beauty standards

Whether They're Kardashians or Cardassians, Let’s Stop Claiming that People We’re not Attracted to Are “Disgusting”

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Via Brute Reason, here's a great post about not bashing those you're merely not attracted to from The Polyamorous Misanthrope

[L]et’s stop claiming that people we’re not attracted to are “disgusting”:

Can we all, please, stop using terms of disgust for people to whom we are not sexually attracted?

[...]Let’s say that, oh, people with brown hair aren’t attractive to you. It does not make people who have brown hair offensive or disgusting. It just means that they have brown hair and that isn’t your thing. It’s okay that it’s not your thing.

It’s not okay to get indignant because someone has the temerity not to be attractive to you.

Like curvy chicks? That’s cool. It’s not cool to snark the skinny ones just because that ain’t your thang.

Gay male? Cool. But freaking out about how disgusting pussy is? Gimme a break.

Source: Brutereason

This reminds me of a related point I was telling my children about yesterday afternoon. (They're right in the middle of the school-age crush zone at the moment.) Specifically my daughter mentioned a friend's disappointment upon learning that White Collar star Matt Bomer is not just gay but happily raising three children with his partner. My observation was that orientation really matters if and only if the person in question is a direct prospective partner. Which pretty much by-definition Matt Bomer, who lives a continent away, isn't now and isn't likely to be. Nor would it matter if my daughter's friend was a gay-identifying male: Matt Bomer still lives a continent -- not to mention a generation -- away!

This post fits in really nicely with that point! Consider the 1990s trope of people joking about then-attorney-general Janet Reno's lack of conventional/cliche sex appeal. Or the more recent "positive" comments about Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman's conventional/cliche good looks. Or the ambiguous but unnecessarily derogatory and/or adulatory remarks about nominally conservative performance artist Ann Coulter's appearance.

It doesn't matter because, since they probably wouldn't sleep with you, their looks, orientation, speculative, or even real talents in bed have no, zero, none bearing on one's fandom.

And, as you say so nicely, it even has no bearing if you're the one who wouldn't sleep with them! There's never, ever a reason to say anything more than "not my type."

Not least because saying anything more reveals far more about you than it does about the object of one's scorn.

And of course the added bonus confrontation when faced with someone's virulent rejection of, say, Marylin Monroe's mole or Paul Ryan's hairline or (my personal bugaboo) the makeup worn by various Kardashians.. or is that spelled Cardassians would be "projection much?" And/or "Trying to pass?"


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Tragedy #204 From Things Could Be Worse: Questioning the Brains vs. Beauty Stereotype

 

 

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Benjamin Dewey says draws

Do You know a ravishing scientist who deserves more attention for her mathematical derivations than for her aesthetic wonders? Show her you understand how vexing the veil of comeliness can be when it masks an equally exquisite brain for which no one shows a primary concern! This illustration is available as a keepsake from my emporium.

Tagged: For Lisa Randall. Steph Levi. Saskia de Vries and Hedy Lamarr Beauty Great Thinker Lady Scientist Cupid Brilliant often overshadows work Deriving Maxwell's Equations for the Potentials chalk top hat love

Source: Things Could Be Worse

It's kind of a big deal. There was a sort of lowlife blogger years ago who'd preface many of the images he'd repost with comments like "With a body like that she should never have to work a day."

Leaving aside the insane idea that supporting one's self with sex or "beauty" isn't work, where does anyone get the idea that it would be fun to have a brain and never fucking use it?

In my socially checkered past I've managed to live in a number of situations where one occasionally encounters "kept" women: higher-end rock music culture, cocaine-dealer culture (closely related to the preceding), middle-upper-class and upper-upper-class neighborhoods (where I was a paperboy), and country-club culture (related to the preceding.) And near as I can tell, a almost-synonymous word for people (mostly women) who not only aren't expected not to work but are outright expected not to work is "alcoholic."

Human beings don't make very good pets.

Years and years ago a friend my age, a nursing student who had grown up in country-club culture, said she had to get out because what other girls from her neighborhood were going through was either making them insane or driving them to drink. She said, yeah, it might sound like fun to "do nothing but lie on your back eating bonbons and drinking Cutty Sark," while your husband worked, the gardner and maid took care of the house and the nanny took care of the kids, but, "Frankly I'd be happier changing bedpans for a living." (I lost touch with her decades ago, before she finished nursing school, but she was on track to become a Nurse Practitioner rather than a bedpan changer.)

I dunno. I've been catching up on my reading this morning and running into a lot of commentary by women scientists, women skeptics, women in medicine, and even little girls trying to go to school. The theme is just...

You know what, it's just dumb! Not to mention just an unbelievable assault on human potential. Not to mention an even bigger insult to half of all of humanity! But mostly just really fucking dumb. Richard Fineman was attractive enough but no one ever suggested he couldn't be attractive and also win a Nobel Prize in physics. Anderson Cooper is attractive enough but no one ever suggest he's "too pretty to do real reporting." And even though the first President George Bush selected the sorry-assed J. Danforth Quayle for his good looks ("women will be throwing their underwear at him at campaign stops"), and even though he was never smarter than a bag full of golf balls, there was still never any question that he was also going to work. Heck, even Mitt (Mittens) Romney, who was born with both a silver foot in his mouth and a full head of hair continues to work even after making further piles of money putting other people out of work. And while a lot of people believe he shouldn't do the job he's looking for, nobody deplores his basic interest or desire in working, period. So where's the fucking contradiction in women being attractive and working? Brilliantly or otherwise?


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Thoughts on Scott Brown's and Elizabeth Warren's Stupid Exchange Over Nude Photography

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Image via TalkingPointsMemo.

Part 1: Massachusetts Senate Candidate Elizabeth Warren stupidly declared that unlike her opponent, incumbent Sen. Scott Brown, she didn't pay for college by posing naked (for Cosmopolitan back when the magazine published monthly nude male pinups.)

Part 2: When asked by a talk-show host whether he had "officially responded to Elizabeth Warren’s comment about how she didn’t take her clothes off?" Brown stupidly laughed and said “Thank God!"

What. Ever.

A couple things here. First of all, if Elizabeth Warren used as many cosmetics as Scott Brown she'd be as conventionally attractive. This isn't a knock on Brown, but it's not a knock on Warren either. Cosmetics are a choice. They can have a profound effect on our appearance even though they make no difference in our abilities to function.* Brown has generally chosen one way, Warren another. Both are petty to have brought it up.

Second, fuck Warren for trying to slut-shame Brown!

Third, fuck Brown for slamming Warren's potential sex appeal!

Since both present entirely within generally-accepted parameters for life in contemporary culture it's none of one's businesses either how the other chooses to present nor is it anyone's business how the rest of the general public ought to interpret their choices.

Oh, and fourth, the role reversals -- Elizabeth Warren playing the "dismissive male" with her disapproval of frivolity and Scott Brown playing the "compromised but prideful ingénue" with his arch riposte is just too precious for words.

And finally? Fifthly? Good for Brown for posing naked for beefcake photos in a national magazine at a time when there was tremendous pressure on men to gaze rather than be gazed upon. And for similar reasons good for Warren for putting accomplishment ahead of appearance. Each played then, and to a certain extent could play now, an important role in breaking through centuries of gendered expectations... but by now fishtailing past each other like Boston drivers in snow they're not helping anybody.

Note: Image and all quotes taken from TalkingPointsMemo.com.

* Well, technically it can make a difference in terms our our ability to "psyche" ourselves. For instance an always-meticulous editor I used to work with (not as a writer) always wore a precisely tailored suit, tie, and polished shoes on the days he did his final edits. His argument was that dressing extra carefully helped him work extra carefully. But I digress...


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Like a Lot of 40's "Pin-up" Models, Superman's Lois Lane Was Made Over to Look "Like the Tasty Dish She is Supposed to Be"

Via Geek Feminism Jess McCabe of The F-Word points out that the cartoon character Lois Lane got the same "makeover" treatment in the 1940s and 1950s that models for classic "pin-up" paintings did.

Original photo of pin-up model plus "corrected" painting

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Images via UFunk.net.

Early Lois Lane

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Image via the F-Word Blog

"Corrected" Lois Lane

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Image via the F-Word Blog

The suggestions for "correcting" the way Lois Lane should be drawn are... well, funny's not the right word but maybe interesting is. Check out the details, including the 1941 opinion that Lane "looks pregnant" in the first image, Jess's blog.


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Hmm... How Exactly Does Rarity Evolve Through Sexual Selection?

While reflecting on a male friend's persistent questions about whether another acquaintance's breasts were "real" or "artificial," Brunettes Blog blogger Ginny comes up with a much more plausible... and mundane... explanation for beauty standards (which are remarkably plastic over time and culture) than simple "evolutionary fitness signaling:" scarcity. (Emphasis mine.)

Another possibility ... is that exacting standards of beauty are not primarily about evolutionarily-coded fitness signals, as we’re so often told these days. Instead, they’re about status and acquisition. Women with lovely faces and perfect bodies are rare, especially as today’s “perfect body” is tiny with large breasts, not a common naturally occuring combination. Anything rare can be assigned a high value, and gaining possession of a rare valuable grants status to the possessor… especially when competition comes into play, as it seems to do with partner-choice. If a naturally-perfect body is a diamond to shine on the arm of a victorious male, then a surgically-enhanced perfect body is cubic zirconia: just as lovely, but easier to come by and therefore less valuable.

Source: The Brunettes Blog

You know what? Even if the stwatistical correlations of hip/waist ratios and ovulation detection were true it still wouldn't explain the much, much larger (but usually very much more critical to local cultures and times) distinctions of skinniness in women when food is abundant, corpulence when food is scarce, flabbiness in women when physical labor is obligatory, buffness when most work is done at desks, pale skin when most women laborers do field work, tans when most labor is factory or office work, and, especially, blonde women when blondes are scare or "exotic Asian women" in those parts of the world where... there are nearly two billion other Asian people. Oh, and women with clear, flawless skin when insects, acne, and sunburn was prevalent, and women with lots of tattoos, brandings, and piercings once sunblock, benzoyl peroxide, and sunblock become de rigueur.

Feel free to point out that evolution might have biased humans to equate that which is scarce with that which is beautiful. We're certainly evolved creatures (as opposed to what? Spontaneous generation?) But a preference for that which is rare is a very different matter than straight up sexual selection.


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"Simple" Clothes for Men a Pleasant Side-Effect of... Homophobia-Phobia

Speaking of the myth of male indifference to appearance, while trying (I think) to be sympathetic to the plight of DebrahLee Lorenzana, who was fired for looking too “provocative,” brooklynbadboy of Daily Kos hits a bird and eventually crashes into the Brooklyn Bridge.

For men, it’s difficult to dress provocatively. Men have to go pretty far over the edge to provoke any sort of response, excepting for men in uniform. You’d have to wear extremely tight pants around the crotch, no shirt, and basically parade around like a peacock. Otherwise, for men, a standard issue suit or jeans and workboots constitute a rather simple workplace habit. In fact, for most fellas who don’t wear a suit everyday, casual dress rather closely resembles work attire. Personally, I grab whatever shirt, tie, and dark suit that appears clean and put it on, sometimes not even noticing various stains until I have my coffee. No matter the body type, it’s pretty difficult for a man to get it wrong when going to work.

He said it here.

Really? As long as I’m speaking of things, how about speaking of homophobia and homophobia-phobia?. How’s about showing up at the bank in a skirt? Or even just an impeccably bespoke-tailored lavender suit?

Even if you’re straight.

If your own homophobia won’t do it your fear of… provoking homophobia probably will.

You wanna know why most guys really wear “a standard issue suit or jeans and workboots constitut[ing] a rather simple workplace habit?” It ain’t just simplicity, champs, it’s fear.

(Note: Simplicity is one convenient, comfortable, and affordable side effect of homophobia and homophobia-phobia. But it’s still just a side effect.)


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Since Only Women Care About Their Appearance Nosehair Trimmers Must Be Recreational Devices for Men

In a single blow (no pun intended) CokeTalk of Dear Coke Talk addresses several… misperceptions about male beauty standards.

Q: I’m a 30 y/o guy who despite beating the family average is finally losing his hair. Problem is, I have one of those ungainly scalps that is not suited to straight-up shaving it.

I swore I’d never be beholden to my hair and have no interest in forking over cash and dignity to pharm companies or miracle cures.

I just can’t find a style that allows me to bald gracefully. Suggestions?

A: No interest in forking over cash and dignity? Fuck your dignity.

Do you have any idea how much money we [women] spend and pain we endure chasing unattainable standards of beauty?

We’re over here nipping, tucking, lasering, injecting, dying, tanning, waxing and whitening every square inch of our bodies. The least you lazy bastards could do is show a little effort when you start losing your hair.

She said it here.

Actually I guess she can’t have said it there because, as we all know, women are never “visual” creatures so how could they care? And for that matter he never could have asked her either because, as we also know, when it comes to their own appearances men are “natural” creatures who never once worry about how they look.

Or, more technically, if we didn’t believe that kind of crap we’d surely notice how much time and effort men put into almost everything about their appearances, from sucking in their guts at the beach to hair plugs to Bruce Springsteen’s lyric “I combed my hair till it was just right / and commanded the night brigade,” to heel lifts, to gym memberships, to $200,000 for a sports car we can look good in. And lately, manscaping pubises, laser hair removal of torsos front and back, lasering and/or waxing monobrows

Oh yeah, and (according to an internal AmazonAssociates tool) exactly four hundred and three products for nose hair removal!

Extra credit? The bogus Two Rules of Desire, since it really is intolerable and inconceivable either for a woman to have desire or a man to be desired, all that invisible time, money, and effort men put into their appearance? Well, if women don’t care, and men aren’t interested, then it’s all got to be done out of pure, unadulterated narcissism.

Right?

Well, of course wrong! But that’s not as interesting as the further effort we put into maintaining the belief that it mustn’t be wrong.


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"Vajazzled" Vulvas: Privilege Rorschach Test?

Lisa of Sociological Images succinctly describes the concept behind “vajazzling.”

In any case, the video below, in which a woman documents the vajazzling of her “vagina,” reveals that the term refers to the placing of a field of tiny crystals where your public hair would be. So, first you essentially replace your pubic hair with shiny objects.

See the video, and read Lisa’s text in context, here.

Succinctly but not completely. That should read shiny, sharp cut-glass crystal objects! Which at the very, very least would tend to limit one’s partner’s interest in face-to-face intercourse. And assuming men are being honest who say they don’t want pubic hair in their mouths ought to be just even more balky about chipping their molars on Swarovski crystals.

My guess is that the hair-in-the-mouth thing is a red herring. As Holly says, if men are so all-fired indiscriminating and sex-crazed they sure are a demandingly picky bunch. And nothing says demanding like “scrape off your pubic hair with a razor, or pull it out with hot, sticky wax,” I’m guessing saying “and encrust it with jewels instead” just seems extra special.

My second guess, though, is that it’s scarcely any of my business how an intimate partner chooses to groom herself and no business at all of mine how anyone else goes about it. Part of privilege would be assuming people who get themselves vajazzled are interested in men’s opinion in the first place.


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Holly Pervocracy's Critical Assessment and Formal Restatement of "For Every Jack There's a Jill"

Holly of The Pervocracy on the problem with beauty standards. You should read the whole thing. Here’s a snippet.

Individual preference isn’t the only problem with standards. The other problem is that it’s really unhealthy to create the idea of the perfect mate in your head and then try to find humans who match. I didn’t know that short blond men were sexy to me until I met Tommy. In fact I still don’t know that they are—I just know that Tommy is, and I think a tall dark Tommy would appeal to me more than a short blond random guy. We don’t live in a world of types but people.

So “standards” suck, but that doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone equally attractive. That’s silly and it’s not going to happen. Plus it leads to creepers going “you can’t find me unattractive, that’s discrimination!” This also doesn’t mean that “everyone’s got someone”; the vast majority of people do but I can’t make you promises. What it really means is that sexiness is the chemistry between individuals. “Society” isn’t going to date me no matter how thin and busty I am; the intersection of one person’s unique appearance and one person’s unique and malleable preferences is all that ever matters.

Asking if I’m “sexy” is, ultimately, like asking if I’m “a friend.” The answer isn’t yes, no, or even “depends by what standards”; it’s “to whom?”
She said it here.

This is a great example of the practical application of metaphysics and “just semantics” to sex. Oh and while it sounds like it ought to be a pun, if Holly covers the metaphysics of sex here, Geoffrey K. Pullam covers the metaphysics of violins at Language Log.


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Self-Perception vs. Partner Desire Deepens Our Beauty/Worthiness Traps

Anna N. of Jezebel references two studies, one a vague study on the benefits of larger thigh size (which may be a good proxy for overall muscle mass) and lifetime health, and then, getting right to the heart of the beauty trap (emphasis mine…)

A similarly mixed blessing is a survey (by research giants Date.com, Matchmaker.com and Amor.com), in which 85% of men agreed that, “A couple of extra pounds are fine by me.” We’re not sure if “a couple of extra pounds” means “as long as you’re not fat or anything,” but it’s nice to be reminded that most men don’t expect women to look like the cover of Self magazine.

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The survey also found that 90% of women think “men find extra weight unattractive.” Says Shira Zwebner, “relationship adviser” for Date.com, Matchmaker.com and Amor.com, “Unfortunately, these types of misconceptions between the sexes are extremely common, and result in a lot of missed dating and relationship opportunities.” So don’t miss an opportunity! Join our dating sites today! Or, you know, love your body, and don’t try to make it smaller based on what you think men want — or bigger based on science that has yet to be confirmed.

Read the excerpts in context and follow the links here.

The same things can be said for men’s gendered worthiness-trap concerns about money, class, muscles, and (especially) penis size — it’s not that size, weight, clothes, or cars (or, breast or penile implants) don’t matter to our partners. It’s that they almost never matter as much to our opposite genders as we are led (or lead ourselves) to believe they do… “result in a lot of missed dating and relationship opportunities.”


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