gay rights

Icon of Modern Skepticism James Randi Comes Out

Mon, 2010-03-22 16:25

Phil Plait of Discover Magazine’s Bad Astronomy blog says

James Randi — one of the founders of the modern skeptical movement, a leading rationalist, thinker, and fighter of antiscience — has made a big announcement: he’s gay.

He said it here.

Now the actual sexual orientation of James Randi is in one sense about as relevant as that of J.K. Rowling’s Professor Dumbledore. But as John Wilkins of Evolving Thoughts said of Rowling’s off-hand remark that her Dumbledore was gay

It is very relevant that Dumbedore is gay, although I suspect that Rowling might have been what we Australians call “stirring the possum”. What is not important about the fact that the person who has nothing but concern for the well-being of his charges, who sacrifices himself in a fight against total evil, and who sees clearly what the issues are when the “mainstream” fails to, is gay? It’s a major blow for normalisation of homosexuality.

It evades and revises the stereotypes against gays – they are not child abusers, they are socially aware and concerned and, hey, they are as brave as anyone can be in the face of evil. I say, good on Rowling.

He said it here.

And I say good on Randi for all the same reasons.

Duh! Why It's Not a Slippery-Slope From "Man-On-Man" Marriage to "Man-on-Dog" Marriage

Tue, 2010-03-16 12:17

Jeffe Fecke of Alas, a blog is as weirded out by J.D. Hayworth’s haste to leap into man-horse sex as I was earlier today.

So here’s something I don’t get: why is it that whenever people start talking about same-sex relations, members of the right instantly leap to bestiality? We all remember former Sen. Rick “Man On Dog” Santorum, R-Penn. Then there was Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, and his box turtle lovin’.

He said it here.

I can’t find a link at the moment but I’m pretty sure conservatives have also brought up the creepy prospect of NAMBLA members marrying juvenile boys variation as well. I can’t possibly, on the planet, be the only person to see it this way but…

The really, giant, big, distinguishing difference between grown men or women marrying each other, vs. Arizona Senate aspirants marrying their horses, is that the law already allows men and women to marry. Whereas, at least as far as I know, there are no provisions in law for horses to marry each other. Same with dogs. Same with box turtles. And for good reason. In civic if not celestial terms marriage is an establishment of fairly complex set of legal, contractual, tax, and property rights, including the establishment of legal inheritance and even powers of attorney. None of which, again to the best of my knowledge, are recognized in the case of animals.

Note: As for the NAMBLA scenario, Hayworth’s native Arizona already wisely prohibits marriage of children under the age of 18 without parental consent. Even with parental consent children can’t marry under age 16. Although, disturbingly, Arizona does permit children under age 16 to be married with the consent of the parents and approval of a superior court judge. (That last bit may be a nod to the state’s large child-marrying FLDS population.) To the extent a state wished to forestall the NAMBLA scenario they could simply update their child-marriage laws to 21st 20th Century standards. But I digress…

Point being that whereas legal marriage can (and should!) be easily extended to adults of the same sex with very trivial modifications of civic laws governing marriage adults who currently are allowed to marry each other, before people could marry animals it would first be necessary to establish all the other legal rights and responsibilities for animals that are now the domain only of humans.

Update: Although via Neatorama.com see also Injured Dog Checks Himself into Hospital. :-)

Gauging Hetero Sympathy for Gay Marriage by Association With "Associated" Practices?

Thu, 2009-04-09 23:09

Tyler Cowen of Marginal Revolution has an interesting hypothesis about who among married or marriage-inclined heterosexuals does and does not support gay marriage.

The interesting question is why there is so much opposition to legal gay marriage (which I favor).  You can cite various evil opponents and their evil motives, but there are many good people who aren’t all that enthusiastic about the idea.

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I have a simple hypothesis about the cross-sectional econometrics.  If you take the heterosexual couples who engage in the practice which is sometimes “associated” with male gay marriage, I predict those couples will favor legal gay marriage to an astonishingly high degree.  Their marriage is already “affiliated” with that practice, and so the notion of legally married gay men (and the practices which go along with that) does not constitute an extra and unwanted affiliation for their marriage ideal.

He said it here.

In a way it doesn’t matter exactly which “practice which is sometimes ‘associated’ with male gay marriage” he means. Although since he’s being so indirect I assume it’s something like fellatio or maybe ass play instead of more obviously common-to-both practices such as setting up wedding-gift registries at Target or working in the yard on weekends.

But if it doesn’t matter what practice he means it remains a good point. Even if they were generally tolerant and of good faith, couples that believed sex should be strictly limited to PIV intercourse when and only when reproduction is intended might also be anywhere from baffled (“but why would they want to have sex if they can’t reproduce”) to outraged. And meanwhile even conservative hetero couples who aren’t adherents of the other Victorian fetish (missionary/PIV-only/reproduction-only/lights-out/female-orgasm-denial) aren’t baffled by the appeal and so are more sanguine about the prospect of other people wanting to do it too. Whatever the mysterious “it” turned out to be.

Just because it’s logical doesn’t mean its true. But as hypotheses about social attitudes go it’s testable with off the shelf data gathering and analysis methods.

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Note: it’s possible I’m just being oblivious and everyone else but me knows what “‘associated’ practice” Cowen’s talking about.

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Update: See also the eternally pragmatic Matt Yglesias “...the more people see gay equality in practice, the less frightening it looks.” Which supports from the other direction my hunch that those mysterious “associated practices” really will turn out to be things like shared interest in gift registries and yard work.

And by your court decisions we shall know ye

Tue, 2007-08-21 16:49

Via Ann Bartow of Feminist Law Professors points to at least one dim ray of sunshine coming from the recent homophobic “defense of marriage act” fad in various states. After passage of such laws there was an equally distressing fad where criminal defendants sought to use such laws to avoid charges of heterosexual-but-unmarried domestic assault. Evidently the Ohio Supreme Court has nixed that defense and, even better, made it clear such protection extends to lesbian and gay domestic partners as well.

The Carswell case only required the court to determine whether Ohio’s new anti-gay marriage amendment nullified the legal protections unmarried victims of domestic abuse currently receive. The court declares there’s no conflict between the two legal provisions, giving unmarried, heterosexual women comfort – even a boost. Their legal rights against sex-based violence at men’s hands are, happily, secured. But so are the rights of victims of same-sex domestic abuse, including lesbians and gay men. Earlier decisions, undisturbed by Carswell, declared them entitled to the same freedom from domestic violence that unmarried heterosexuals have.

The quote itself is from the Cleveland Plain Dealer, which you can read here.

The immediate effect is, of course, a relief for victims of domestic violence but obviously a disappointment for those of us who hoped the challenge would have even broader results.

The original case made the news back in 2005 and while I can’t find a reference now I distinctly remember that one such appeal (perhaps not Carswell?) was brought by a public defender’s group that was sympathetic with cause of gay marriage. As I recall they predicted the courts would ultimately rule as they did — otherwise I doubt they would have risked it.

In addition to the Plain Dealer’s article there’s additional reporting on the case from the Columbus Dispatch, July 26, 2007; mirrored at lawyers.com

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