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On My 8th Anniversary I've Finally Connected My 1st Post And My 2nd Bogus Rule of Desire

Posted by figleaf on Mon, 2013-01-21 00:31

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So eight years ago today I began this blog with the following post

Regarding Cock-suckers
Posted by figleaf on Thu, 2005-01-20 08:49

Cock-sucker: The term has many unfortunate uses and connotations, which is a shame since very very few of the connotations have anything to do with actually sucking cock. Let’s go one step further. Just as boys in the lockeroom stop bragging about sex as soon as they actually begin having it, it’s hard to use cock-sucker as an epithet once you’ve met someone who knows how to do it.

Even before I wrote that first post I'd been puzzled by "cocksucker" as a nigh-unto-nuclear taunt and insult. Because first because it's so frequently said by men, and so often said about women. What always seemed so weird about it was that second of all... well... most men kind of enjoy getting them!

This morning I finally figured it out. Which just goes to show I'm either a slow learner or else pretty indoctrinated into something I posted about a few years later.

A few years later I wrote what's turned out to be a productive for me and modestly popular post

The Bogus Two Rules of Desire (a.k.a. the Shorter No-Sex Class Paradigm)
Posted by figleaf on Fri, 2009-01-30 10:29

Over the years I've written hundreds of entries for my "no-sex" class category. Without ever feeling I'd gotten it exactly right.

Then one day I got a brainstorm and streamlined it to two basic, bogus, but amazingly deeply ingrained rules.

  • It is simultaneously inconceivable and intolerable for a woman to have sexual desire.
  • It is simultaneously inconceivable and intolerable for a man to be sexually desired.

I hadn't put it together before, eh. The reason that a) men generally enjoy receiving fellatio while b) using it as an insult most vile would be c) that second bogus rule of desire, right?

Sigh.

That it's taken me this long to twig to something both as vexing and as obvious as that just shows how far I've still got to go.

That it's actually still true that it's inconceivable enough to imagine that no one would ever desire to perform fellatio, and that it's actually still true that it's intolerable that there are those who nevertheless do, and that it's men ourselves who are most likely to condemn it socially (even while perhaps enthusiastically receiving them in private) shows how far society still needs to go.

The good news, actually, is that in the last eight years the inviolability of both Rules have softened considerably, particularly among those who've come of age in that time. It's not likely another President would be impeached for receiving one. And increasingly it's no longer barkingly taboo, let alone illegal, that men who desire to perform fellatio on each other might finally marry each other, as women who sexually desire each other may. It's been years since I've heard anyone (mostly my generation or older) imply or outright state that fellatio is not vanilla. Even longer since I've heard anyone imply that only a "closet homosexual" would let his female partner "go down" on him. Or that only a "fallen woman" or one who didn't "care about herself" would willingly (let alone enthusiastically) do so.

So. Progress in one dimension anyway.

But people still use the epithet.

And mean it.

Maybe in the next eight years we'll grow past it.


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Do Hetero Frames of Reference Contribute to Shy and/or Insulting Attitudes About Receiving Oral Sex?

Posted by figleaf on Tue, 2010-11-02 08:59

Writing for the Good in Bed column at Lemondrop, Ian Kerner has a pretty good take on a common anxiety about receiving oral sex. This one’s from a woman but it goes both ways. Here’s the question and the beginning of Kerner’s answer:

[Q] I’m afraid to let a guy to go down on me because I’ve heard men don’t like performing oral sex. Is it true?

[A] This couldn’t be further from the truth. As the author of “She Comes First” (an entire book that’s basically one long ode to the joys of cunnilingus), I can honestly say that the vast majority of men that I’ve spoken with (and I’ve had the chance to speak to thousands of ‘em) take a gung-ho “viva la vulva” attitude when it comes to going down on their female partners.

In fact, many men complain that they’re not the ones with the issue. As it turns out, many women, like yourself, worry that guys don’t really enjoy going down, or you worry that you’re taking too long, or that your smell/taste might be unappealing.

Source: Lemon Drop

I think a more nuanced way to put this is to say that while there are certainly some men who don’t like to eat their partners there are more women who are anxious enough about their partner’s experience of eating them to not enjoy it themselves. And while fellatio’s near-universality in porn creates a buffer I happen to think the same thing is true for a lot of men and fellatio.

This is another one of those intuition-only hunches but I’m curious whether concern about being eaten is more common among heteros. I wonder because I’ve been thinking about frames of reference lately and it seems like it would be pretty easy for a straight person to project their own ambivalence to eating someone of their own sex into an assumption that everyone else (whether male, bi, or lesbian) would share their ambivalence.

I wonder further that self-referencing ambivalence in hetero men accounts for the unfortunate tendency to associate blowjobs with denigration, as in the epithet “cocksucker.” Which for some reason I don’t think is as common either among hetero women or bi and gay men.

As always your thoughts are welcome. I’m not sure what field of study this would fall under (linguistics? psychology? gender studies?) but if you’ve got links or citations I’d love to know more.


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My Reply for the Question "For Guys Who Give Oral Sex, What's the Appeal?" For Em and Lo's Wise Guy Feature

Posted by figleaf on Tue, 2010-07-13 16:34

I’m on rotation in the popular “Ask the Wise Guys” feature at Em & Lo This week’s question was

“For guys who like to give oral sex, what’s the appeal? What differentiates them from the guys who seem to hate giving it?”

Read the other Wise Guy responses here.

Here’s how I answered:

I’m going to go out on a limb and say guys who find it appealing enjoy it for the same reasons women who enjoy it like eating their partners. It involves all our senses — sight, sound, hearing, taste, touch, and scent. It’s sensual and pleasurable the same way kissing a partner’s lips and face is. We like it because we’re right there so it’s easy to tell the effect we’re having. And because we know it can feel really, really nice for our partner. Also it’s a skill and because you can always learn something new about doing it. And it’s just cool to feel present and in control while your partner’s dissolving into inarticulate quivers. In other words, as I said, it’s for the same reasons many women say they like going down on their partners.

For guys who hate it? Again I’m guessing it’s not that different for women who don’t like giving either. You feel obliged. Your partner won’t do it to you unless you do it to them. You heard somewhere you’re supposed to. You don’t like the taste, or the smell, or the feeling of someone’s private parts pushing into your face. You have bad associations with it. You think it’s undignified or unbecoming or inappropriate or exploitive. You think it’s a necessary step on the way to “the real thing” so you want to get it over with as quickly as possible. You think if either you or maybe they “were any good” you’d both be satisfied with “real” sex, i.e. intercourse. In other words, much like the same reason some women don’t want to go down on their partners.

Just as it’s nice to enjoy receiving or giving, it’s also okay not to. Not everyone likes to go down, and not everyone likes to be gone down on. Just don’t pretend.


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Oral Sex is Sex: Since Pleasant Associations Aren't Reminder Enough, Jayme Waxman Takes a Different Approach

Posted by figleaf on Thu, 2010-04-08 14:39

Summary: An article in WebMD says only 20% of young adults believe oral sex “counts” as sex. Jayme Waxman sets the record straight.

While I’m not completely enthusiastic about the close association between sex and disease Jayme Waxman of Sex Matters does use it in a good cause:

I just want to go on record and say oral sex is sex. That means BJ’s and CJ’s (blow jobs and clit jobs – a term I hope I just made up, but I’m sure I didn’t, still it’s what I’m calling cunnilingus from now on, as in from right now on) are sex. You can get sexually transmitted infections like gonorrhea and chlamydia form oral sex, and you can give and receive herpes and HPV that way too.

Read the quote in context here.

And yes, yes, she could also have mentioned another forgone association: that both giving and receiving oral sex is a source of sexual enjoyment. For whatever reason that never really seems to come up in conversations involving definitions of sex. So kudos to Waxman for punctuating the bottom line: oral sex is sex.


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Mia of Sexpertise on Fellatio and Vegetarianism

Posted by figleaf on Thu, 2010-03-04 12:21

Mia of the interesting and, I think, fairly new Sexpertise website addresses a fascinating question: should vegetarians swallow semen?

...semen is a product of an animal (like an egg), but not the flesh of an animal (like meat) and not a substance whose production causes cruelty to animals (unlike the miserable dairy cows in PETA commercials, I have a feeling your semen was harvested with your enthusiastic consent). It contains glandular fluid and single cells, also known as sperm. Depending on your girlfriend’s reasons for being vegetarian, it is possible that she could logically conclude that semen is off-limits. Or, maybe she just doesn’t like it.

Read the quote in context here.

The question was asked by a young man who seems to be clear that some people don’t like to swallow, and doesn’t mind that his partner doesn’t swallow his. He’s just intrigued by the reason.

I know I’m hopelessly out of date on the, er, ins and outs of vegetarianism but in addition to the ethical-vegetarian reasons Mia reminds us of there are, among other major schools of though, health-minded vegetarians who are wary of eating animals because, being higher on the food chain, they can carry higher loads of accumulated metals and other toxins plus they can be exposed to artificial hormones, environmental hormone precursors, and anti-biotics.

In other words she could be declining to swallow not so much because she’s a vegetarian per se but because he, like pretty much every other human being on the planet any more, isn’t organic.

Something to think about.

Lest this sound silly or esoteric (ok, worrying that a partner’s semen isn’t vegetarian/organic is least a little silly) there’s considerable concern about metals and other toxins in breast milk.

Also lest the question sound silly Mia wisely closes on a serious note:

Since it doesn’t sound as if the actual act of swallowing is a big deal to you, I would suggest getting yourself out of this semantic black hole. Communicate to your girlfriend that you understand and respect her right to decide what goes into her body, whether you agree with her rationale or not. I don’t know if your girlfriend is making excuses, as you say, but if for some reason she feels that simply saying she doesn’t like swallowing isn’t good enough, then you have a communication problem. You can remedy this by showing her that you appreciate her right to make her own choices in the bedroom, and that you care about her enjoyment and comfort more than you care about this disagreement.

Sound advice in all events.


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Pardon My Skepticism For Health Claims Related to "Vitamin BJ"

Posted by figleaf on Wed, 2009-07-22 21:19

Teresa Strasser of MomLogic says

If you’re thinking about conceiving, or certainly if you are already pregnant, there is some pretty convincing evidence that instead of just swallowing, say, folic acid, you might want to swallow something else.

Let me be delicate about this, if I can.

As far as I can tell, not only should you be having lots of oral sex with the father of your baby — even up to a year before conceiving — you should also make sure to ingest his seminal fluid. Listen to what I’m telling you: the international medical community is giving you an Rx for oral. Sure, they say frequent intercourse is good, too, but oral is better. So, if you care about having a healthy baby and not potentially unleashing what scientists call a “destructive attack on the foreign tissues” of your fetus, if you want to avoid immunological disorders during pregnancy, and I’m sure you do, get to work. Or to pleasure, depending on how you feel about it.

Basically, the research says you need to be able to tolerate your baby’s foreign, paternal DNA; in other words, you need to get your body accustomed to the stuff, need to cozy up to some daddy double helix for a while so your body doesn’t reject it.

She said it here.

Further down in the same post, though, Dr. Suzanne Gilberg-Lenz, also of MomLogic says that’s true if and only if a single, very small study by a non-specialist counts as “the international medical community.”

Maybe I have not been attending grand rounds enough and am out of date — but I NEVER learned about this benefit of oral sex in medical school or residency, or at any of those fancy continuing medical education conferences!

So while my search was far from exhaustive, I checked out a few of the wiki sources named in Teresa’s blog. The one academic paper that seems to support this supposed “immune maladaption theory of preeclampsia” is in fact published in one of our most esteemed peer-reviewed journals, but it is a small study and, no offense, was authored by a resident … and the bigger, better controlled study with more than 2,000 subjects published in another peer-reviewed journal concludes otherwise. So, if you like, swallow, and if you do not … please do whatever it is that you do with undesired contents of the oral cavity

Care to guess which way most of the comments on the post go? Suddenly being skeptical about a very dubious study makes Gilbert-Lenz a prude? Or “a feminist,” as if that was a bad thing?

I think fellatio feels very nice, and I agree that it’s lovely when a partner swallows. I also think there’s no, zero, none chance the study demonstrates that “gastrointestinal absorption of semen” is the best way to establish immunological tolerance. Or anything of the sort.

That’s a good thing, too. Because from the look of it the cluster of related papers all say the immunological effect seems to be related to substances in semen, not sperm. Which would suggest another, even more reliable way to avoid preeclampsia would be to altogether avoid contact with semen, period. So.

Quick question for anyone hoping Dr. Gilberg-Lenz is a spoilsport: would you be as credulous about a similarly small, obscure study claiming preeclampsia could be avoided through total lifetime abstinence except specifically for procreation? No? Good call.

I mean, it sounds like a good call. She says clearly, if a bit medically, “so, if you like, swallow, and if you do not … please do whatever it is that you do with undesired contents of the oral cavity.” Do it if you already like to, otherwise don’t force yourself is feminist advice, sure, but it’s pretty good advice period.

For instance what if an “international medical community” of one claimed that “gastrointestinal absorption of semen” was the best way for men to avoid prostate cancer instead? How many straight-oriented men do you think would start swallowing semen? Even if their wives emailed them the links? Even if their wives reminded them that prostate cancer leads all other forms in men? Are those crickets chirping? I thought so.

If you look at this (or, obviously any other sex-related recommendation) from an it-could-happen-to-me perspective “swallow if you want to but don’t let anyone force you if you don’t” starts sounding pretty good for everybody. Feminism’s good for everybody.

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Finally, despite admonitions about not looking gift horses in the mouth and all I think it would be weird to find out one’s partner’s suddenly interest in oral sex turned out to be about her enjoyment, or her interest in my enjoyment, but because she was thinking about its medicinal properties.

I mean, yeah, inside the fantasyland where “men just need a place to have sex, women need a reason“ womanly/maternal/feminine concern for health is great “leverage” for sex. But… first of all eww, and second of all I’m really, really tired of the Two Rules of Desire where men are incapable of being desired, and women of desiring them… and where it’s inconceivable that a man might receive a blowjob because a woman wanted to give him one.

Update:

Me? As much fun as it is for you when someone lovingly kisses his way down your body… from your lips to your neck to your shoulders and breasts… gingerly across your belly and then down further, lingering longer and longer while your eyelids flutter and your breath quickens and… Ahem, where was I? Oh yeah, as much fun as it might be for you, one of the pleasures of eating you for your partner is that he gets to be the reason for your… well… flutters and sighs. And that he enjoys the way you look, the way you taste, the way you feel against and in his mouth… the way her legs flex… and quiver… rise… and squeeze or thump his shoulders.

And so much as I enjoy the same trail of kisses down to my naughty bits, and don’t notice my curled-toenail marks further kisses bring, it’s hard to believe the common belief that being the source of my murmers and sighs and shortened breath might not be just as enjoyable for a partner… or that she wouldn’t enjoy the way I look, the way I taste, the way I feel against and in her mouth, and the way my legs stretch out… the way my muscles tense… the way my hips roll and surge up against palms of her hands.

I mean… in the broadest terms could one gender really get less enjoyment from that than another? Could it be that the only motivation for one might be it’s possible medicinal value?


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Dumb Question About Oral Sex

Posted by figleaf on Sun, 2009-02-22 21:09

For those who’ve done both, is fellatio any harder or easier than cunnilingus? And/or more or less enjoyable?

The question popped into my head halfway down an aisle at the grocery store while I was doing my weekly shopping. I’d been thinking about that Em & Lo wise-guys either/or question post about intercourse vs. fellatio and…

...it suddenly occurred to me that since most of my partners, especially when I was younger, tended to like intercourse but love cunnilingus I wonder if maybe it’s no surprise that so many men tend to say… they like intercourse but love fellatio. Men’s and women’s preferences being, folklore notwithstanding, more alike than different that would make sense.

So anyway, while in retrospect it seems like there are a lot of other considerations, the first thing I thought was that probably depends on whether fellatio or cunnilingus is objectively easier or harder than the other.

Rather than guess I thought I’d just ask. So…

If you’ve done both, is one any harder or easier than the other? And/or more or less enjoyable?

Thanks.


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The No-Sex Class and Duty Before Pleasure

Posted by figleaf on Fri, 2009-01-23 20:20

In an always interesting regular feature, Lo of Em & Lo: Sex. Love. And Everything in Between. runs a statement from a reader to a panel of three men to see how they respond.

“I really hate going down on guys. I’ve tried it, I don’t like it. In fact, I loathe it. I feel bad about it, but if I don’t expect oral in return (I don’t), then why should I feel compelled to do something I don’t enjoy?”

Read the quote in context here.

Yeah, feeling obliged to do something we hate during sex is just the best… um… way to… stay enthusiasti…

Um, no. That doesn’t really work, eh?

And, yeah, getting a blowjob from someone who’s half-hearted, hurried, and so not into it her mouth is cold is just such a… great feeli…

Um, no, that’s not so hot either.

I think the difference is that men have this idea that your no doesn’t mean “no, I don’t enjoy it,” it means “no, I’m holding something back.” Stupid I know. But since it’s just not true that “there’s no such thing as a bad blowjob” and since one of the best ways to get a bad blowjob is to pressure someone who isn’t into it in the first place then… it’s not about the physical sensation it’s about feeling like they’re somehow getting “all” of you.

Question is then do you really want to keep hanging out with a guy who thinks he’s getting more intimate with you by… pressuring and/or pining you till you do something you hate doing?

One of the panelists, identified as Gay Engaged Guy (Joel Derfner, author of Swish), had an excellent point…

If you don’t like going down on guys, there’s absolutely no reason you should feel compelled to do so. However, there’s also absolutely no reason a guy should feel compelled to keep dating you if you won’t go down on him. You just have to find somebody who gets his kicks in other ways. The pool will be much smaller, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t, um, fish to be had.

...that goes even better in the other direction. Sure, if a guy thinks it’s his privilege that you go down on him then yeah, he doesn’t have to stay with you… but… you really want to stay with him?

There are actually plenty of men who won’t pass one up if offered but who don’t think a blowjob is the Holy Grail. So why waste your time (not to mention compromising the quality of your sexual enjoyment) on someone who does?

Another panelist, Straight Married Guy (Matt) took a more conventional line “But wouldn’t giving the occasional (special occasion) blowjob be a little easier than banking on these super longshot odds?”

Eh. While I think it’s a fairly common strategy, saving up something you really hate for special occasions probably isn’t going to make it that much more special for you.

Here’s the thing, and no, it’s not a secret back door ploy to get disinclined women go give blowjobs after all: for a lot of people, not just women, not just men, feeling obliged to do something is enough of a buzzkill threshhold that you never get to where you might not mind it or might even enjoy it.

I don’t know about women doing it for men so much but I’ve certainly heard men say they they eat their girlfriends only for something in return. And they hate that too. Meanwhile like a lot of other men** I think eating a partner is fun all by itself because even if it wasn’t pretty, and tasty, and intimate, and sexy it’s really cool when someone is writhing and shuddering and panting your name. And for people, men and women, if you’re just feeling resentful it’s hard to register any of that. All of which means that if Em and Lo’s correspondent finds a partner who’s just not that into being eaten it might give her enough space to enjoy it. And if not? No big deal.

[** Sabina of Y Tu Hermano Tambien has a good post on men who are into being eaten vs. men who’d rather eat their partners. —fl]


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Fellatio as Role Reversal

Posted by figleaf on Wed, 2009-01-14 18:55

Catching up on my newsreader backlog it seems like there’ve been are a lot of posts about blowjobs in the last week or so. Occasionally by men saying “meh,” but also by women expressing considerable satisfaction with them.

I’m pretty critically aware of historical attitudes about fellatio. Nobody who came of age before attitudes began to change in, say, 1985 could avoid being aware of them. Enough so that while I’ve always enjoyed performing cunnilingus I actively avoided fellatio… and looked askance at partners who wanted to do it… and didn’t really learn how to enjoy it… until well into the 1980s and well into my 30s. (If you’re not old enough to remember the 1970s then count your blessings.)

Because back then whatever other problems people might have had with fellatio (the first big explosion of expressly as opposed to incidentally demeaning porn in the 1970s would be a big one) there was almost universal agreement that it was inappropriate… even demeaning (thus the emphasis in prostitution and porn) for women to engage actively, rather than receptively, in sex.

And whatever else you can say about it, and however legitimate Catharine MacKinnon’s legitimate but sometimes, um, overexpressed concerns are, fellatio is almost always about activity rather than passivity.

This obviously isn’t to say the only way to be non-passive around a partner with penis is to perform fellatio. (To be fair those other active roles also tended to be scowled at back in the day.) And so fellatio certainly needn’t be the only way… or even the way at all.

[Note: The more I write about this the more sure I am that I’ve said something like it before. But it’s not coming up in searches so I’ll keep going a bit longer. —fl]

At any rate, I’ve been thinking lately about ways heterosexuals can subvert traditional gender roles. And given that in our traditions masculinity is defined as almost entirely performative, and femininity as passive it’s worth listening to those who value doing it as to those who still believe it shouldn’t be done.

Because, especially if we look to the not-too-distant past, it’s important to ask “what’s the alternative?” Because I think, for a lot of people, women not performing blowjobs is preferred for suspiciously suspicious reasons.

A few obvious caveats:

  • Catharine MacKinnon’s concern that it can be traumatic when forced on the unprepared or unwilling is well-founded and too often disregarded.
  • The even broader concern that after the acceptability turnaround fellatio is too often considered an obligation for the provider, or an entitlement of the recipient, also requires more consideration than it’s often afforded.
  • The great thing about real adult sex is that regardless of peer pressure, social expectation, and even the desires of one’s partner is that nobody “should” do anything that doesn’t contribute to their own arousal as well as their partner’s. Therefore, for real adults, no one has to perform oral sex if they don’t want to. Nor, for real adults, no one should not perform oral sex if they do want to (and, duh, their partner is into receiving it.) The benefits of everyone doing only that which contributes to their own arousal and that of their partner(s) um, should be self-evident.
  • Following up on the previous two points, it’s also important to pay attention to those who’d rather not receive and even more important for recipients to listen to themselves and make sure they’re not receiving because they think everyone else enjoys it so they should be too.

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In Other News Even Though Some Love It, Not Everybody Likes Italian Food Either

Posted by figleaf on Thu, 2009-01-08 16:33

Via Rachel Kramer Bussel, John DeVore of The Frisky says in an article titled “Mouth Love Is Meh”

Blow jobs are overrated. There. I said it.

I think “meh” can be the right word. It’s not that there’s no such thing as a great blowjob, it’s that there’s not no such thing as one you don’t enjoy. (Key point: it doesn’t have to be their fault if you don’t enjoy it.)

What’s weird, or, maybe more accurately, significant, is that we feel compelled to duck rhetorically when we say it (as in “There. I said it.”) as if it was doctrinal heresy rather than a personal or even general insight.

I think DeVore, like me and like one of his commenters who said “Even if you don’t get off on mouth-love—and I rarely do—it still feels great,” are actually pretty average. Fellatio feels good; it’s hard to come that way… and therefore the doctrinal mania for receiving it comes from somewhere else.

Aside: about that “somewhere else.” Until not that long ago fellatio, in particular, was considered exceptionally coarse, the provenance of (then scorned) homosexuals and, oddly, of heterosexual lower/working-class customers of prostitutes. (For that matter it was often considered too coarse for prostitutes!**) Consequently no matter how nice it felt, nor how much fun it was to do, the barriers to either asking or giving were extraordinarily high. That, however, hasn’t been particularly true in mainstream culture for going on decades now. Yet the sense that it’s an accomplishment to receive one or, for that matter, a compromise to give one, persists. But I digress…

On the other hand the enjoyment in giving blowjobs, if it’s anything like my enjoyment of giving cunnilingus, makes a lot more sense: it’s fun, it’s a developable skill, and most important (and sort of reinforcing my point) it’s really great when you get it right. That last bit about “when you get it right,” when you think about it, belies the received wisdom that receiving oral is automatically the best sensation in the world.

Of course the same can be said, I believe, about cunnilingus… for many of the same reasons.

Anyway, any more than it’s true that the subset of those who enjoy receiving it overlaps perfectly those who’s partners enjoy performing it, neither is it true that the subset of those who feel “meh” about it overlaps perfectly those who’s partners don’t thoroughly enjoy doing it.

Point being

See also: Rachel Kramer Bussel for whom feeling “meh” about receiving fellatio is a deal breaker. And Britni Danielle who would far rather give than receive.

[** “...up to two decades ago Sydney prostitutes refused to offer French at all. The women expressed disgust at its suggestion and took affirmative action if the subject was raised. Lisa, who worked in the lanes in the 1960s, told me that at that time the guys just asked for straight sex and nothing else, no oral or anything, and if they did they would have got their heads kicked in. One girl got caught doing oral when I was on College Street (1950s) and she was smashed and left lying in the gutter.” Source: Working girls: prostitutes, their life, and social control/ Roberta Perkins
ISBN 0 642 15877 0 Canberra : Australian Institute of Criminology, 1991 (Australian studies in law, crime and justice series) —fl]


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