, or b) be born in this body, but be someone who never had gender dysphoria, which would you choose? Why?

It’s sort of cheating since I don’t have gender dysphoria, but B. I suspect if I was born in the body of the other sex, with the same gender identity I have now, I’d spend as much time grappling with these issues as Bond does.

#3 If you could either a) change yourself to have the body of the other sex or b) change the world so you’d be accepted unconditionally as your gender without changing your body, which would you choose? Why?

I think this is a $64,000 question. Also a possibly real-world relevant one. I’ve heard from several sources, each with differing degrees of sympathy for trans issues, that cultural climate seems to have a very strong influence on people’s sense of identity and dysphoria, one that ties in quite a lot with corresponding levels of tolerance vs transphobia and homophobia. And so before I’d ask individuals to undergo the (at present) considerable hassle of surgical and medicinal transition I’d want to do what I could to make present society (including the affected individuals themselves) more comfortable with the ambiguity that seems to be part of ordinary human nature. So my strong preference would be B. (Not that my preference counts for a whole lot — I’m not conflicted about my identity. But then for

#4 If you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be?

In the dimension of male gender stereotype I wish my vocal range could be a little deeper. In the dimension of female gender stereotype I wish I was more physically flexible and that I had a better sense of smell. I also dearly wish I could (still) hear higher frequencies — traditionally high-register hearing loss is a masculine trait but in my case I think it has a lot more to do with rock and roll in my youth.

#5 What would your gender identity be if you’d been born as the other sex? How masculine or feminine would you be? (This comes from an old one for when one is questioning her sexual orientation: What would your sexual orientation be if you were the other sex?)

I gotta say if I had been born as the other sex my brain says I’d probably identify as female, assuming I was as cis-bodied then as I am now. My hindbrain says I’d identify as I am now. Which happens to be male. As for how feminine or masculine, I imagine if I was born female I’d still be pretty dour about gender constructions and work towards the middle. As for orientation since I’m straight now I assume I’d be straight then as well. Which is intellectually easy to imagine but conceptually difficult.

#6 When given the opportunity to construct a persona, such as online, in writing, or in video games, what gender do you make yourself, and why?

When I’ve constructed online personalities I’ve always constructed male ones. I think maybe because of my introverted, couldabeen Aspergers-y personality most of my constructed personalities (including attempts at dialogue in ordinary fiction) come out sounding exactly like me.

#7 Jewish tradition teaches that each person has three names: the name she is given at birth, the name she is called, and her real name. What is your real name?

Interesting question. In a lot of ways my real name could almost be figleaf! I spend an awful lot of time in my head and I write best when I’m pouring my thoughts out with as little editing as possible. I vastly prefer to be called David in person, however. :-)

#8 What gender were you in your past life?

What sex is easy: Intuition (the only possible way to answer something like this) says I’ve always been male. What gender? That would depend on the culture and language I was born into.

#9 What questions have helped you understand your gender issues? What questions would you ask someone struggling with hers? Feel free to share answers [with Bond], too.

I’d be a dude if I had my

Submitted by Holly Pervocracy (not verified) on Tue, 2010-01-12 09:34.

I’d be a dude if I had my druthers, but weirdly it’s not something I feel strongly about. I’ve accepted femaleness, but… it’s something I’ve felt needed “accepting.” As a small child I hated HATED skirts and long hair and “girl things” and would always roleplay as male superheroes. I went through a long phase as a teenager of dressing and acting masculine, and I only stopped because of social pressure and because most men weren’t attracted to that. I am strongly attracted to men and masculine women and I can’t imagine that changing no matter my gender, so I guess I’d be a mostly gay dude if I were.

Am I a dude? Eh, I’m a masculine woman. I’m often frustrated that it’s neither sexy nor sociable to fully express that (androgyny often seems to be conflated with sexlessness), but it’s how I feel.

I miss having a buzz cut. It felt so good. But it got me so much shit.

[“Androgyny often seems to be conflated with sexlessness.” Got that right, Holly. Which is odd of course considering how frequently androgyny passes in and out of fashion. I get what you mean about identifying across gender but being totally straight. It’s almost as if, sonuvagun, gender and sex were completely different things. Naah, couldn’t be! :-) —fl]

I think now days the

Submitted by Mike (not verified) on Tue, 2010-01-12 12:07.

I think now days the “stereotypical” roles and characteristics associated with gender are so blurred that many people, if asked this set of questions, would answer them very differently than they would have 20 or 30 years ago. I am not at all a feminine person, but in my head, I have several interests that socially are considered to be feminine, but I also have no desire to be a woman – I am rather happy being a guy!!

I was imagining answering these questions when I was 19 or 20 and comparing them to how I would answer now. Although much of the answers are consistent in nature, for me personally, there is more confusion in answering them now since I see them as not really black and white in terms of answers.

Mike

It’s a really interesting set

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2010-01-12 13:27.

It’s a really interesting set of questions, isn’t it? I’m cis female, mostly hetersosexual, and I’m OK with that. But I am very tall and sturdy, very self-sufficient, and I have some hobbies that are considered masculine, which has led me into numerous situations that made me feel like I was really a man. I have found myself saying “Please, let me carry that heavy thing for you. Let me open the door for you.” to smaller, more fragile looking women. Or feeling protective, like I imagine men must feel. And I’ve had social interactions where there were both men and women in the room, and suddenly the conversation takes a turn where everyone is either male or female, and I’ve ended up on the male side of the social divide, not just in my eyes but in other people’s, and suddenly we all realize I’m not, and there’s this pause as everyone shakes their head in confusion and tries to figure out how to recover.

I don’t think I’d choose to change the gender of either my body or my mind. But if I woke up tomorrow in a male body, with no intent or planning of my own, I think I would adapt very easily and comfortably, and I’d probably even be heterosexual.

I think women in our society already cross over that divide a lot more than men do, and with a lot less social disapproval for it. We’ve all internalized the “male gaze” from the media, so women are more comfortable with the idea of evaluating the sex appeal of other women, so it’s a shorter mental leap for us to look at women as possible sex partners; we’re used to thinking those thoughts even if we are heterosexual. Many narratives construct the generic human as a male, and the woman as “other”, so women are used to imagining ourselves as the male protagonist. And we don’t face intense and near-universal disapproval when we do things that are traditionally masculine, the way men do when they take on traditionally feminine roles. The disapproval we do face, we are encouraged to face down; we’re backed by a chorus of “you go girls”. Also, there are some situations where men are considered the grownups and women are lumped in with the children, but the older everyone gets the more comfortable they are seeing themselves as grownups; people are used to the idea that eventually they will be the grownup, the authority, the elder, and on some levels becoming male would feel like a natural extension of the growing-up process.

It’s really interesting that

Submitted by DM (not verified) on Tue, 2010-01-12 20:34.

It’s really interesting that you post this now. I’ve been inching towards fully accepting myself as trans for awhile, and, although I’ve been feeling rather dysphoric for much of my life, I’ve only begun really giving it a genuine consideration recently (as in, not fighting it and maybe doing something about it). Oddly enough, your blog has been the biggest challenge for me because I’m worried that your rule about men not being desirable has conflated itself with my self-esteem, so I worry that I can’t fathom myself as being desirable unless I imagine myself as female.

That said, answering these questions, I seem to end up on the opposite side of the fence as you. If I could change my body, I’d make it female. Same body type, for the most part, just with appropriately altered facial structure and corresponding genitals. There is no question in my mind that I’d rather have been born female, given the choice. If I could mold my personality so I wouldn’t have to “perform” even my limited masculinity, I would still want to be female (although, again, I worry that it’s a lack of imagination/low esteem that fuels such thoughts). I’d probably change my personality somewhat, to be less wry and protected and more physically affectionate (since that’s usually more tolerated in women) but not much. I’m not going housewife or fashion model; I just want to wear skirts, speak differently, and have a vagina (and use it interacting with others who also have them; although maybe some men on the side).

The most illuminating question I guess I’ve asked was when I, somewhat flippantly, asked my friend if he was fond of his penis. He said he was rather attached to it (haaah). Well, he actually said he really liked it. Personally, I definitely feel like I could live without it. I don’t think it’s inferior; I’ve just never found it particularly useful.

And yet, I worry that I’m trapped in all of these gender myths you’re constantly exposing. I read Holly’s blog entry, about oral sex, and I wonder if I’d feel differently if I ever had someone physically desire me the way she describes (my personal experiences have almost all been uncomfortable and anticlimatic, so to speak, when I’m on the receiving end).

And yet, I read Holly’s comment above, where she says that she feels like she wants to be a “masculine woman” despite society’s disapproval, and I think “I don’t want to be a feminine man. I want to be a woman-me.” Gender really is a tricky area. Thanks for the confusion.

(Heh, I really have appreciated your blog and Holly’s since I stumbled on them a few weeks ago. This one hit close to home so I thought I’d stop lurking).

[Hi DM. As long as you feel challenged by Rule #2 and not prohibited or disapproved of I’m pretty psyched. Because, after all, Rule #2 is completely bogus. As Holly (and, oh, a gazillion other women who are oriented towards men for instance) make emphatically clear. Because, after all, both Rules of Desire are primarily made up and perpetuated by men… who then turn around and feel terrifically wounded by… the rule we perpetuate! As for body, identity, and gender image, if you haven’t done so already see if you can find someone with experience counseling and advising people on trans issues. They can help you sort out some of the issues for you, and should be able to help you with next steps. What ever steps those might be. Good luck. And thanks for your kind words. —fl]

The thing about

Submitted by Red (not verified) on Tue, 2010-01-12 22:50. The thing about transsexualism and cis-sexualism that I find extremely hard to get is this: I personally, feel extremely strongly that it is both better to have a vulva than a constructed penis, and equally better to have a penis than a constructed vulva. And to me to not find that point self-evident, is little easier to understand than BIID. A lot of transsexuals would say “Well the reason you find the idea of being surgically changed into a man so horrific is because you identify with your female body so much.” And it’s like “Well not really.” If I was turned into a normal biological male tomorrow, I don’t think having a sex change to be female again would be remotely worth it, and I would rather just be a man. Contrary to popular belief MTF surgery isn’t all that much better than FTM. As for changing one’s body over changing societal constraints. For me it would be about societal constraints every time with any gender role. If I was a man, I think I would have less conflict with accepted gender roles, but also don’t think I’d be particularly conventional male. For one thing from childhood I HATED anything to do with war toys.

I’m as happy with my female

Submitted by Sungold (not verified) on Wed, 2010-01-13 08:33.

I’m as happy with my female body as you appear to be with yours, but that’s precisely why I wouldn’t presume to express horror over other people’s choices.

Not every trans person chooses surgery, by the way. But among those who do, I hear them saying that it is a hard process but it’s the best of their available options. The surgeries are far from perfect, but so are many other surgeries.

Also, most trans people would not choose to be the shock troops for breaking down societal gender constraints. People want to live their lives and for many folks, that means living in one of the two binary genders. I support the choice to identify as genderqueer, but I don’t think that should be the only option.

I think a good comparison is

Submitted by Holly Pervocracy (not verified) on Wed, 2010-01-13 09:24.

I think a good comparison is facial reconstructive surgery. Someone who gets a reconstructed nose after an accident will find that their surgically created nose never really has the appearance or function of a natural one, but they still find it much more comfortable, socially presentable, and in keeping with their self-image than having no nose at all.

Holly and Sungold already

Submitted by DM (not verified) on Wed, 2010-01-13 17:51.

Holly and Sungold already nailed this pretty well. But, on a personal level, I honestly don’t get much pleasure from my penis. It’s difficult for me to enjoy sex (aside from giving women oral sex, which I very much enjoy) just because I don’t like it and it doesn’t feel good. There’s no doubt that my penis is “natural.” But it doesn’t do anything for me. If anything, it inhibits me. If I could embrace being gender queer I would, and I’m still trying to figure all of that out. But, suffice it to say, it’s not about base “utility” at all.

I’ve posted my answers over

Submitted by SnowdropExplodes (not verified) on Wed, 2010-01-13 02:40.

I’ve posted my answers over at my own blog here.

In brief:

I’d ask a genie to give me much less body-hair and facial hair (but I rather like my pubes and my head-hair) so that my body would just stop growing it all the time;

I’d switch physical sex rather than lose the gender dysphoric sense I have, because to lose those parts of me would feel like losing a part of who I am (i.e. I would feel like I was cutting out my female self);

I’d choose a world to be accepting, because I want to wear everything and be safe, changing bodies wouldn’t really help that;

Changing something about myself is kind of interchangeable with the genie question, but I said I would like to be slimmer yet keep my man-boobs – ideally, I would be able to have an “hourglass” figure! So, magic might be needed for this answer too!

When writing or creating avatars in games/online, I am nearly always a female character because it’s the only way I can vicariously experience having that body;

I found it hard to choose a “real name” but I chose two feminine names that are also accepted as male names as possibilities: “Valerie” (which comes from the root “valour”) and “Vivian” (at least partly because my childhood hero was Sir Vivian Richards, the West Indian cricketer, and I always wanted to be like him);

I found it REALLY hard to talk about a past life, because I don’t believe in that sort of thing at all. I instinctively went for “male”, but also had strong leanings towards “misfit/masculine-role female” – e.g. Joan of Arc, Boudicca, the fabled “Pope Joan”.

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