Cool post by Amanda Hess at the Washington City Paper about geekdom and problematic assumptions behind the construction of alt-masculinity.
You can read the whole thing over there. The comments are interesting too.
One of the commenters brought up the bit about masculinity and different was of “becoming a man.” In a way that didn’t exactly undercut any of Amanda’s points.
Anyway, I was thinking about this on my way home from the store (I had to run out for a watermelon to keep the kids quiet and half and half to help keep me quiet) and I got stuck on this notion that I wanted to try out.
A few days ago when I was walking home with my now-middle-school aged daughter we were talking about growing up and I pointed out how weird it is that she was able to grow about a foot taller in the last year without having to learn how to do it, think about how to do it, or worry if she was “doing it right.” (The same’s equally true of my somewhat older son who grew a whole flipping inch in the last 30 days! But he wasn’t on that walk.) At any given point pretty much the only thing a child has to do to grow is have a functioning metabolism. The metabolism takes care of everything else.
I think that’s the part that gets me about the whole “make me a man” or “becoming a woman” construction. At the end of the day all it takes to do that is have a metabolism. Everything else anyone thinks it takes is social construction.
But that’s not the part I want to try on. That’s just putting my finger on the root of my feeling about biological sex and gender.* Here’s the part I wanted to try on though, based on one of the comments by Kitty on Amanda’s blog.
Geek circles unfailingly reduce me to sex. I’m there for the hot actors, or for the hot male geeks (where are those?). I don’t really understand the science, I just like the romance plots, or I am an Enlightened Female (always a female, never a woman – what’s up with that?) who has wisely chosen to seek the Smart Male for a mate (there tends to be a lot of dickish evolutionary psychology going on). If I object to any of this is it because I am ugly, and they wouldn’t want to fuck me anyway (unless I’m offering).
It seems to me that at the end of the day, for both regular- and alt-masculinity the essence of “becoming a man,” as opposed to just becoming a functional grownup, is “becoming entitled to women.” Or maybe more specifically, “becoming entitled to women in the eyes of other men..”
I think that’s why if you ever hear about someone “becoming a woman” it tends to boil down to “a man put his penis in you” as opposed to some benchmark or milestone achievement of sufficient “femininity.” Otherwise it’s just pretty much a given that if you’re female all you have to do to become a woman is keep up the metabolism business.
So, again, I’m just trying on the idea that unlike the essence of adulthood, of being an adult human male or an adult human female, all forms of “becoming a man” boils down to achieving entitlement to women in the eyes of one’s self or in the eyes of others.
Thoughts?
* Please don’t take anything about my position on metabolism as invalidating anybody’s experience of orientation, sex or sexuality identity, body image, left- or right-handedness, etc. How we grow and what we grow into is sort of the point — it’s just how we actually do grow, not about comparisons to how closely you reach necessarily abstract ideal forms.




This whole “geek masculinity”
Submitted by twg (not verified) on Thu, 2010-07-08 07:55.This whole “geek masculinity” thing is so ridiculous to me, mostly because I so rarely, in my day to day life as a 30 year old adult, see jocks and geeks. I see athletic looking guys with interest and talent in technical fields who also like sci fi, and I see geeky looking guys who love the Sox with all their heart and play softball every night in the summer. God. I’m so tired of these false dichotomies, as if any one person can be boiled down to this one descriptor, as though so called JOCKS are this monolithic Borg entity out to steal all their women. And half the comments on that site boil down to “geeks are better in bed!” Guess what — there are TWO PARTS to the equation of sex, the two people involved, and what works with one partner doesn’t necessarily work with another, anyway. When someone goes on there saying “geeks are more loving and giving in bed and that’s what women want,” they certainly don’t speak for every woman. Certainly not me!
I’m going to stick to my type, athletic intellectual guys who don’t have some chip on their shoulder about performing masculinity.
Sorry, hit a nerve.
(Hilarious: my captcha was “geeks the”)
Sure! My favorite example of
Submitted by figleaf on Thu, 2010-07-08 10:17.Sure! My favorite example of false distinctions is the Alan Turing, the ultimate geek’s geek, who was both a hat-on-fire math genius and a running fanatic. He invented a variation on speed chess he called “roundhouse chess.” The idea was you’d make your move and then literally run around the outside of the house. Your opponent had to make his move before you got back.
On the other hand, that he won nearly every game of roundhouse chess he played suggests there might be something to the jock/geek dichotomy. :-)
My theory is the antagonism has a lot more to do with amplification of differences than of actual differences.
Thanks, TWG,
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Alan Turing was also famously
Submitted by Sungold (not verified) on Fri, 2010-07-09 15:32.Alan Turing was also famously gay. He was arrested for it, prosecuted, and chose chemical castration over a prison sentence. Shortly thereafter, he committed suicide. My personal theory is that not only the public humiliation but also the hormonal meddling threw him into a fatal depression, thought that’s of course speculative.
So I can’t see Alan Turing as anyone who somehow surmounted or transcended social constructions of masculinity. He was a genius. He was also a victim of homophobia. The British government finally apologized about a year ago.
That said, I’m often bewildered by the idea that 1) testosterone levels correlate positively with scientific/technical ability, and 2) sci/tech geeks are not seen as alpha men. This just seems so silly. Then again, I’ve never seriously loved or lusted after a guy who wasn’t bright, so what do I know?
(Testing your comment tracking thingamajig, figleaf – thanks!)
I recently read a collection
Submitted by Sasha (not verified) on Thu, 2010-07-08 09:03.I recently read a collection of work by Erik Erikson, the famous American psychologist. Towards the end of the book, there’s an essay which was originally given as a speech before students in India, and in it Erikson speaks approvingly about what he calls the “unimpaired femininity” of the modern women of India as opposed to the modern women of the west. (And I cringed, for several reasons.)
But it struck me as I read this essay that, in several earlier pieces collected in this same volume, from his book on the young Martin Luther and another on Gandhi, Erikson had spoken on multiple occasions, very approvingly, about both of these men’s deliberate adoption of “feminine” qualities: Luther’s desire to enter Erikson’s ‘generative’ stage of life, which Luther specifically speaks of in terms of being ‘pregnant’ with an idea; what Erikson describes as Gandhi’s desire to become perfectly motherly; etc. But neither of these men’s efforts does Erikson describe as endangering or ‘impairing’ the masculinity of the persons in question; disapproval or even ambivalence are not so much as vaguely implied—both men are in Erikson’s mind trailblazers and geniuses who expanded human (male) capacities and opened new realms of possibility to succeeding generations (of men). Indeed, Erikson insisted that these “feminine” qualities were simply “human” qualities, that any man who was fully human might be expected to develop these qualities too—there was nothing unmanly about it, of course not! So it would seem that Erikson’s idea of masculinity could appropriate to itself (a Marxist might say something here about ‘colonizing’ or ‘primitive accumulation’) at least some qualities of the ‘feminine’ without being diminished in its essence, while his idea of femininity couldn’t do the reverse without being hopelessly compromised.
On the other hand, there’s Peter Brown’s work on sexuality in late antiquity, The Body and Society, which I also recently finished, which talks about how the meaning given to sex changed from a predominantly ‘pagan’ to a predominantly Christian culture. The ancient Romans’ idea of women was, more or less, that a woman was an incomplete or failed man. Women in the classical Roman imagination were simply human beings without enough vital energy in their bodies to make them fully male (or simply, fully human). Hence, men who didn’t constantly demonstrate their vitality and command of themselves and others through self-denial, self-discipline, and various acts of sanctioned violence, were always in danger of being considered not fully male either. The masculine was an idea that stood at the summit of a slippery slope, the female was simply thought of as its lack. And so at that time in history, there was a constant danger of being seen as ‘impaired’ in your masculinity, and no positive idea of ‘the feminine’ at all. (Kierkegaard in Either/Or refers to the difference between love in antiquity and love in the present (his present) day as that between loving ‘the beautiful individual’, and loving ‘the feminine’—hence his version of the Symposium in Stages on Life’s Way turns not on the question of love in general, but of women in particular.)
I’m sure there is some sort of comprehensive history of ‘the construction of the feminine’/‘the construction of the masculine’ out there somewhere; there’s probably a whole field of study and a whole canon of relevant works on the subject, tracing the history of both ideas. But it strikes me at least at a first glance, not having specifically studied the subject, that at present, what ‘male’ is is still allowed to be far broader, more flexible, to change and to have changed with history—without somehow being thought in danger of evaporating into thin air or vanishing altogether—in a way that ‘female’ isn’t.
Hi Sasha, Yeah, I think the
Submitted by figleaf on Thu, 2010-07-08 10:04.Hi Sasha,
Yeah, I think the thing that drives me the craziest about the whole gender shebang is this idea that to be a man is to be so fucking fragile and tenuous that the slightest slip or compromise will destroy manhood forever. What’s to admire about a conception that’s so… well… snivelingly wimpy as that?
Not to make too much of other gender stereotypes but it used to be that comedians and cartoonists would get a lot of mileage out of 50’s suburbanite divas who’d yell at their husbands, often with thick regional accents, “Don’t kiss me and don’t run your fingers through my hair either! I’ve spent hours making myself irresistible!” A conception of fragile masculinity’s like that — a source of misery and contempt for both onlookers and participants.
Thanks!
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Ooo, that makes me crazy too
Submitted by twg (not verified) on Thu, 2010-07-08 13:29.Ooo, that makes me crazy too — like, I have to tiptoe around the fragile little man-ego because it makes him weak to feel like I don’t need him … what? How does that make one “masculine” at all?
Kind of the fatal flaw in the
Submitted by figleaf on Thu, 2010-07-08 13:52.Kind of the fatal flaw in the whole “bow down to my manly superiority” argument, eh?
Weirdly, I can feel threatened three ways from Sunday, about all sorts of things from the environment to my bank balance to where I’m going to pick up my next contract to how to throw a ball without ever worrying that my pee-pee will somehow fall off if I get too close to my partner’s purse. :-)
Thanks, TWG!
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I think it boils down to a
Submitted by Red (not verified) on Thu, 2010-07-08 22:11.I think it boils down to a culture that conflates general human desire for things like worthiness, self respect, self efficacy, and so on with “manhood”.
“conflates general human
Submitted by figleaf on Fri, 2010-07-09 16:28.“conflates general human desire… with ‘manhood’”
Yeah, that’s the silly part. I’ve seen it a couple of places — what guys are generally describing are qualities that are… kind of universal.
Thanks, Red.
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Hmm, in some western
Submitted by f (not verified) on Fri, 2010-07-09 04:13.Hmm, in some western cultures, ‘becoming a woman’ is having your first period. Or at least that’s how my mother interpreted it in my case (we’re French). Is it not the case at all in English?
Yeah, that was my personal
Submitted by Sungold (not verified) on Fri, 2010-07-09 15:39.Yeah, that was my personal experience, but I don’t know if it’s already anachronistic. My father was in the hospital for several months when I had my first period. It was a traumatic thing, with horrific cramps, and I felt traumatized. Afterward, I overheard my mom telling my dad over the phone that I had “become a woman.” I was mortified and traumatized again. The kind of relationship I had with my dad just wouldn’t accommodate that sort of information, and I felt it was non of his business. It didn’t help that I was only 11, which in the mid-1970s was still very young. (I was the first in my school class to “become a woman.”)
Well, for me it was just 11
Submitted by f (not verified) on Mon, 2010-07-12 05:51.Well, for me it was just 11 years ago, but again, it’s not exactly the same culture, I guess.
I have dated a lot of geeks.
Submitted by Mirri (not verified) on Fri, 2010-07-09 15:43.I have dated a lot of geeks. I have met a lot of geeks that behaved like this. I never dated a geek that behaved like this. To be honest, many geeks are elitist and cliquish to everyone outside their circle of a forum/chatroom/etcetera – I don’t think it just pertains to men being meh to women.