A staffer at TMZ Sports says
A woman has come forward in the Lawrence Taylor case to say the NFL legend did not have sex with the 16-year-old girl he is accused of raping.
The witness — a 23-year-old stripper who says she was living with the 16-year-old girl and her alleged pimp at the time — gave a sworn statement to investigators from the defense team, saying she was waiting outside the hotel at the time of the alleged incident. According to the AP, the woman says the teenager returned to the car with $300 in cash and said, “It was weird … we didn’t even have sex.”
According to another source, nfl.fanhouse.com, the defense witness claims “Taylor rubbed himself on the girl, but they did not have sex.” Which, I guess, is supposed to make it all better.
At the end of the day, though, what really matters… what the case boils down to… what’s wrong with the entire picture can be summed up in something else the woman is reported to have been concerned about. Again from the nfl.fanhouse newswire
The woman said in her statement that she did not come forward initially because she worried she would get in trouble because she knew the girl was underage.
Um. Yeah. She was living with this 51-year-old pimp and a 16-year-old girl she knew he was pimping, she accompanied the girl and the pimp to a customer’s hotel room and stood outside waiting while an act of teen prostitution took place. If it wasn’t for the evident fact that the word “prostitution” magically washes away all traces of “statutory rape,” “sexual assault of a child,” “sex offender registry,” “corruption of a minor,” and every other offense prosecutors, judges, and juries are usually (and, I think, correctly) willing to throw at people who have sex with minors, the woman had every reason to worry she’d get in trouble.
For that matter I’m really inclined to question (but certainly not challenge) the rape charges leveled against Taylor in the first place. It’s extremely unusual for prosecutors to charge johns with sexual assault… even when the johns commit violent assault against adult sex workers rather than statutory sexual assault against minor ones.
I’m not knocking their decision because I think it’s a really good idea to hold johns accountable for not meticulously verifying the age of the sex workers they hire. (Taylor claims he asked and the girl told him she was 19. Which doesn’t wash in my book — if she’d said she was Mother Theresa he’d probably have asked to see her ID so…)
But it’s so unusual I’m curious about the particulars that led to this, well, particular charge being brought.
Anyway, bottom line here is that a) yes, whatever one can say about voluntary, entrepreneurial sex work there are also sex workers who are conscripted and coerced, sometimes by violence, b) yes, whatever one can say about consenting adults we do not say the same thing about minors, even consenting ones, and c) while it’s laudable that prosecutors appear to be charging Lawrence with rape and the pimp with sex trafficking they’re still failing to bring with perfectly-accurate and well-deserved charges against them for crimes that would put them on sex-offender registries for life.
It’s perfectly possible to support legalizing the sale and purchase of sexual services from autonomous, uncoerced adults (as I am, even though I’m not terrifically enthusiastic about it) while also supporting draconian measures against the sale or purchase of sexual access to the bodies of those who are conscripted, coerced, trafficked, or otherwise unable to freely and legally consent.
It’s a mistake to imagine that rape is the right word for voluntary commercial sexual services. It’s an even bigger mistake to imagine any other word will do for those who are coerced into sexual servitude.
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The problem with this is that
Submitted by Nightfall (not verified) on Sun, 2010-07-18 17:29.The problem with this is that smart people who regularly commit minor crimes don’t keep any ID on themselves. Or much less often, use a fake ID. That way, if caught they can just lie about their identity, and the police usually won’t bother to confirm it. Then they can just spend a few days or weeks in jail and have it not go on their record (or at least, not on any record which will turn up in a background check or can easily be verified as being themselves). And prostitutes who are not smart enough to not keep ID on themselves would probably still often suspect that asking for ID = police. And johns who make the effort to go hunting for age-verifiable prostitutes can still (albeit rarely) be taken in by underage ones with fake IDs, and due to turning down most of the “legit” ones are far more likely to run into a sting. In short, as long as prostitution remains illegal, verifying age would probably be hideously impractical.
I am curious, how would you
Submitted by fiveofnine (not verified) on Mon, 2010-07-19 04:46.I am curious, how would you tell the difference between a 16 and 19 year old unless you asked or specified this is what you wanted?
I once had someone think I was 18 when I was 13, because I was fully developed and could carry on a decent conversation with adults. This was not in a sexual context.
One nitpick: I can’t picture
Submitted by Holly Pervocracy (not verified) on Mon, 2010-07-19 13:03.One nitpick: I can’t picture a sex worker showing her ID, with her real name and address and everything, to a john. That seems like it would be taking a risk on her part, either that he’s a cop or will rat her to the cops, or that he’s a creepy stalker and will use any information he gets to harass her.
I can understand perfectly
Submitted by figleaf on Mon, 2010-07-19 15:43.I can understand perfectly why in the current legal environment johns would be reluctant to ask for ID. Or, for that matter, to show ID. All the more reason why I think prostitution ought to be legal.
In the ordinary course of events, however, one doesn’t need ID to guess someone’s age pretty accurately. Especially if failing to do risks a lifetime membership on the sex-offender registry.
I’m just tired of this perpetual bullshit “but she said she was old enough” excuse.
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I have to disagree with you
Submitted by Thaddeus (not verified) on Wed, 2010-07-21 01:07.I have to disagree with you on this one, Fig, based on loooooooong hours in redlight districts with my wife trying to guess sex worker’s ages.
Yes, there are some obvious minors, but 16-22 is a very hard age bracket to pick apart, especially when one takes into consideration make-up, lighting conditions, etc.
This is so notoriously the case that Ana and I often joke about NGO workers and abolitionists who seem to have an infallible age monitor. They’ll say crap likr “There are hundreds of minors selling sex in Rio” and we’ll always come back with “Alright, takes us to them. Show us.” When we get there, one of two things happen: they either start pointing up young women more-or-less at random as “probable minors” or (more likely) they tell us “They’re not here tonight, but last night they were all over the place”.
No, it’s not easy telling a minor from a non-minor without ID, especially when every sex worker on the strip is trying her best to look 18.
As of April 2010 in England,
Submitted by FD (not verified) on Tue, 2010-07-20 16:28.As of April 2010 in England, using, paying for, agreeing to pay for or take in trade, the services of a prostitute (either gender) under 18 (the normal age of consent is 16), or (as above) the services of a prostitute who has been forced, threatened, or otherwise coerced, (coercing includes emotional or psychological pressure) is a strict liability offence. On other words, doesn’t matter if they knew, didn’t know, or tried to find out first – they’re still guilty.
Is this the kind of legislation you might be in favour of? As far as I’m aware, there have not been any convictions so far under the new laws, although it’s very early days yet.
“Coercion” worries me there.
Submitted by Thaddeus (not verified) on Wed, 2010-07-21 01:09.“Coercion” worries me there. What is “emotional coercion”, exactly? Especially since certain sections of the abolitionist crowd considers economics themselves to be a form of coercion.
Hi Thaddeus, I’m not sure
Submitted by figleaf on Thu, 2010-07-22 05:26.Hi Thaddeus,
I’m not sure how economic “coercion” would be confused with emotional. Emotional coercion is fairly common with pimps who operate on the lines of “if you really love me you’d…” or “nobody else will have you now…”
As for the abolition crowd I might think that having an entire industry revolving around paying people for sex is almost as peculiar as a similar industry for paying someone to eat dinner or run track with you it’s even more peculiar that so many people think the best solution to the problems besetting sex work is to abolish it. Especially since several thousand years of history suggests efforts to abolish it isn’t going to work without also “abolishing” the idea that heterosexuality itself should be transactional.
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Some very influential women’s
Submitted by makomk (not verified) on Fri, 2010-08-20 03:53.Some very influential women’s organisations were deeply, deeply unhappy that the definition was this narrow. The original definition – which was the one they wanted – covered using the services of any prostitute “controlled for gain”. This was broad enough that it could potentially include women like Belle de Jour (who you may recall is the standard example of an evil “happy hooker” that’s distracting from the treatment of real prostituted women by failing to be ill-treated enough) and anyone else who worked through an agency.
I’m a little disgusted by a
Submitted by RD (not verified) on Wed, 2010-07-21 19:41.I’m a little disgusted by a lot of things here but especially by your view on the role of the 23-year-old. She was living with the pimp, probably worked for him, probably was dependent on him, and probably came into that situation in similar circumstances (if not at the same or younger age) as the 16-year-old. I’m not saying she acted as morally as she possibly could but it is hard to say what you might do when you are under someone else’s control as completely as that.
As for carrying ID it can mean being released on your own recognizance rather than being held in jail. It really depends on the situation and where you are located whether that is a good idea or not.
Hi RD, I agree it’s
Submitted by figleaf on Thu, 2010-07-22 05:14.Hi RD,
I agree it’s disgusting on a number of levels. First, it’s disgusting that prostitution is illegal. Second, it’s disgusting because it’s illegal there get to be pimps in the first place — otherwise they could be replaced with a cell-phone, an inexpensive answering or booking service or website, 911 on speed-dial, and a SWOP membership. It’s disgusting that since it’s illegal the 2nd woman wasn’t and isn’t able to tell the truth, that she wasn’t able to come forward immediately to clarify the situation immediately as she saw it, that (as you suggest) in coming forward she’s still very likely just doing what her pimp tells her, that she was unable to just call the fucking cops when her pimp started pimping a sixteen-year-old girl, and finally that she was unable to go to the police and/or social services and/or a sympathetic and supportive organization like SWOP when he started pimping her when she was underage.
It’s also disgusting that since it’s illegal neither customers nor sex workers can use the same verification methods that bartenders, car-rental agencies, and summer camps can to make sure those under age are neither being exploited or abused. (In terms of privacy rights, every bartender gets to see your ID yet no bartender will track, record, or disclose a customer’s identity. Since I think sex work should be no more regulated than bar-tending, no more controversial, and just as legal, I don’t think carding would be a big deal either.)
And finally, my real point here is that it should be no more legal for an adult to have sex with an underage sex worker (willing or conscripted) than with any other underage person. One can quibble about what that age should be, but it should be the same age! Which presently it’s not, with the result that for the most part there are zero additional consequences for customers and pimps (but not, one notices, the sex workers themselves) for sex with those who are underage.
Obviously until it’s legal you’re going to see situations almost exactly like this, where pimps can operate with near-impunity and sex-worker safety is practically an afterthought. But that’s gotta change. Meanwhile, especially under current circumstances, in workplace-safety terms sex work is considerably more dangerous than operating heavy equipment and therefore employing underage sex-workers should be treated at least as harshly as employing, say, underage steel workers or crane operators.
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