Proposition 8 Defenders and the No-Sex Class Paradigm

Thu, 2010-08-19 16:16

AlwaysArousedGirl has a nice catch related to the real interest ‘wingers have in keeping marriage heterosexual. This time it’s Sam Schulman writing in the Christian Science Monitor, even though he’s more often found in rabidly conservative and neocon rags like The Weekly Standard, the Wall St. Journal, Commentary, and Orthodoxy Today.

Marriage is not about couples or lovers – it’s about the physical and moral integrity of women. When a woman’s sexuality is involved, human communities must deal with a malign force that an individual woman and her family cannot control or protect.

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Marriage is a necessary defense of a woman’s sexuality and her human liberty from determined assault by men who would turn her into a slave, a concubine – something less than fully human. Human communities need to give women some additional degree of protection – through law, custom, religious decree, or sacrament…

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Modern marriage is only the least worst version of marriage that has emerged from all this – but it is still necessary for women. What protects women, ultimately, is that marriage laws and customs confer upon her independence something extra – dignity, protection, sacredness – that others must respect.

Read the quote in context here.

This guy Schulman is a real piece of work when it comes to understanding the dominant paradigm’s insistence on the bogus Two Rules of Desire and the whole general ideology of women as the “no-sex” class.

Writing more confidently in Orthodoxy Today, for a readership he knows to be more conservative than the relatively liberal Christian Science Monitor he wrote

...marriage benefits women, again not just in law but essentially. A woman can control who is the father of her children only insofar as there is a civil and private order that protects her from rape; marriage is the bulwark of that order. The 1960’s feminists had the right idea: the essential thing for a woman is to control her own body. But they were wrong that this is what abortion is for; it is, rather, what marriage is for. It is humanity’s way of enabling a woman to control her own body and to know (if she cares to) who is the father of her children.

Yes, marriage tends to regulate or channel the sexual appetite of men, and this is undoubtedly a good thing for women. But it is not the ultimate good. A husband, no matter how unfaithful, cannot introduce a child who is not his wife’s own into a marriage without her knowledge; she alone has the power to do such a thing. For a woman, the fundamental advantage of marriage is thus not to regulate her husband but to empower herself—to regulate who has access to her person, and to marshal the resources of her husband and of the wider community to help her raise her child­ren.

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Every human relationship can be described as an enslavement, but for women the alternative to marriage is a much worse enslavement — which is why marriage, for women, is often associated as much with sexual freedom as with sexual constraint. In the traditional Roman Catholic cultures of the Mediterranean and South America, where virginity is fiercely protected and adolescent girls are hardly permitted to “date,” marriage gives a woman the double luxury of controlling her sexuality and, if she wishes, extending it.

He said it here.

It gets worse, by the way. You know how everyone goes around saying it’s radical feminists who think all heterosexual sex is rape? Check out Schulman (who incorrectly identifies the very conservative feminist Catharine Mackinnon as a radical feminist.)

Radical feminists were right, to an extent, in insisting that men’s and women’s sexuality is so different as to be inimical. Catharine MacKinnon has proclaimed that in a “patriarchal” society, all sexual intercourse is rape. Repellent as her view is, it is formed around a kernel of truth. There is something inherently violative about sexual intercourse—and there is something dangerous about being a woman in a sexual relationship with a man to whom she is not yet married. Among the now-aging feminists of my generation, no less than among their mothers, such a woman is commonly thought to be a victim.

Marriage is a sign that the ever-so-slight violation that is involved in a heterosexual relationship has been sanctioned by some recognized authority.

Call me a radical here but I’m… pretty sure marriage is not MacKinnon’s preferred solution to the problem of heterosexuality-as-rape (to the limited extent even she sees it that way.) I’m even more sure her solution does not include further extending “fiercely protecting” women’s virginity and “hardly permit[ting] them to ‘date.’”

In fact, call me a real radical here but I’m… pretty certain that no matter how conservative, and no matter how genuinely leery of sex she might be, and even no matter how superficially similar the outlines of her strategies might be to Schulman’s and those of his ilk, MacKinnon’s solution is precisely antithetical to his: the way to give women agency, sexual and otherwise, is to give them agency, not to immure them in deep and often outright murderous traditions that are merely less worse than enslavement… not to construct them into traps that are at best “ever-so-slight violations” of their autonomy, their integrity, and their right to be independent human beings who’s decisions are to be respected.

And finally, what exactly do Schulman and his kind think of men that they imagine this enslavement of women to be better, safer, more dignified, more sacred at the hands of tradition than at the “mercy” of the monsters they imagine men to be? Sweet Mother of Pearl! And these are the folks who imagine that feminists hate men!

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The remaining points against Schulman have been better expressed by others but they bear repeating

  • The most dangerous place for a woman is in her home.
  • Women are most likely to be assaulted, battered, or murdered in their homes.
  • Women are most likely to be assaulted, battered, or murdered by a husband, domestic partner, or male family member.

and finally

  • If the goal of traditional marriage really was the protection of women from men rather than the protection of their property value* as exchanged between men then, as AAG so nicely puts it, women would be far better off marrying 80-pound Rotweiler/pit-bull-mix attack dogs. Or as one of her commenters put it, they could marry their cans of pepper spray. Or as Holly Pervocracy would probably say, a handgun. (Although as Holly also points out, one rarely has one’s handgun, well, handy when you tend to need them most: when around male friends, dates, and partners. Just sayin’)

But of course the traditional institutions of marriage were never meant for the protection of women. And the extent it ever was necessary, the advent of classical-liberal conservative institutions as manifested in the notions of, say, rule of law founded on principles of individual rights held self-evident in our and other constitutions has made it less so.

Sheesh! Where do they get these guys? Who’d want to marry one of them?

Oh, right. And at the end of the day, of course, Schulman says (after claiming, naturally, that some of his best friends are gay) marriage must remain forbidden to same-sex couples because if you let just anybody get married then the special role marriage carves out for women might be lost.

He says it as if that were a bad thing.

* As in “thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife, nor his house, nor his cattle, nor his man servant nor maid servant, nor anything else that is thy neighbor’s.”

Let’s see, if all that were

Submitted by Nightfall (not verified) on Thu, 2010-08-19 22:14.

Let’s see, if all that were true it would seem like the best thing for a woman to do would be to get into a group marriage with a few other women and pay men for their sperm. Unless you also assume that women’s needs are ultimately trivial compared to men’s and marriage exists solely to insure that women don’t get absolutely nothing.

Oh my, I wonder what the

Submitted by schnee (not verified) on Fri, 2010-08-20 13:56.

Oh my, I wonder what the Mamma Grizzlies would say about this. And I don’t very much care what they’d have to say.

Good fracking grief. This is so tortured it’s unreal. So, basically, instead of creating a society where women are not just assumed, from language upwards, to be a sub-set of men and therefore available to be abused, we must enslave them to protect them from rape and enslavement. And that’s convenient, because the other set of people we dislike, anyone who isn’t male and straight, oh, and off the record, sometimes we don’t like non-whites, but let’s not go there, also get sidelined.

And the thing is, and I have almost commented a couple of times on posts about religion, these people claim to be Christians. What is it they don’t understand about the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth? The message was really rather clear I thought. Inclusion. Everyone, but everyone is equal in the sight of God, women, men, gentiles, people who dress rather oddly, everyone. Oh and God – God isn’t one of those sorts of Supreme Beings who sits around fretting about who is having sex with whom, because built into the programme that is creation, is free will, and one of the unfortunate by-products of that is bigotry, so bigots can sit and fret about the stuff that should, by rights, mean that their own stomach acid consumes them, and God can get on with creating and forgiving, oh and LOVING and stuff.

Yeah, Christians do feel that

Submitted by figleaf on Fri, 2010-08-20 14:21.

Yeah, Christians do feel that way though Schulman might also be Jewish. That’s just a guess based on his article in Orthodoxy Today. But he could also be Moslem, since like cultures that have adopted Christianity and Judaism, cultures that have adopted Islam also tend to think of women as property. But he could also be from a culture that’s adopted Hindu, or Zoroastran, or Shinto, or Buddhist, or Sikh, or most forms of animism, or Jainism, or non-woo-woo, non-neo, original Paganism, or Ancient Egyptian, Greek or Roman, Aztec, and Incan polytheism, or…

Point being that there’s something that predates religion and, having predated it, domination of women is incorporated into virtually all creation stories and/or founding documents. Including, oddly, the religions that tend to put it right there pretty much in black and white that we’re all one, we’re all equal in the eyes of god(s), etc.

Anyway, the good news I think is that once we change the fundamental notion that women are people not things, theology will follow. And be much the better for it.

Thanks, Schnee.

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Oh, very good point Figleaf,

Submitted by schnee (not verified) on Sun, 2010-08-22 14:00.

Oh, very good point Figleaf, just because he’s writing in a publication with Christian in the title doesn’t make him one and frankly, his name could certainly indicate otherwise.

And you made me think of something else by saying that theology would hopefully follow public understanding. The Vancouver School of Theology is a leader in Inclusive Language, and, whilst language always underpins and reflects attitude and thought, for a THEOLOGY college to promote it is even more progressive, because of the implications for how we name God, which in turn reflects how we think about God and that if we rid ourselves of the notion of a male God, then we rid ourselves of the notion of the most fundamental inequality between women and men. (And of course on which, in ‘the West’, our law and moral codes are based on).

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