Social Expectation Bias: Doesn't Whether You Come "Too Soon" Depend a Lot on When Your Partner Does?

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So over at Em & Lo's site a woman wrote for advice saying

Dear Em & Lo,

I’m an 18-year-old girl/woman and I want to be more sexually active, but every time I have sex with my boyfriend I orgasm super quickly (like in less than 5 minutes) and it feels weird to keep going. What should I do? I really want to keep up with my boyfriend but he says he could go for hours but I can only last for minutes.

– Early Bird

She said it here

First of all, if by “sex” Early Bird means “intercourse” then I don’t think five minutes before she has an orgasm is all that short a time. Taking admittedly great liberties with averages, average hetero intercourse lasts a little more than five minutes, and 25% of women say they always have (some kind of) orgasms from intercourse (and more say they usually or often do.) If Early Bird's partner could only go two minutes instead of hours then ta-da, suddenly she'd suddenly be “frigid!”

That said…

I think the feeling of weirdness or discomfort with continued sex after orgasm is more common than a lot of women let on. Although it’s commonly considered a “male” thing, plenty of women are “one and done” when it comes to orgasms. And of those I’d say while about half are ready to continue if their partner wants to, quite a few others are ready shift gears and start talking about their day, to go to sleep, to start thinking about breakfast, and so on.

And, again while it’s usually called a “male” attribute, a subset of those women also come both easily and early. Which, if their partners are still in the mood, can leave them feeling a little hung out to try. Even though that hung-out-to-dry feeling is typically considered a “female” attribute.

Call me a rebel here but I think it’s even less likely that women this happens to are going to disclose being “premature ejaculators” than men are. First because it’s a little embarrassing. Second because a) “everybody knows” orgasms are hard for women, b) “everybody knows” women can always have another orgasm (in contradiction to item #1), and c) “everybody knows” sex for women is about “feeling close” rather than horny so continuing sex after orgasm without feeling weird is supposed to be perfectly “natural.”

This is why I’m so happy Early Bird has piped up about her experience. She’s not alone! It can be a problem! It doesn’t feel lucky, either for her or her partners, or for women like her or their partners.

The good news is that while the underlying mechanisms are probably a little different, some of the techniques men are taught to deal with premature orgasms might work for you. And no, I don’t mean cliches like thinking of baseball statistics or imagining out-of-shape in-laws naked. I mean the real things like communication, acknowledgement, pacing, practicing “edging” by yourself and then later with a partner, and (radical though it might sound) doing “foreplay” to get him up to speed.

Which leads me to return to my first thought: how many more women would find themselves in Early Bird’s shoes if more men learned how to last more than 3-5 minutes? I say this not to knock men (at all) but to say it’s funny how we assume that women’s orgasms are “hard” just because they don’t tend happen as quickly as their male partners. I mean, consider if Early Bird’s partner was more quick on the trigger she might still think she had “problems” reaching orgasm during sex!


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I'm in my 40's now, and have

Submitted by Jericka (not verified) on Sat, 2012-05-26 12:00.

I'm in my 40's now, and have had a few different partners. Sometimes they came easier than I, and sometimes I came easier. When the difference wasn't too much, I could deal fairly well, or adjust something to make things a little more in tandem. It helps that I don't ....usually...get too sensitive after I orgasm.

If I get too sensitive then I need a break at minimum, and I am happy that currently I am in a position where I can:
1. Say please stop.
2. Stopping happens as soon as I ask.

I take neither of those for granted.

Asking verbally for anything during sex took the realization that I could, the belief that it would improve things, and PRACTICE. It was very hard for me at first. It still isn't effortless, and I am still working on it.

I am getting better at picking partners who listen and care. Guys who will stop when asked may not be rare, but, stopping before their own orgasm isn't exactly encouraged or reinforced in our society. Stopping and then not guilting me, but rather waiting for me to be ready again works better to get more sex later, but I don't believe that that is widely taught or encouraged. .

All excellent points (I'm

Submitted by Irene (not verified) on Sat, 2012-05-26 14:04.

All excellent points (I'm gonna talk about other stuff, but not because I don't agree with you). But I'm surprised no one talked about her being only 18 (or asked how things went when she masturbated), and how her responses might change over time. In my experience at that age (which is a bit before I'd ever had partnered sex, but loooong after my first orgasm), my sexual response was very straightforward: if I was really turned on, orgasm was almost immediate, and if I wasn't so turned on, it took slightly longer. I'm pretty sure that had already slowed down some by the time I was out of my teens. I also didn't have any problem climaxing repeatedly, so that wasn't a huge problem by any means, but there were times it was frustrating because coming that quickly wasn't satisfying.

I definitely agree with the advice about switching it up, assuming she was talking about intercourse. Oftentimes PIV has so much baggage associated with it that can be a lousy place to start for young couples anyway; they may learn more by experimenting with other options. 'Course, I'm a bit biased by one long-term boyfriend I had in college, who wouldn't do PIV at all -- and *wow,* did that ever turn out to be a feature, not a bug. Or maybe she'd feel differently about PIV intercourse following a non-PIV orgasm. It does in any case take a little time to get used to having intercourse go on for a while. Maybe they're not using enough lube. ("Hello, Dr. Nagoski? I have a question..." -- "The answer is more lube. Go away.")

These days my response is a heck of a lot more complicated: sometimes the more turned on I am to start with, the harder I find it to focus during partnered sex. I get all kinds of amazing sensations, but they just refuse to build up, and if I finally do force a complete, as it were, it's only barely there. Fortunately that doesn't happen all the time, but it's severely frustrating, especially as I can't seem to shake the habit of thinking that high libido = easy orgasms. The good thing about it, though, is that sometimes I get really cathartic shaking and crying afterwards, which sounds terrible but actually feels fantastic.

"If Early Bird's partner

Submitted by Missy (not verified) on Sun, 2012-05-27 14:36.

"If Early Bird's partner could only go two minutes instead of hours then ta-da, suddenly she'd suddenly be “frigid!” "

Or he'd be dysfuntional, unmanly or both, if there is some sort of 'disconnect' between partners, either partner can be pathologised and shamed depending on which sexist idas are most prevalent where they live. 

"either partner can be

Submitted by figleaf on Mon, 2012-05-28 07:56.

"either partner can be pathologised and shamed depending on which sexist idas are most prevalent where they live."

Bingo! Nicely put, Missy. Thanks. --fl

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