In a perfectly lovely, long post on complications of our casual understanding of the term “casual sex” Lynn Gazis-Sax of Noli Irritare Leones shines a bright spotlight on what’s got to be the biggest source of wariness about it (italic emphasis mine, bold emphasis hers.)
But before I get to sex, I need to talk about not-sex, because that has a lot to do with my visceral reactions to what people call, variously, “casual sex,” “one-night stands,” “hookups,” “flings,” “no strings attached,” etc. In particular, I’m thinking of a particular kind of not-sex: the stream of not particularly welcome overtures, from people not particularly willing to care about my response, that started with the obscene phone call from an apparently adult man when I was just a kid, including the guy who tried to grab me on the street when I was still not quite legal, the shouts in the street from groups of men, the drunk at the swimming pool whose wife kept apologizing for him, etc. Because the thing about these unwelcome, uninvited, boundary pushing approaches is that, though the men making them were very much a minority among the men I met in general, they were a much larger set of the men who were approaching me for no strings sex.
Mild-reflex reservations aside (reflex says it sounds like she’s stereotyping, reflection says not) I think this is the $64,000 problem. There really are at least two types of people interested in “casual sex” and one of those two types is very different from the other one.
Fairly or unfairly, it’s very, very easy to see how involvement, even glancing involvement, with individuals from one group could make you wary about the whole approach.
Lynn really crystalized the difference.
The flip and/or “sex positive” solution is to say stuff like “well, it’s unfair to judge my intentions by the actions of of others.” This is perfectly true — thus my mention of reflex reservations, above.
It’s also, unfortunately, 100% victim-blaming.
So it occurs to me that if you enjoy the idea of casual sex then it’s your responsibility to challenge, aggressively and consistently, the actions and intentions not of the victims but of the perpetrators.
You see a guy cat-calling someone from a window? Hear a guy in a dorm, frat, office, or party talking about spiking the punch with odorless/tasteless PGA, let alone roofies? You hear someone saying “cash, grass, or ass, nobody rides for free?” You see someone with a “shut up and suck” t-shirt? You see someone not taking no for an answer whether out of cluelessness, drunkenness, eagerness, privilege, arrogance, impatience, or barely-suppressed rage at the entire class of people they’re sexually oriented towards? You hear someone running someone else down for their weight, or for their body parts, or their (real or hypothesized) sexual behaviors or proclivities, someone referencing another strictly in terms of their sexual utility instead of their humanity? You see or hear any of that you’re not just seeing the oppression of their intended victim. You’re seeing your own oppression.
By convention you don’t have to do or say anything when you see that kind of oppression. But don’t imagine it has nothing to do with you.




It’s probably not that
Submitted by Nightfall (not verified) on Sun, 2010-01-17 17:01.It’s probably not that relevant to your point, but I would like to mention that there is a third category, which I fall under: Someone who doesn’t really like casual sex all that much, but due to circumstances a “real” relationship is highly impractical, so occasionally engages in it anyway because it’s still better than no sex at all.
[That’s a point I think Lynn misses as well. A lot of the time friends-with-benefits and the even less personable “fuck-buddy” relationships are precisely not ideal. Not least because if they were they wouldn’t be just friends. As long as they’re not exploitative and/or in-denial or, worse, so stylized you can’t even talk to each other about what you ate on the way over, that’s not even a bad thing. Thanks, Nightfall. —fl]
powerfully put. I’d add a
Submitted by Pearl (not verified) on Sun, 2010-01-17 19:04.powerfully put.
I’d add a third set of men. those who don’t actually want sex necessarily but to use it as bait for upgrade packages of power, maneuvers for whatever gain, amusement, reaction, no strings to switch for marriage. that sort of thing.
[“those who don’t actually want sex necessarily…” That too. Thanks, Pearl. —fl]
I am always vary of such
Submitted by Me (not verified) on Mon, 2010-01-18 09:54.I am always vary of such statements like “It’s your problem as well,” or “It’s worse for you too,” or “Don’t imagine it has nothing to do with you.” Actually it has nothing to do with me, it’s not my problem at all and it’s neither worse nor better for me – it’s some other dimension for all I care.
[I believe I prefaced the whole section with “if you enjoy the idea of casual sex then…” So the implication would be that if you don’t care then it’s not your problem. —fl]
I do enjoy casuall sex, just
Submitted by Me (not verified) on Mon, 2010-01-18 13:08.I do enjoy casuall sex, just that I would not want to consider such a thinker my aim. Like, concluding “All people who ever withheld my pay were my employers,” she would want to skip a gainful employment without thinking that all the people who ever paid her were her employers too. Trouble there, good riddance, she might turn a nun and I would not notice.
Not the same thing: A)
Submitted by Lynn Gazis-Sax (not verified) on Tue, 2010-01-19 07:32.Not the same thing: A) gainful employment isn’t optional, and B) I, personally, have had a lot more positive experiences with gainful employment than with casual sex (and only one experience to counter that in which it took months to get my pay).
Not that you, personally, should consider casual sex with someone like me your aim. You’re better off passing me up. Just that we all make judgments about what things we want to pursue, for which we find the benefits outweigh the risks, and it’s not irrational or unreasonably prejudiced to let a large enough set of bad experiences tip your choices in one case, when you wouldn’t in another. (I did say, in the post, that the negative experiences I described affected my own visceral reaction to casual sex, but weren’t an inevitable part of the deal, and might not figure so highly in other people’s experience.)
On the other hand, if there
Submitted by Lynn Gazis-Sax (not verified) on Tue, 2010-01-19 07:54.On the other hand, if there were lots of people withholding pay for supposedly gainful employment, and some people’s experience of working for pay was such that they found more people withholding their pay than actually paying them, then I wouldn’t be surprised if some of those people just gave up and stayed on the dole, and wouldn’t think them irrational because other people, with better experiences of paid employment, kept at it.
“There really are at least
Submitted by Lynn Gazis-Sax (not verified) on Mon, 2010-01-18 12:38.“There really are at least two types of people interested in “casual sex” and one of those two types is very different from the other one.”
I like this way of putting it.