fashion

The Complex Interplay of Preferences in Partner's Personal Grooming

Mon, 2011-08-01 11:07

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Over on the Reddit sex thread a poster named dreadlezzepin asks a good tables-turning question.

Do women think its weird when men shave their pubes all the way off?

Just curious, I usually just trim but today I had to do some much needed manscaping to do so I shaved them all off, being that I wouldnt have to worry so much about them. So do women generally prefer guys with shaved pubic hair or more natural? Also, guys what do you do?

Source: Reddit

For the record the answers trend heavily towards trimming rather than complete removal or not modifying it at all.

I think this male pubic hair grooming trend is pretty interesting. (And while I can't find the link it's one I predicted years ago.) I mean, yes, men aren't as subject to the rigorous scrutiny of appearance that women are, and so the question will probably never have the incredible social weight (or antagonism) that women's pubic grooming has. So call what's happening to men a good control group that helps explain why so many women who don't otherwise give fashion the time of day end up grooming themselves.

The sensation of being touched on bare or closely trimmed skin really is greater than being touched through a thicker covering of hair; it really is amazingly easier to keep clean; it won't tickle your partner's nose when they kiss nearby, in some cases minimizing UTIs either for one's self or one's partners, etc.

Meanwhile I'm curious what, if any, collateral effects might show up over time as men continue to adopt pubic grooming, particularly in light of conflicting conveniences of doing it vs not, of feeling scrutinized by partners, the ongoing influence of porn (where shaving for men appears to be more and more common.)  And, of course, whether their partners do or don't groom theirs.  And why.

The (Rare but Real) Hazards of "Cosmetic" Shaving and Waxing

Thu, 2011-07-28 22:31

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Feminist Law Professors says

Call it willful blindness, but I hadn’t seen this 2007 article from the Clinical Infectious Diseases journal (Oxford University).  Here is an excerpt from Severe Complications of a ‘Brazilian’ Bikini Wax:

Waxing . . . is the most common method for extensive depilation, and complications include burns, mechanical folliculitis, infectious folliculitis, other infections of skin and soft tissues, and contact dermatitis and/or vulvitis. Removal of hair causes skin microtrauma, with inoculation of pathogens and subsequent mechanical spread of infection. A recent systematic review of surgical site infections found that shaving resulted in more infections than clipping, presumably because the skin was not breached with clippers. Infecting organisms can be from autoinoculation of skin or vaginal flora and group A streptococci are known to colonize the vagina. Infecting bacteria can include S. aureus and Pseudomonas aeruginosa, and other potential pathogens include human papilloma virus, molluscum contagiosum, dermatophytes (such asTrichophyton ton- surans) resulting in Majocchi granuloma, and more unusual fungi, such as Sporothrix schenckii, which has been reported following electrolysis.

Citations omitted.  Read the full article here.

Source: Feminist Law Professors

Yes to this. These complications all sound exactly like the ones men face when we shave our... well... faces. It doesn't look like they mentioned MRSA in the section Prof. Crawford quoted but that's a risk too. For men it's a problem enough that athletes have been advised for years not to do "cosmetic shaving" in locker rooms (where too many men often have to share too few sinks when they're in too big a hurry to get out.) It's easy to see how similar problems would arise in waxing salons or even (as her quote suggests, during prep for surgery!)

In practice those complications are usually very rare, and women may be as likely to continue shaving as men do. But there is a risk and it can seem pretty big for strictly cosmetic benefits.

Since Nobody Carries a Purse While Running, Suzanne Reisman Asks Why Women's Shorts Don't Have Real Pockets

Sat, 2011-04-30 21:56

I always feel a little uncomfortable complaining about the differences between men's and women's clothes. On the one hand, "fashion" or design esthetics not withstanding, the quality, cleanability, and practicalities tend to be much lower than comparable articles for men, and stich for stitch and seam for seam they prices tend to be higher. On the other hand it doesn't seem to be true that women lack agency in their purchasing decisions, nor probable that women's actual buying habits have no correlation with the products designers, manufacturers, and retailers make available.

But when I go shopping with my 11-year-old daughter, compared to what was available for my son three years ago when he was 11 (he's now 14), I... gotta chafe about it. A lot.

Case in point, both my kids have ipod-sized hand-me-down smart phones. These fit effortlessly into the front pockets of my son's jeans. The same size phone sticks out of my daughter's jeans pockets because for some incredibly baroque reason girl-jeans pockets are only about three inches deep.

Anyway, since I don't feel comfortable about carping about it stand-alone I'm really, really happy to endorse the following post by Suzanne Reisman , who says

Dear Women’s Athletic Apparel Manufacturers:

I appreciate that you understand that women should be active and earn your livings by producing clothing to enable us ladies to engage in physical fitness. However, what is wrong with you? Most of you seem to produce clothing for men and women, and of course, the men’s gear is a jillion times better.

First off, almost all shorts made for men have pockets. You seem to understand that men carry shit with them – like keys and ID and money and music machines and maybe even inhalers or tissues – when they run. Guess what? Women need those items too! Especially asthmatic ones! Those little “key pockets” are nice for a key, but otherwise they are fucking bullshit. I need to carry my inhaler with me, just in case. Where shall I put it in your pocketless shorts?

This brings us to the length of shorts. Men’s shorts come in a variety of lengths, from the short running kind to straight legs that extend to their knees. Women’s shorts, on the other hand, come in two sizes: short and even shorter.

Source: Cuss and Other Rants

I know, I know, the theory is that it's just a waste of time putting pockets in women's slacks because everyone knows All Ladies Carry Purses Anyway. Except, you know, when they run or do sports. So WTF is the deal with women's athletic shorts then?

Coke Talk on a Completely Different Way Breast Implants May Not Be For You

Fri, 2011-01-14 23:54

Coke Talk's lowdown on someone for running down breast implants.

With your skanky brand of gender politics, of course you don’t see the point. Fuck you for even suggesting that it has anything to do with what you like to grope.

Source: Dear Coke Talk

Having been of the same opinion that fashion in general and boobs in particular were all about me -- that since I thought they looked and felt funny people shouldn't get them -- I appreciate Coke Talk's sentiment a lot more now than I would have then.

Same would be true if I instead thought implants were sexxxay.  They're still pretty much almost never for me.

That's not to say that as well as perfectly good and perfectly neutral reasons there are plenty of questionable reasons to get implants.  Or other body modifications.  Just that those reasons for questioning it have nothing to do with my personal opinion, my personal judgment, or my personal preferences.  Or anyone else's.

Bent Knees Not the Bee's Knees for Figleaves

Wed, 2010-09-29 07:50

"Nice Legs, Chaps," from Flickr user MadAboutCows
Photo by Flickr user Katie Stein. Used under a Creative Commons license.

So last weekend I wound up not only out of the house in the late evening but on my way to a restaurant in a trendy part of downtown. While cruising for parking we saw a number of majorly decked-out pedestrians heading towards one of the popular nightclubs. Maybe it’s because it’s been unseasonably warm for the usually chilly Pacific Northwest, or maybe it’s just because I don’t get out enough, but I noticed many of the women were wearing very short skirts and extremely high high-heeled shoes.

Call me a fuddy-duddy, or an incompletely reconstructed ex-hippie, or maybe just a prudish libertine but…

I know the idea behind high heels is they’re supposed to be sexy. But my very strong impression is that those things are pretty much impossible to walk around in without a kind of weird bent-knee gait that’s… actually a little more alarming than sexy to watch. Update: I ought to add that by “alarming” I don’t necessarily mean “oh those poor dears might fall over at any moment. “ Because obviously with just a little practice let alone longtime use even high heels are perfectly navigable. Nor am I referring to various reports of bunions, shortened tendons, and other potential medical complications. The people I usually see wearing high heels are capable, intelligent, coordinated adults who are perfectly aware of what they’re doing and why. I just mean I’m alarmed to be so evidently out of touch that walking on bent legs with your arms waiving around for balance just seems gawky and uncoordinated to me. Instead of cool, svelte, and drop-dead alluring.

And yeah, I know and appreciate the argument* that on many, many levels the way fashion is supposed to work is for the benefit of the wearer, and that the opinions of onlookers are supposed to be somewhere between irrelevant and intrusive. But…

I don’t know. I’m more of a fan of things that make knees weak and feet point and toes curl naturally. None of which, outside of certain branches of BDSM, involve trying to stay upright while crossing broken pavement.

That’s totally my personal, maybe even idiosyncratic opinion. There’s plenty of room in comments for opposing views. I’ll happily stand corrected.

* See Phoebe Maltz of What Would Phoebe Do for a far more nuanced take on who fashion is and isn’t for.

IgNobel-Winning Emergency Bra Only Almost as Silly as it Sounds

Tue, 2010-09-28 05:48

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Jennifer Welsh of Discover Magazine’s Discoblog says


The Emergency Bra, which won both the Ig Nobel prize in public health and a spot on TIME’s list of the Worst Inventions of 2009 is now available through the website, www.ebbra.com for $29.99.

She said it here.

According to Welsh, Elena Bodnar got the idea in the aftermath of the Chernobyl disaster in her native Ukraine where, in the first hours after the reactor meltdown when air for miles around was full of Iodine-131 and other radioactive particles, more gas masks and particle filters would have prevented more radiation sickness.

As for the bra itself, aside from slightly more filter-friendly material it sounds like the only real differences between Bodnar’s bra and a regular bra are extra clasps to make it easier to take apart and to turn the straps into headbands. Which suggests that in a pinch any old slightly padded bra might be useable in an emergency.

Would it be a much, much better idea just to keep a couple of regular old disposable particle masks around for emergences? Sure. And if you’re so concerned about possible particle-inhalation emergencies that you’d buy a special safety bra it would still be better to keep a regular filter on you… but not literally on you.

But I can see how if you were a survivor of Chernobyl and its aftermath I can see how inventing an emergency bra might… ok it still sounds silly. But not feel quite as silly.

Blast From the Past: A Post About the Search for Matching Bras and Panties for Small-Busted Adult Women

Sun, 2010-09-19 09:56

A few years ago I remember reading that the average dress size for American woman is now 12 or 14 (can't remember) and the average bra size is now D.

It's rather well-established that the fashion industry very shabbily serves the fashion interests of average size, let alone above-average sizes. It's less well-established that the industry also shabbily serves adult women who are undersized.

Back when my blog was more about the ins and outs of sex than the cultural influences and consequences of it I was online friends with a number of women bloggers who were highly fashion-conscious but very small breasted. Small-breasted in the specific sense that the "foundation garment" industry didn't produce bras, slips, camisoles, or lingerie in general that simultaneously a) looked sexy but also b) fit them.

While surfing to see who was referring to my site this morning I ran across vintage erotica collector Silent Porn Star. I'd lost track of her years ago but as of March 2010 she seems to be back.) Anyway, while catching up with posts (she's interested in everything from naughty embroidery to cheesie "nudist camp" jigsaw puzzles to scholarly analysisPaul Klee and sexual fluidity) I noticed she kept referencing the author of the vintage lingerie blog Slip of a Girl.

And to get back to the original point of this post, I ran across Slip of a Girl's post Smaller Busted Or Know Someone Who Is? An Exclusive Interview With Lula Lu Petite Lingerie Designer Ellen Shing! Shing owns what Slip of a Girl says is the only retail shop in the U.S. and Canada that caters to small-busted women of all heights and sizes.

[SoaG] As a larger busted woman, and indeed a larger woman in general (actually, I am average size, but you know how fashion goes!), I've often been frustrated with way sizes are created. If I'm unhappy with the poor fit of the ill-conceived "just add a few inches all over," I imagine the problems are similar with "just shrink it all over." How does Lula Lu actually address the proper lingerie sizing for petite women?

[Shing] We don't start with a 34B, like many bra companies do for the fit of our bras as it makes no sense as we haven't even really added B cups to our collection! We start with AA cups and work our way up a little to an A cup and down a little to a AAA cup to keep things accurate. We keep the range of our sizes focused and test the size samples on actual women of each size to make sure they fit well. Having said that, no bra can ever fit everyone perfectly in a particular size because everyone's built differently and thus the bras will wear differently on women's bodies (and you also have to account for everyone's different tastes on how they would like to appear in a bra).<

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[SoaG] Do you feel that the American obsession with big breasts (and implants) have negatively impacted not only the smaller-busted, perhaps, with self-esteem issues, but lingerie companies and retailers too — resulting in offering less options for those women with petite bustlines?

[Shing] Most of my customers are happy with their body type and bust size and they just feel defeated by the actual bra shopping experience when they realize that they cannot find anything that fits them or are told to go to the children's department. I think the biggest misconception about women with small busts is that the all want to appear like they have a big bust. It's not true and a lot of my customers like their shape and just want some bras that fit well. Read the whole interview here.

A lot of my old blogging friends have moved on, their sites are now dark, and I don't know how many of them still read me. And if they do I'm sure they'll be tickled that I'd stick with the issues of sizing lingerie instead of, oh, maybe what Shing's products actually look like and whether I think they're sexy (they look nice, I think they're sexy.)

Not everyone cares about fashion, but some people do. And like most people in general, most of those who do care about fashion don't have the standard 34B body industry seems to insist on designing for. There's been more activism lately to get industry to begin accommodating actual average bodies. But it's nice that someone's taking the interests of "minus" sized women, most of whom also aren't model shaped seriously.

Phil Plait on "Boobquake:" The Risks of Combining Probability and Gullability

Mon, 2010-04-26 14:10

In case you didn’t need other reasons to be skeptical of today’s proposed “boobquake” response to (yet another) religious leader’s claim that women’s immodesty brings down the wrath of god, Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy point out a strictly pragmatic, statistical problem that…

...has to do with the number of earthquakes around the world. Here is a table from the USGS giving the number of earthquakes per year listed by magnitude:

As you’d expect, there are very few huge quakes, and a lot of little ones. We expect to rack up maybe one quake more powerful than magnitude 8 in a year, but on average we get one in the magnitude 6 – 6.9 range every couple of days somewhere in the world, and one in the 5 – 5.9 range something like three to five times every day. That’s every few hours!

And there’s the weakness in the Boobquake plan. The idea of Boobquake is to debunk the cleric by saying that women can reveal their boobs and not start a seismic event (ignoring perhaps the tremors caused by geek guys habitually running to their computers every few minutes and checking for updates). But without defining the time period, the earthquake size, and the region in advance, this can actually reinforce the cleric’s claims! Given the huge tracts of land involved, no matter when women of the world unveil their decolletage, there is bound to be a magnitude 5 quake within an hour or so of the event, and a mag 6 quake within a day.

We also know that supernatural thinking makes people see correlations where none exist, and to also retroactively assign credit after an event to something that happened before it. They cling desperately to such measures like a drowning man to a life preserver. And when the parameters (like time and size) aren’t defined in advance, that makes uncritical thinking easier. If there is even a modest earthquake today, then that cleric can declare victory. If there’s a big quake, then it’s more like sending that drowning man a motorboat!

He said it here.

Of course a table similar to the USGS earthquake table could be drawn showing the number of dire imprecations and condemnations made by clerics, ministers, rabbis, priests, shamans, and right-wing pundits blaming women or LGBT people for earthquakes and, well, everything they think is wrong with the world. Although it would be a much bigger table. Which means on any given day it’s damned if you do and damned if you don’t. And as the Alice character in the Dilbert comic said years ago, “if success is impossible then… I’m… free! The result will be the same no matter what I do.” So today, just like any other day, wear whatever you wanted to wear anyway.

Dumb (Gender) Question: Do Only Men Dress Like "Toolbags?"

Wed, 2010-04-21 06:05

Not sure why this popped into my head on the way back to my hotel this evening — San Francisco residence being generally stylishly understated dressers and all — but…

While it’s mostly women who get judged by their appearance (sometimes literally judged!) the dominant complaint leveled against men is http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Toolbag”>looking like a toolbag. (Or, less politely, like “douchebags,” as in the website Hot Chicks with Douchebags.) Or, I think, more accurately, like losers!

The cocky men’s fashion site Magnificent Bastard lists the Top 10 Ways to Look Like a Total Toolbag, with the winners including backwards ball caps, bluetooth ear pieces, gold necklaces, Crocks shoes, and reading National Review magazine in public.

All well and good, I guess. But… surely it’s not only men who have no fashion sense to lack. But you really don’t see that many women singled out for looking like toolbags, douchebags, or losers. “Bimbos,” sluts, or “loose,” yes. So last year, yes. The closest I think you’re going to get (though of course please correct me) might be accusations of having a suburban PTA meeting look (a cell phone clipped to the belt would surely complete that ensemble, no?)

But for women the closer one gets to the equivalent of the male toolbag look the more half-hearted and ineffective criticism tends to get. Half-hearted, incidentally, in the same way criticism of men who try to dress sexily (see criticism of figure skater Johnny Weir, for intance) becomes attenuated and ineffective. Possibly because, maybe, I think, both the nerdy woman and the flamboyant man look fit the “that makes them look gay/lesbian” stereotypes.

A woman who “dresses like a hooker,” or a man dressed like Spanky from “Our Gang,” aren’t dressing to fit the stereotyped expectations and/or demands of heterosexuality. And inside heterosexuality if women look desiring of men instead of merely desirable to them, say, or men look wealthy or capable but not worthy they are doing it wrong.

Thoughts?

The Beauty Trap: Fitness Vs. Fashion and Who Sets Standards of Beauty and Who's It All Supposed to Be For Anyway?

Tue, 2010-01-26 23:34

Ok, so I feel really uncomfortable going here because it takes me back to when I was, like, a horny 17-year-old boy… and because it’s about fashion, which is always sort of a loaded issue but…

In a very cool post on body/mass indexes, working out vs. dieting, and standards of attraction Amanda Marcotte over at Pandagon said

“...a lot of women polled still found women like Alba attractive, but 41% said that muscles are never attractive on women. 72% said they don’t think men find muscles on women attractive, and 77% said that they don’t think women find them attractive.”

Read the rest of her excellent post here.

S’cuse me but… this is going to sound like male privilege out the wazoo or something (I promise it’s not) but… but… who gives a crap what women think other women should look like?!?

I ask because it’s certainly the case that women appear to care hugely more about how other women look than men do. And also appear to care hugely more about how other women think they look than how men think they look.

If I was an MRA or something I’d snuffle about how it’s so unfair that Teh Feminists blame men for forcing women into unhealthy diets, uncomfortable shoes, entire toxic waste dumps full of cosmetics and hair products and (worst of all in my opinion anyway) clothes without pockets that… cost two to five times as much to purchase as men’s and two to ten times as much to (dry!) clean. When, as this survey shows, women are full of the harsh towards other women.

Of course I’m not an MRA so I’ll go with stuff Hegel, or Naomi Wolfe, or Susie Orbach and say something about the feminine beauty trap which, like the corresponding masculine worthiness trap is a product of our self-criticism and self-policing in the face of our gendered expectations. And that is sure seems like there’s sort of the opposite of that stupid joke about bears and running shoes where we tell ourselves if we’re going to get the man/woman/whatever of our dreams we can’t just meet the typical non-gendered threshhold of attractiveness to the opposite gender and instead perceive that we have to beat everyone else who might also be interested in them. With the result that we’re more acutely attuned to the nuances of… whatever gender trap is assigned to us than members of the opposite sex are ever likely to be…

...with the result that, ironically, we’re likely to be more judgmental of, and have higher standards for, ourselves and our peers than the prospective partners we’re allegedly competing for. Which is why I think it’s an escalating trap. To the point that, say, women can wind up saying things like “don’t kiss me I just did my hair” and men say things like “I can’t come home now, I’m not earning enough to keep you happy” that are objectively dumb but subjectively make perfect sense to them.

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But what I really wanted to say was I think it’s weird that the report would gather statistics on whether other women think buff women are unattractive. Which goes back, I think, to me being gender, and probably cis- and all kinds of other privileged after all. Because when I hear “women are” attractive/unattractive/whatever I automatically append “to men.” As if that was the only criteria that matters. And I’m not sure it’s a good excuse that that really is supposed to be what the whole attractiveness industry is predicated on.

And now after saying that I’m going to add that I think 77% of women are out of their minds if they don’t think men think muscles on women are attractive. It’s as dumb as saying 77% of men think women aren’t interested in men who don’t have… I dunno… high-paying jobs or something. Because I’m pretty sure a heck of a lot fewer than 77% of men think buff women are unattractive. I mean, seriously, I don’t get it.

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One more thing: in comment #29 to Amanda’s post La Lubu said: “Women’s clothing—-outside of workout clothes—-doesn’t come in an ‘athletic’ cut the way men’s clothing does.” That part certainly is true. In the past I spent a lot of time doing pool aerobics with athletes recovering from knee, foot, and leg injuries and it’s certainly true that contemporary women’s clothes, ironically, don’t seem to “flatter” fit women’s bodies as well as they do women who aren’t as fit. Except, I guess, in the pool or at the beach.

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Things like this make you wonder who invented heterosexuality anyway? I mean, I like being heterosexual and all but wow, for something that’s supposed to be “how nature made us” we end up doing a lot of embarrassing things to ourselves and each other.

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