cultural assumptions

Species Assumptions: Neanderthals, Being Another Species, Might Have Preferred to Stroll With Another Troll

Paleoanthropologist John Hawks picks up an unconsciously but hugely man-hating comment on Slashdot.


Slashdot picks up the Svante Pääbo “Humans had sex with Neandertals“ story.

Hilarity ensues.


You do not need any DNA analysis to figure that out. What do you think the troll did to the captured the [sic] princess, once he took her back to his mountain cave? And they did not call it the Stockholm syndrome if she ever was freed; it was called bergtatt (literally: taken into the mountain) or bewitched.

Mod skepticism +5…
He said it here.


We have no, zero, none idea whether the sexual behavior in Neanderthals, or Cro Magnons, or any other species in our genus would be that much like ours. We have very little reason to believe that other species would be more attracted to members of our species — presumably Neanderthals would prefer to meander down the the Neander with a man or woman with a nice bell-shaped rib-cage and undershot jaw instead of the weirdly hourglass-shaped, pointy-chinned “princess” the slashdot commentator imagines would be more “hawt.”


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No, Modern Men (or Women) Aren't Wimps

Geneticist and paleoanthropologist John Hawks tackles arguments from a new book claiming that modern men are wimps. (It’s called Manthropology: The Science of the Inadequate Modern Male so there you go.) Anyway, Hawks says there’s a couple of yes-buts in there.


it is entirely true that our bone cross-sectional areas have greatly reduced, with consequent reductions in compressive and torsional strength. We don’t suffer the stresses of the past, and our bones are weaker than ancient peoples’ — at least in comparison to our mass.

That’s the complicated part of any comparison — men in Westernized nations today tend to be bigger than many ancient groups of people. If you’re going to compare “wimpiness” between Neandertals and living men, you have to understand the relative masses.

Read the quote in context here.

Americans aren’t just taller, we’re bigger than we were 200 years ago.

Did Neandertal women really have 10 percent more muscle bulk than modern European men? At 60-80 kg in mass, Neandertal women were between the 5th and 50th percentiles for American white men (link).

Hawks also puts an assertion about the running speeds of Australian aboriginal from 20,000 years ago: estimates based on preserved footprints of six men running down prey suggest the fastest was able to sprint… about as fast as a good high-school track star: a little bit faster than a modern high-school girl, slower than a modern high-school boy.

Now I’m not saying that 37 kph isn’t an impressive speed — there’s no way I could run that fast, even if I were being chased by a Sasquatch. My point is just that there isn’t very much time separating a good high school athlete from the World Record. Sprinters spend an intense effort training to shave a miniscule fraction off their times.

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But it’s hardly a knock against “modern males” to say that ancient footprints would have crossed the finish line a second slower than the fastest Wisconsin boys.

I don’t really have a lot of patience with “it’s been all downhill ever since.” Humans are very, very good at adapting to niches. We were great at it 20,000 years ago in Australia. We were really great at it in the wilds of Borneo. We were really good at it in the slums in London and New York. We were really good at it in deserts. We were really great at it in Tierra del Fuego even when we’d lost the technology for both fire and clothing (but not, significantly and not surprisingly, body decoration.) We’re also really great in suburbia, in war zones, in agrarian societies, in riparian ones, in hunter-gatherer ones, in nomadic ones, in monument-building ones, and even in darkened-surrounded-by-empty-cheetoz-bag ones.

And the funny thing is that more or less, if you dropped 100 modern human children into pretty much any human society (that would tolerate them) over the last maybe 1,000-100,000 years anywhere on the planet they’d almost certainly survive at… roughly the same survival and acculturation rates as the local children would. But also grow to roughly the same height, live only about as long, and accomplish about as much as their “ancient” peers. Same if you were to drop 100 “ancient” children from back there and then into any society today (that would tolerate them.) And, for that matter, run the 100-meter dash in roughly average time. On the other hand, drop 100 adults from either situation into either situation and either way they’d almost certainly have a rougher time of it.

It’s not that we’re not evolving, at all. (Hawks is a strong proponent of the still-evolving school of thought.) It’s that in evolutionary terms millennia are still pretty short intervals. And though culture has changed considerably from place to place and time to time, the culture in general has been a huge factor in whether and how we survive to reproduce for a very long time.


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What Are Your Favorite Creepiest-In-Retrospect Pop Song Lyrics?

Sex educator and sex-ed education professor Karen Raye of Adolescent Sexuality has a cool post up about “romantic” pop song lyrics. Check it out.

Tonight I am preparing for a class tomorrow morning on gender.  I start all my college classes with a song that is relevant to the topic…

As so often happens when we start listening to music on YouTube, we veered dangerously off track into talking about songs that have a different connotation now than they did at the time.  Two that jumped right to mind were Baby It’s Cold Outside and Every Breath You Take.  In the event that it’s been too long since you’ve heard these songs to hold a good conversation about them, you can read the lyrics from the links above or listen to them below.

Baby It’s Cold Outside was seen as playful banter, and Every Breath You Take was seen as a romantic ode.

But why?

When you look at the lyrics, they’re both excessively issue-laden songs that portray unhealthy attitudes about sex and relationships.  Baby It’s Cold Outside is particularly rife for deconstructing in a class on healthy sexual communication (as a negative example, of course).

Read the quote in context here.

Every Breath You Take can be read as stalking and/or isolation-abuse. And in case you’re unfamiliar with it, the old show tune “Baby It’s Cold Outside” is about straight-up date rape.

For the record even in 1949 the subtext of Baby It’s Cold Outside wasn’t lost on the comedy duo Homer and Jethro. I can’t find the lyrics online (and they’re complex anyway) but YouTube has a video from the 1960s, reunited with June Carter Cash, that wickedly gets the point across! (Caveat: even though the slapstick in the video is consciously over the top it could be triggering.)

I always thought Rod Stewart’s “Tonight’s the Night” had the outright creepiest — “Stay away from my window / Stay away from my backdoor too?” “Let me pour ya a good long drink?” “Don’t say a word, my virgin child?” Yikes! But then I always thought that.

The Four Seasons’ “Cherish” seemed pretty cool at the time but a few years ago I realized “You don’t know how many times I wished that I could hold you / You don’t know how many times I wish that I could / Mold you into someone who would cherish me as much as I / Cherish you” is somewhere between grooming and outright manipulation.

Then in the 1970s Smokey Robinson had a string of loner/stalker/sexual-harasser hits like “Take a Letter Maria,” “Just My Imagination,” and “Knock Three Times.”

The one-hit wonder “In the Summer Time” had “if her daddy’s rich / take her out for a meal / if her daddy’s poor / just do what you feel.”

And then there was Paul Anka’s “Havin’ My Baby!” (“What a lovely way of sayin’ how much you love me.”)

Then there were John Lennon’s early lyrics like “Run for Your Life” from Rubber Soul. M’yeah, baby!

The list goes on.

On the upside, as I’ve mentioned elsewhere if you closely read “Stand By Your Man” it’s full of veiled contempt for both monogamy and male supremacy.

Anyway, since many of those songs were written for the emergent-adolescent market, where generally speaking the audience was trying to process new emotions and hormones around things they hadn’t yet actually experienced the results could easily have been as pernicious as the accusations made against exposure to porn at the same age.

What’s your “favorite?”


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A Completely Different Perspective on "Man-Only" Unemployment in the Current Economic Downturn

Financial journalism wizard Felix Salmon brings up a nice counterpoint to the prevailing wisdom that working women are coming out ahead of men in the current recession.

Chris Swann reports that, yes, men have suffered 75% of the job losses in this recession. But look at the last recession: they suffered 86% of the job losses in that one. And the recession before that? More than 98% of the job losses.

He said it here.

Looking at it that way women are being proportionally hurt more in this recession than previous ones. They account for 25% of layoffs today, 14% in George W. Bush’s recession, and only 2% of layoffs in George H.W. Bush’s recession in the early 1990s.

And, as Swann notes in his article, it’s not because there were fewer women in the workplace in the 1990s: women were 47% of the workforce back then.

Swann adds

Progress on the desegregation of the workforce and attitudes to gender roles have not advanced since the mid-1990s. This is despite the fact that women are now outpacing men academically — earning 58 percent of bachelor’s degrees and 60 percent of master’s.

Since superior academic performance doesn’t seem to be narrowing the gap, we need a renewed drive by government and companies to root out discrimination and create a more family-friendly work place. Although the United States has excellent anti-discrimination laws, enforcement is woefully underfunded.

Another necessary but more expensive step would be greater provision of childcare. Increasing the length of the school day, lowering the starting age and reducing school vacations would all help — as could more generous paternity leave. Larger employers should be encouraged to expand the provision of workplace nurseries — a reliable way of attracting highly skilled mothers.

As the slide in manufacturing and production tails off, male workers can expect some relief. The problems of many women in the workforce are far more ingrained and harder to deal with. Man-cession aside, it’s still a man’s world.

He said it here.

That sounds about right.

And just for the record, now that my own children are independent and my role as a stay-at-home dad becomes less necessary and more economically unfeasible I’m getting a real birds-eye view of the big thumping hit time out for kids has on one’s employment prospects, in or out of a recession, yes, but especially in one. If I can find a job it still has to be part-time, my resume has this giant gaping hole in it, I’ve got tons of (sometimes strikingly sophisticated) volunteer experience and a ton of skills associated with running a popular and successful but, um, anonymous (oops!) blog, but it doesn’t look that good on paper.

So I’d just like to a) echo Swann’s points about what’s needed for the economy to benefit from the (overwhelmingly if not exclusively) female two-track workforce and b) tip my hat to journalists like Swann and Salmon for shining some light on the issue. (Yes, women, and some men, have been saying it for years. It’s been an exceedingly rare item in business publications though so this is a good thing. Due, I might add, in part thanks to the rise of the new generation of business and labor journalists. But I digress…)

I’d also like to say that to the extent I’m likely to get back on my feet career-wise it’ll be thanks to pioneering, sometimes harrowing and humiliating efforts begun by 2nd-wave feminists 30 years ago to clear a path for “mommy-track” and re-entry women back into the workforce. Even if you’re not affected by the recession chances are you’re benefitting from it too — part-time work, flex time, employer-offered childcare (if you can get it), family leave, job sharing, resume footnoting, even white-collar contracting and telecommuting… and even the possibility of men taking time off to raise their children… are available thanks almost entirely to feminism and the rise of women in the workforce.


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Blame Where Blame is Due: "Shame-Based" Culture Edition

Echidne of the Snakes says of a family that’s rejected their eight year old (eight years old!!!) daughter after she was kidnapped and sexually assaulted by four elementary and middle-school-age boys.

We must stop victim-blaming in all countries of the world. And we really must stop thinking that an eight-year old girl could somehow be responsible for her own gang-rape or that a raped woman or girl brings shame to her family. The shame belong to someone else entirely. Most prominently to all the cultures of the world which view girls as less valuable than boys.

Read the quote in context here.

I’m… sympathetic to arguments for the merits and demerits of (American style) “guilt-based” cultures vs (in this case Liberian) “shame-based” cultures. And I’m aware there’s a certain amount of foghorning on the one hand, and tiptoeing on the other, about possible cultural insensitivity.

But I don’t see where either guilt or shame accrues to either the child or her family. If the four boys hadn’t done what they’d done there’d be nothing, at all, to be either guilty of or ashamed of. But the boys did do what they did. And so, again, guilt-based or shame-based the shame falls on _them! Or, if you want to be all culturally relative about it, on them and their families!

Even if you want to preserve cultural mores (and, outside of cultural traditions that equate women and girls with livestock, real-estate, and servants) you can hold responsible those who are fucking responsible. And, without further intruding on cultural diversity, still change the world.

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That said, see also Anna N’s reminders about assuming cultural differences in so-called “honor” situations. That doesn’t appear to be an issue here unless there’s some other reason for the girl’s family to tell authorities to put her in foster care because they didn’t want her back after she’d been assaulted.


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Distinguishing Casual Flings from Casual Sex

Karen Rayne of Adolescent Sexuality, who teaches both sex education to early adolescents and sex-ed instruction to education majors has an interesting take on summer/vacation flings for teenagers.

Vacation flings can range from more emotional connection and no physical connection to an exclusively sexual experience.  They can last a weekend, or a week, or several weeks.  Some of them are remembered and some are forgotten.

But what’s the point of these little affairs?  Are they essentially good or harmful for teenagers?  Should parents encourage them or discourage them?

As I have mentioned before, teenagers are in a place where they are discovering who they are, who they want to be, and how much choice they really have in the matter.  To go through this process, most teenagers need to experience themselves in a variety of situations and acting in a variety of ways.  It’s a healthy thing for them to date around and learn what kind of a partner they want to have.

Vacations often offer a safe place to experiment.  The relationship is generally, by circumstance, limited in length. If the match is not a beneficial one, the parents (and the teenager) can take solace in it ending shortly. The teenager can experience a different side, a different personality, a different kind of relationship, with a firm expiration date attached. If the teenager likes this new sense of self, it can be brought back home, but if the teenager does not like the new sense of self, it can be discarded and left behind. Very convenient, no?

She said it here.

As my blog name suggests I’m not enthusiastic about sex and young people. That doesn’t mean I don’t think they shouldn’t be sexual. I hope it’s obvious that I support sex education (I believe age-appropriate sex education should begin very early.) It’s just that since adulthood actually lasts a really long time, and that a healthy, non-pressured, non-sexualized adolescence lays a great foundation for… well… real adult sex I don’t think one “misses out” by waiting till you’re already a adult instead of imagining it’s sex that actually makes you a man or woman.

Where I part company with the abstinence/chastity crowd, of course, is that don’t see adolescence as a rearguard attempt to hold off on relationship formation till one finds their “one true love.” So I agree wholeheartedly with Rayne that casual or transitory relationships are important precursors to serious and long-term ones.

See also: Debby at My Sexy Professor has a post about How to Make Casual Flings Work. The four main headings: know thyself, come prepared, safety first, and have realistic expectations nicely illustrates the difference between adolescent and adult relationships and further illustrates how learn to crawl before you walk and learn to walk before you run extends to learn to navigate relationships before you have sex.

It takes time to “know thyself.” “Come prepared” tends to assume you already know what to prepare for. “Safety first” sounds self-evident, and to be honest in our hyper-vigilant culture of parenting it’s the rare child who hasn’t been stuffed brim-full with it from birth. But the transition to “independently assessing potential partners and opportunities” is a pretty big step up from “don’t put your fingers in the fan.”

Which takes me to Debby’s last point about having realistic expectations: Good expectations need to include the point that at least half of all college freshmen are still virgins! Even though something like 85% of freshmen believe only 15% are… and that, naturally, they’re part of that 15%... and that, naturally, that makes them losers. Which evidently, even in college, in turn makes it harder for them to get a serious grip on know thyself, come prepared, and safety first.

Which in turn goes back to the message Karen Rayne, and Deb Haffner, and Heather Corinna and countless other professional sex educators come back to again and again: the point of real, comprehensive sex education isn’t just to get us ready for sex (a big concern of “traditional values” types that Rayne beautifully refutes here) but to help us get ready to get ready to have sex as well.


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Lie Down With PUAs, Get Up With... Challenged Assumptions

Tyler Cowen of Marginal Revolution, of whom one can usually expect better, says

Sebastian Flyte, an unusual commentator, wrote:

“A man’s mate value is tied to status – if he emigrates he throws away whatever mate value he built up in his life. A girl’s is tied to youth and beauty. These are carried with her luggage.”

He has a point.  Female migrants should on average be prettier, ceteris paribus, than those who stay in the old country.

He said it here.

Sebastian Flyte, for the record, is some sort of Pick-up Artist. That doesn’t make him wrong. The content of his assertion does. But what do you expect — he also thinks “Girls are pretty boring creatures.” Because, he says, “The amount of time I’ve spent on the internet in my life has given me a depth of knowledge far greater than the average girl I meet. I simply know WAY more about how the world works. Girls spent their teenage years socialising. I was on the internet and reading books. This knowledge-divergence can be both a blessing and a curse.” Because, I say, he thinks women are creatures (mmm, heterosexuality as bestiality!) Because for all his living on the internet he hasn’t yet figured out that single, unattached women, being human beings and therefore having libidos, are rather keen on sex and therefore don’t have to be tricked or confused into it. But I digress…

I’m more surprised by Cowen’s assertion that everything else being equal female migrants should be prettier than those who don’t migrate. (Later in his post he at least leaves open the equally silly but less gender-binding possibility that men who migrate could also be more attractive.)

I think it’s beyond silly. If looks and youth were such strong determinants you’d expect (using the economics version of Mazlow’s hammer) that younger, more attractive women would be more appealing, and thus of higher “value” to establishment men in the location of origin and so ceteris paribus they should also have less reason to migrate than their older or less attractive peers.

Actually, obviously, I’m pretty sure ambition on the one hand and how stagnant or stifling the place of origin is compared to the destination on the other have way more to do with decisions to migrate than either looks, transferrable skills, or other “mate value.”

Another factor would tend to be local connections for the would-be migrant — either opportunities (parents or parents friends fast tracking employment or business prospects, for instance) or obligations (“we need you to run…” or “but who will take care of…?) And so to the extent that women are the traditional parental caregivers, and since younger women tend to have younger parents, one would expect that, again ceteris paribus, younger women (whether attractive or not) would have fewer obligations and therefore fewer binding connections than somewhat older women, even unmarried ones.

And yeah, yeah, you can ride ceteris paribus to the rescue (but “all other things being equal” could mean compared to women who’s parents are all the same age and who’s parents are able to invoke the same obligations on them) but if you ride it too far you’re left with inconclusively small sample sizes.

And for the record Cowen plays (also uncharacteristically) a xenophobia card when he says “From a public choice point of view, the women in the country receiving the immigrants should be more suspicious of liberal immigration policies than should be the men in the receiving country.” All them immigrant dames being statistically prettier and younger and (oh heck, why not play that card too?) exotic and pliant and therefore more desirable to destination-local men than the flinty local women they’d otherwise have to choose from.

(And I bring up this criticism despite Matt Yglesias’s sensible and useful Emerson Hall maxim about jumping on experts for seeming elementary mistakes, articulated here. For one thing Cowen is an expert economist, not an expert on migration. For another, he’s citing someone who, in addition to being a pickup artist, is even less of an expert on migration.


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Well-Suited for Cultural Observation


Photo by Flickr user postaletrice. Used under a Creative Commons license.

Random observations I posted yesterday to Twitter from my phone while waiting for other family members and friends to rendezvous after a day at the nearby water park.

After a day at a water park I’m afraid John Derbyshire is right. One-piece suits are hotter than bikinis. That’s what he meant, right? :-)

Water park observation #2: by the end of the day all suit bottoms are baggy, suggesting relevant ad photo shoots happen in the morning. :-)

Waterpark observation #3: hairy backs are far more common on older men. As previously reported. And no not because younger men shave more.

Waterpark observation #4: “porn” poses and postures have almost no relation to just-hanging-around. Body language is huge WRT this. (Duh!)

Waterpark observation #5: past a certain point body hair, or type of suit could be a more reliable gender marker than body shape. (Added: It’s not that women have boobs, it’s that a lot of men do too. It’s not that men have narrow hips, it’s that a lot of women do too. There’s a lot of variation in humans compared to, say, penguins or even other primates. There’s a lot of overlap overlap.)

Waterpark observation #6: there was far less ogling, let alone cat-calling, than I remember from summer culture when I was a kid. Could this have anything to do with #4, above? (Added: The highly mixed age/race/class crowd, from military to working poor to middle class, wasn’t what Fox News types would call genteel, effete, or elite so that’s not it. Also, there was plenty of… um… fixed gender behavior, just no ogling, headswivelling, male-gazing, cat-calling, or “woo” plus grinning head-shakes between men after women walked past.)


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Sexual Behavior Amid Shuffling (Taxononomic) Family Trees

Via ResearchBlogging, evolutionary biologist Bjørn Østman of Pleiotropy says

A quick heads up for those interested in human evolutionary history: In Journal of Biogeography Grehan and Schwartz presents evidence for the hypothesis that the closest living relative of humans is the orangutan, and not the chimpanzee.

The phylogenetic tree of the relationship of these four apes would then look like figure B, rather than the usual one in figure A:

Their conclusion is based on morphological data, rather than molecular data (DNA), and they counter that the well-known percentages of DNA that humans share with other apes are “primitive retentions” (older traits with a deeper evolutionary past shared by a larger group of species). Humans share 98.4% with chimpanzees, 97.5% with gorillas, and 96.5% with orangutans.

The morphological data on which their study is based include features of anatomy, reproductive biology, and behavior. For example, among the great apes only humans and orangutans have thick tooth enamel, long hair, male facial hair, concealed ovulation, a preference for private, face-to-face mating, and an ability to construct shelters and beds.

No doubt this is going to cause a fair amount of debate in the scientific community. Which is great. Stay tuned.

Read the quote in context here.

Trivial point: The “primitive retentions” business is new to me but kind of makes sense. We famously famously 98.4% of our genes with chimpanzees. But, not quite as famously, we share 48% of our genes with an ear of corn! There are other plants or organism with fewer genes in common but that wouldn’t mean we’re automatically “more closely” related to corn than those other organisms. Anyway, that’s the general idea behind how orangutans could possibly be more closely related even though we’re more genetically distinct. That’s part of where the “fair amount of debate” would come in though.

Non-trivial point: the real takeaway is not for evolutionary biology but sociobiology/evolutionary-psychology: small genetic differences result in really, really big morphological and behavioral differences between even fairly closely-related species such that its difficult to make strong assertions about what’s “natural” behavior for, oh, say, us based on what we see in chimpanzees and bonobos (highly social and “polyamorous”), gorillas (“harem”-forming), orangutans (something closer to occasional casual hookups), and humans (any and all of the above, plus.)

Oh yeah. Also to the extent morphological, genetic, or behavioral affinities are significant it’s worth knowing that orangutans are said to be more sensuous and polymorphous about their sexuality than chimps or gorillas (if less so than humans.)

Fun food for thought on a Friday afternoon though.


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Except For the Wrong Part I Agree With Twisty About Stuff

Twisty of I Blame The Patriarchy gets the concept 100% right but gets the terminology 100% backwards. Talking about the desperately no-win situation young women find themselves in when they send naked pictures of themselves to young men

A woman’s social status is inexorably tied to the manner in which her sex is used by men. It’s impossible for her to express sexuality precisely right, because the sex class is not sovereign over itself. It’s subject to dudely whim. The expression of a woman’s sexuality is purely a matter of dudely interpretation.

Read the quote in context here.

That’s actually a pretty succinct way of defining women not as the sex class but as the no-sex class, a class of individuals defined as having sexual interest or desire of their own, and therefore available for the projection (sexualization) or predation (transactional or coercive extraction) of a facility they themselves do not have (or better not have) any use for themselves.

The no-win part being, as Twisty points out, that when her boyfriend (who, as a member of the real sex class is expected and required to be perpetually in lust and to be emotionally and psychologically unaffected by having it) forwards said photo to his classmates the girl is expected to either kill herself, in which case she’s dead, or not to kill herself, in which case she’s a slut. The boyfriend of the girl who dies is expected and required to be unaffected by the outcome of his action because a) he’s just a life support system for a dick anyway and b) what do you expect: boys will be boys.

In fact the third option might be that a sexually assertive girl sends photos, the immature, unprepared boy is developmentally unequipped to handle it and so he behaves as childishly as possible, diverting a sexual overture he’s actually not prepared to handle into a bonding experience with his equally immature peers. The girl, who may be further into sexual development but not immune to the peer pressure adolescents exert on each other, acts not out of sexual shame, which she might not feel, but instead of the plain old extraordinary alienation and pain adolescents of any gender feel when they’re singled out, bullied, and betrayed by those they believe to be peer supporters.

The latter narrative won’t fly, of course, not because it’s more sympathetic to boys (it’s not, particularly, despite my passionate belief that boys are too-often sexualized before their ready) but because it’s sympathetic to girls (who are condemned if they express autonomous sexual agency and damned to become chattel or prey if they don’t.)

The only reason I can think that Twisty would persist in incorrectly calling women the “sex class” would be that a) that’s how some really, really old dead people first labeled women and b) because she’d have to confront the fact that by insisting that women withhold sex from men — even those who want1 to have sex with men, either eternally or at least until men agree to the terms of this leverage-for-sex strike — she’s perpetuating rather than subverting the dominant no-sex class paradigm.

One consequence of her incorrect use of terminology is that she sees patriarchy as inescapable — which in turn is a consequence of her endorsing a stance for women that both aids and comforts the patriarchy.

Except for that one quibble, and its consequence, I agree with her about most stuff.

_[1 Not that every woman wants to have sex. Another consequence of the stupid no-sex class paradigm is that society is unable to distinguish between members of the no-sex class it doesn’t want having sex, and members who themselves don’t want to have sex… either at the moment or ever… with men… or with anybody all. The no-sex class construction makes it easier to discern the difference. —fl]


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