The Patriarchy Evidently Just Can't Stand the Way Women's Autonomy and Economic Independence Increases Men's Freedom

M'kay so you want a direct example of how anti-feminists a) hate men and b) believe the only role women should have in society is as bait for men? Matthew Yglesias has the goods.  Emphasis mine.

This put me in mind of Monica Potts’ review of Kay Hymowitz:

“Before [today], the fact is that primarily, a 20-year-old woman would have been a wife and a mother,” author Kay Hymowitz told the crowd of about 100 at the Manhattan Institute in New York City. Men would have been mowing lawns and changing the oil in their family sedans instead of playing video games and watching television.

Hymowitz’s argument, essentially, is that not only has feminism opened up new doors of opportunity to women, but it’s helped contribute to the growth of a society in which young men are less crushed down with family and household obligations and are spending more time enjoying themselves. Except she means this as a bad thing! In both cases the conservative conceit seems to be that a decline in human suffering is a bad thing because it leads to a corresponding decline in admirable anti-suffering effort. John Holbo memorably dubbed this Donner Party Conservatism.

Source: Matthew Yglesias

Got that?  Conservatives just fucking hate it when women have political and social autonomy, that they're approaching economic parity, that thanks to contraceptives, Plan B, and abortion they can have children when they want to and still have sex when they don't, and most importantly, that women can have men in their lives because they want men in their lives and not because they'll starve if they don't offer their asses to someone who'll support and "protect" them.

And why do conservatives hate women with social, economic, reproductive, and sexual autonomy?

Because with all that freedom they're not obliged to drag men down into early marriage, into greater responsibility, into ground down death-of-a-salesman lifespans.  Which means that men too have new freedom.

And before anyone goes all work-ethic angst-y about men "slacking off" I just want to point out that the ex anti baseline was... men working twice as hard as necessary in order to support an able-bodied partner who was effectively forbidden to work at all! In other words men are only "slacking off" relative to the Willie Lomans of conservative findom fetishists.  Fuck them!

Anyway, I think that really nicely illustrates how

  • Men benefit not only indirectly but directly from feminism
  • How conservatism views women primarily as bait to use to dominate and control men
  • How neither women or men are intended to benefit from the system of patriarchy
  • Why men ought to have as vested an interest in the outcome of feminism as women do
  • Why men should direct their ire not at feminism but the fucking assholes who want to use women to control men.

And finally,

  • How it's patriarchy rather than feminism that genuinely, truly, madly, and deeply hates and fears men.

I mean seriously! What decent person... what person with any hint of integrity or honor... what person in his or her right mind thinks the real reason women should be kept barefoot, pregnant, and chained to the stove is to keep men's noses chained to the grindstone?!?!?

Oh, and it's not just Hymowitz who blames women for men's happiness.  Yglesias begins his post with news that the American Enterprise Institute just hosted a whole fucking conference on the insufficient misery suffered by millions of American men and women.

Fuck them and the horse they rode up on!

Via Amanda Marcotte, who's own post excoriating the Right's viscious assault on men's happiness and freedom is called The War on Joy.

Update: But see also Echidne who catches conservative British cabinet minister David Willets being a little more honest: all those feminists are making upward mobility more difficult for men.


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wait, so if we're not

Submitted by nekobawt (not verified) on Wed, 2011-04-06 02:05.

wait, so if we're not suffering, we're not "trying not to suffer"? and that's...a bad thing? but doesn't that mean we're doing something right? gah i'm confused.

by the way, figleaf, is there any way you can set up your blog so there's a "previous post" and "next post" option somewhere on a given post? i've given up on trying to read your archives since you re-organized, and i do love your brain... (not in any weird kind of zombie way, of course! i just like the way you think. (no, really.))

Of course, she completely

Submitted by ozymandias (not verified) on Wed, 2011-04-06 07:20.

Of course, she completely ignores the presence of video-game-playing TV-watching slacker women. Which... is kind of disturbing, because in my experience every slacker boy has a slacker girl right next to him asking him to pass the bong.

I would so not attribute

Submitted by Sungold (not verified) on Wed, 2011-04-06 21:22.

I would so not attribute 20something men with video games to feminism. I'd chalk them up to the tentacular reach of late capitalism.

These guys aren't just a hollywood trope; they are not wholly embodied by Seth Roben. They are real. I can say that and still shout out to Kay Hym.: "The guys might exist, but you CANNOT blame them on the gals!"

Hi Sungold, I think there's

Submitted by figleaf on Wed, 2011-04-06 22:40.

Hi Sungold,

I think there's a difference between women outright creating slacker gamers on the one hand (why Hymowitz is saying) and women creating *space* for them to be slack in.  Or, to possibly synthesize our positions, for creating a space where the tentacles of capitalism can have their way with men.

That said I don't necessarily agree with the assertion that men are all that much more slacker-y than they were back in the golden days of yore.  The panicked descriptions of men that led to the creation of "muscular Christianity" in the 1800s don't seem all that different from similar complaints today.  My great grandfather's biography, letters, and diaries all hint at what would certainly pass for a dissolute youth (smoking opium in college being, in a way, the least of his sins of commission.)  But!  Like an awful lot of other men throughout history, going so far back that Augustine was little more than a pit stop, my grandfather came into his own some time in his mid 20s and went on to become, among other things, a minister, educator, and women's-college president.

I'm not saying Halo, Worlds of Warcraft, and Mindcraft won't ultimately prevail this time.  But even if that comes to pass and men fail to step up, at least young women will no longer face the penury and "old maid" status that was their lot in my grandfather's day.

 

So anyway, I'm not saying "empowered women make young men to slack off."

Thanks!

figleaf

Gail Beiderman's book on

Submitted by Thaddeus Gregory Blanchette (not verified) on Thu, 2011-04-07 08:01.

Gail Beiderman's book on masculinity and empire is a great corrective to anyone who thinks that fears of diminuishing masculinity are somehow new or linked to feminism. Seems about every 100 years or so, masculinity needs to be reinvented because it's threatened.

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