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Feminist* author Courtney Martin, widely respected-by-feminists* blogger at premier feminist* website Feministing* quotes Australian feminist* porn-for-women blogger Ms. Naughty by way of decrying…
...censorship prompted by decidedly non-feminist Australian Senators Barnaby Joyce and Guy Barnett. The censorship in question? Small breasts, which at least in Joyce and Barnett’s understanding of anatomy, are found only on underage girls.
Quoth Martin…
So many jokes come to mind here, but I’m going to leave the analysis to Ms. Naughty on Australia’s weird ban:
Why ban small boobs? I can only assume it stems from paranoia that flat chests somehow stir up the pedophiles. And you only need to mention that “p” word to start a full-scale moral panic in Parliament.
Shall we put such hysteria aside and look at what this ruling is saying to Australian women? Basically, it’s classing a certain normal female body type as obscene. It’s declaring all flat chests to be automatically juvenile, something that should not be viewed by anyone because of a fear that it will stir up “base instincts” in certain people.
“Can the Classification Board be any more insulting or sexist?”
For what it’s worth Barnett and Guy have also pressed the board to outright ban all depictions of female ejaculations and, even weirder, they’re evidently working to restrict photos where inner (but not outer!) labia are visible.
So far anyway the comments at Feministing have been pretty positive in the sense that even those who aren’t totally thrilled by porn still think impositions like this are going too far.
In fact, pretty much around the world people of all stripes are taking a… pretty dim view of the board’s actions.
So I’m going to be contrary and try to give the stupid morons the benefit of the doubt.
Opposition to the small-breasts ruling have been pretty hyperbolic and the analysis has sounded a bit slippery-slope-y so I thought I’d look around and see if I could find the real scoop.
Turns out there’s not a lot. In fact the only credible source of a pro-small-breasts-ban line of reasoning comes from the the Australian anti-censorship site that seems to have broken the original story, SomebodyThingOfTheChildren.com.
According to them the Australian Classification Board says their intention is to ban only images of underage models. Well, and images of small-breasted of-age adults if they might be mistaken for underage models.
In other words even though there’s surprising unanimity in choosing to illustrate articles with photos of actress Keira Knightley, it’s at least somewhat likely magazines and videos depicting her wouldn’t be covered by the ban because she’s known to be an adult.
On the other hand, publications the board evidently has completely banned include 18 U.S. C. 2257-compliant U.S. magazines with titles like Barely Legal, Finally Legal and Purely 18. In other words publications that expressly intend their models to be perceived as of-age adults… and who, since the publications are under perpetual threat of F.B.I. investigation, are verified to be actually of-age adults.
Which means that, yup, even if accusatory articles are hyperbolic the underlying story appears to be accurate: in Australia pornographers are now officially required to discriminate against women with small breasts.
Senators Barnaby Joyce and Guy Barnett, and no-doubt Russ Meyer approve.
\* I’ve been debating a bunch of anti-feminists who claim all feminists are man-hating, hairy-legged, lesbian-separatist, female-supremacist sex haters lately and, at least according to them this post, nor Courtney’s, nor Ms. Naughties can exist, let alone say anything that isn’t straight-up conservative about erotic images of adult men and women. So I thought I’d emphasis the point. Not that it would matter — they’re inclined to see feminism as an evil monolith than Mary Daly was inclined to see men, period, at all. So I thought I’d rub it in.




Okay… That’s just crazy. o_O
Submitted by Shadow (not verified) on Fri, 2010-01-29 03:49.Okay… That’s just crazy. o_O I know more than one flat breasted woman and this is kinda like saying: ‘sorry, but because you don’t have big boobs we don’t want you to be seen in a bikini or other sexy clothes. Um, could you keep covered up on the beach, please?’
What kind of ruling is that? Somebody needs to be told that females are not alike in breast size and bodytype at all and they need to change their rule to ‘underage’ rather than small breasted.
When I first saw this story,
Submitted by SnowdropExplodes (not verified) on Fri, 2010-01-29 12:27.When I first saw this story, I assumed that it HAD to be a spoof – surely no real legislator could be this ignorant and prudish in real life?
I should have known better – it’s not that long ago that the british government were talking about locking age-play/adult baby fetishists because they must also be paedos as well.
Um… they do know that
Submitted by ozymandias (not verified) on Fri, 2010-01-29 13:28.Um… they do know that underage people— even middle schoolers!— can have D cups, right?
[If I was feeling uncharitable I’d suggest they might know that entirely too well. But yeah, that’s an issue. It also doesn’t address those fucking pedophile lolicons since infantilized anime-style women often have very large breasts. $%@!*$ The problem, I’m guessing, isn’t that the Senators are hocking perverts, it’s that it’s extremely difficult to define “porn” in ways that don’t rule out broad swaths of perfectly ordinary society. Thanks, O. —fl]
And they probably think that
Submitted by Nightfall (not verified) on Fri, 2010-01-29 14:25.And they probably think that a large-busted 13-year-old is of no interest to pedophiles, so it’s okay.
[Assuming they’ve got a really limited understanding of the term “pedophile.” Which is entirely possible. Thanks, Nightfall. —fl]
wait, so does that mean there
Submitted by nekobawt (not verified) on Sat, 2010-01-30 06:50.wait, so does that mean there will be a similar ban on pictures of adult men with no chest hair?
You’re probably not going to
Submitted by makomk (not verified) on Sun, 2010-01-31 07:45.You’re probably not going to get any further confirmation than this. Censorship bodies like the ACP tend to be vague when it comes to their actual censorship rules, and indeed they’ve since released a carefully-worded non-denial.
(Also, I’ve no doubt that Courtney Martin is a wonderful feminist writer, but she’s no Sheila Jeffreys, Andrea Dworkin, Catherine MacKinnon, or Julie Bindel, especially in terms of influence, even more especially when it comes to government influence. The reasons for this are probably rather unfeminist, though I don’t know of a good examination of them off-hand.
One curious demonstration of this: go to the Wikipedia page on sex-positive feminism. Now take a look at how many of the people listed as anti-porn feminists in the first paragraph are active and important in feminist activism even now, and compare to the similar list of early sex-positive feminists. Many of the latter aren’t even identified as feminists on their Wiki pages. This matches up with what I’d already noticed informally.)
[I’m pretty sure part of this is that Jeffreys, Dworkin, MacKinnon, or Bindel are best known for their opposition to, in particular, porn and prostitution. That in turn would be in part because they center (or in the case of, say, Dworkin, centered) activist careers around that opposition. So to at least some extent comparing easily-identified “sex positive” feminists to “sex-negative” ones is always going to be a bit out of balance. For instance Courtney Martin, nor many, many other more contemporary feminists wouldn’t show up in such a list because they don’t make promoting “sex-positivity” a significant part of their activism. Thanks, Makomk —fl]