The No Sex Class: Men as the Sex Class and How Asexual Men Are Made the Exception that Proves the Rule

Thu, 2010-06-24 09:27

SlightlyMetaphysical of Asexual curiosities has had enough of a certain near-universal gender stereotype. Even better, he beautifully illustrates how men are socially constructed as the obligate, reflexively sexual “sex class.” Check it out.

“Isn’t it annoying how men are really sex-obsessed?”
“Not all men are sex-obsessed. If you thought about it for a moment, you’d realise that a lot of the men you know aren’t.”
“Give me an example.”
“I’m not.”
“Well, you don’t count. You’re asexual.”

“I think everyone would secretly do anything for sex, they’re just hiding it.”
“Again, not true. I wouldn’t.”
“Yeah, but you don’t count. You’re asexual.”

So what’s with this idea that, because I’m asexual, I’m outside of the normal spectrum of sexuality? I’m statistically written off? I think partly, it’s an example of how people construct a ‘no true Scotsman’ fallacy in their stereotypes, especially of gender. They think that, for example, men like sex, and so think of men who like sex as being most typically men, and then, when they think of the people who they know who are typically male, surprise surprise, they all like sex.

He said it here.

Got that? The notion of men as the sex class is so entrenched that men who don’t fit the profile aren’t even permitted in the data set! It’s like… well, we wanted to do a sexual-interest profile of men. But since including them always screw up our results we discard asexuals before we do our analysis.

I’ll go him one better! In the face of such stereotypes about men, men with low or no libido are going to be extremely unlikely to disclose their actual preferences… and actually rather likely to pretend otherwise. Either way they have very little incentive to buck the stereotype.

How surprising. I go to check

Submitted by SlightlyMetaphysical (not verified) on Fri, 2010-06-25 07:14.

How surprising. I go to check if you’ve written anything interesting, and the first post’s about my blog.

The situations I was writing about are the intersection between two different problems, the problem that some people will do whatever it takes, use however much selective blindness they need, to not challenge their stereotypes, and another problem, one which I’m less able to put into words, but is something to do with asexuals not being seen as part of human sexuality. Some people react best when you’re just an odd little outlier, with no connection to the data set. Maybe they feed into each other; as an asexual, I can’t be counted as a man, because men are highly sexual (and the vicious circle continues).

And then there’s the OTHER vicious circle, the one you mention, where, because men are obviously highly sexual (because people with low libedo aren’t really men), men who aren’t highly sexual are punished (with the removal of their masculinity, no less) for self-reporting accurately, while men who are are rewarded (with more masculinity!). So there’s pressure to say that you’re more highly sexual. Which, in turn, makes men as a whole seem more highly sexual, and makes more people lie. Etc.

Vicious circles are surprisingly difficult to make coherent sentence about, aren’t they?

That’s confirmation bias at

Submitted by Kaija (not verified) on Fri, 2010-06-25 08:01.

That’s confirmation bias at work…it’s a normal human phenomenon, but something to be aware of, especially where it works to shore up stereotypes: any example that fits the stereotype confirms that stereotype but any example that doesn’t fit is thrown out as some sort of exception. A big part of training as a scientist is becoming aware of your own possible confirmation biases and those of others so that you don’t unconsciously pick and choose to fit your preconceived notions or see experimental results through a distorted lens :) A good blurb about that is here: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06/23/confirmation-bias/

P.S. Captcha words: abased He :)

Argh...I screwed up the HTML

Submitted by Kaija (not verified) on Fri, 2010-06-25 08:03.

Argh...I screwed up the HTML up there. Here is one better: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06/23/confirmation-bias/

Incidentally, there's a link at the bottom of that piece to a study done on confirmation bias and the sexual double standard that's pretty interesting and nearly readable (for a journal article!).

“Give me an example.”

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2010-06-25 14:29.

“Give me an example.” http://tinyurl.com/2v2zjaq

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