gender differences

What Would You Put In a Book About the "Manly Arts" of Masculinity?

So lately I’ve been enjoying the lifestyle-simplification blog Wise Bread. They’ve got great tips on deals, on avoiding scams, on reducing fripperies in your life, and just generally spending your time, energy, and money on what you need instead of what you think you need. It’s a nice intention and nicely done blog.

The other day they reviewed The Art of Manliness: Classic Skills and Manners for the Modern Man by Brett and Kate McKay. It sounds like a handy book with tips on stuff like how to skip stones, to McGyver a fire without matches, to pick out a suit, how to make a wedding toast, how to use jumper cables.

All those are seriously handy skills for men to have. What’s funny, of course, is that with the possible exception of buying a suit those are all skills that both men and women can and frequently do both master and enjoy. And for that matter, to write with authority about since the book itself was written by a man and… a woman!

Actually, as I’ve mentioned elsewhere, since the unquestionably manly Chief Sitting Bull, General Tso or even George Washington would have been completely at sea in either Brooks Brothers or Ross Dress for Less even the suit-choosing business isn’t essential to manliness.

Speaking as a 100% red-blooded hetero man, if I was to write such book about genuinely universal manly arts I might include a section on the manly skill of massaging your partner’s sacrum, lower back muscles, ribs, and abdomen when she’s cramping unlatching a baby when both mother and child have fallen back to sleep so you can change the inevitably-soiled diaper. You never see that in manly-man books but they’re great skills that roughly 90% of men could use at some point in their lives that roughly 90% of women probably don’t. And maybe something on the manly art of calming another man who hasn’t figured out there are ways besides trying to pick a fight in order to to boost his momentarily-low testosterone levels.

True, there’s the problem of who’d want to read a three-chapter book… ok, four chapters since there are those (mostly manly) urinal stunts. But at the end of the day there aren’t a lot of other genuinely and exclusively manly things to know… that wouldn’t be just as interesting and useful for women to know. (And don’t get me started on all the things men could learn that are supposed to be the exclusive domain of women.)

So… what tips would you include in your essential guide to masculinity?

Update: Doh! First addition to the list: “How to find someone’s clitoris (if you don’t already know)“ is the most commonly Googled post on my site.

Update: Stasha in comments suggests men need to know how to lead in ballroom dancing. Good call. Strictly speaking I don’t think it counts as a classic “masculinity” thing because it’s something far more often desired of men than expected of us. (Most men I know, even the ones who enjoy it, would say it’s certainly not innate.)

Men, Women, and Cold, Dead Fish: Limits of Brain-Scan Technology for "Proving" Gender Differences


Image from Prefrontal.org: The Story Behind the Atlantic Salmon

Unfortunate news for “evolutionary psychologists” who use fMRI brain scans to “prove” things about people’s gendered neural wiring. Here’s a link to a cool poster from Craig Bennett, Abigail Baird, Michael Miller, and George Wolford, using real science and real fMRI brain scans, that “demonstrates” how different areas of a brain “light up” when the subject is asked to categorize the facial expressions of people in photographs. The brain they used was an atlantic salmon brain. A dead atlantic salmon brain!

From the introduction:

With the extreme dimensionality of functional neuroimaging data comes extreme risk for false positives. Across the 130,000 voxels in a typical fMRI volume the probability of a false positive is almost certain. ... To illustrate the magnitude of the problem we carried out a real experiment that demonstrates the danger of not correcting for chance properly.

From the discussion

Can we conclude from this data that the [dead!] salmon is engaging in the perspective-taking task? Certainly not.

Again, as always, not to say one can’t do brain research with fMRI technology. Just that it’s going to take more work than the average “evolutionary psychologist” (who, remember, may not have taken a biology class since high-school!!!) is going to have the funding, or the technical background, to use fMRI techniques to conclusively prove that, say, brain-reward circuits “exhibit a linear increase in activation with increased judgments of attractiveness.”

Again, not to say it can’t be done (it almost certainly can, now or in the not too distant future.) Or is it to say that it couldn’t be true. Just that you probably need to be able to demonstrate that the same results couldn’t be derived from a dead fish brain before we take your “conclusions” very seriously.

And yes, I did use an awful lot of scare quotes in this post.

(Via Mark Liberman. Complete discussion in a blog post from the author, Craig Bennett, here.)

Clarification on "Prepubescence" and Gendered Hair Removal

In comments to my previous post about pubic hair and prepubescence Heather Corinna said “you might also bear in mind that when it is women who are saying that, what women’s view of female genitalia most frequently is. In other words, it’s from the top down, without seeing much more than the mons and outer labia.”

Doh! My apologies for any accusations about denial.

If the way you usually look at yourself then I can see how it might look a lot more similar than it would to one’s partner. But the usual assertion is that men want women to remove pubic hair so they’ll look prepubescent. In which case literally from men’s point of view it doesn’t really work that way.

That doesn’t mean men don’t make entirely unreasonable, oppressive, squeamish, or juvenile demands on their partners. And so neither does it mean that women should reflexively comply with either requests or, especially, demands from partners or to peer pressure (to shave or to not shave or, really, anything) from anyone else.

Instead its just that time spent imagining that men want women to look prepubescent is time spent not critically deconstructing the demand as, say,

  • feeding men’s voyeurism or visual oppression
  • adding yet another area for exacting beauty-standard conformity, assumptions that hair=male with its attendant overtones of intrinsic homophobia
  • perpetuation of a two-sphere or yin/yang model of gender in which anything men are women can’t be or anything women are men can’t be
  • standard demands for ever more default service and submission
  • exploitation of women’s indoctrinated anxiety about appearance
  • a manifestation of all those notions of uncleanliness

Oh, and of course,

  • the relentless and obsessive, sexuality-alienating sexualization of women’s bodies, period…
  • in a way that no amount of political, sartorial, military, or employer pressure on men to shave our faces will ever really compare to.

All such analysis, though, tends to go by the wayside if people just toss up the prepubescence argument anytime the question arises. And since all of the preceding is stuff that men need to confront, and since the prepubescent thing is maybe the single reason that isn’t why men might expect or demand hair removal I think it’s counterproductive and not just mistaken to repeat it.

And Another Thing About Shaving, and Shaving for Whom

It used to really annoy me when a partner (or employer!) told me I had to shave my beard and moustache and so I really don’t think anyone should tell someone else to shave his or her pubic hair. That said, While I’ve never kissed anyone with a beard so I can’t really compare it to kissing someone’s vulva who hasn’t shaved. But I have been kissed both with and without a beard and there’s… just… so much more sensation when someone kisses my face when I’ve shaved it than when I’ve had a beard. So while I probably wouldn’t shave my face because someone else told me I had to I do shave my face for me.

A Recurring Reply to the Recurring Comparison of Shaving to Looking "Prepubescent"


Photo from Filmofilia.com

Seriously, about this recurring pubescent/pre-pubescent meme about pubic hair and shaving: with or pubic without hair both men’s and women’s genitals look as different from children’s as men’s faces do with or without beards.

There are plenty of perfectly good reasons not to shave or trim but the “pre-pubescent” thing says more about denial and unfamiliarity with grownup bodies than anything else.

For instance (since they’re frequently photographed together) Google around for images of George Clooney and Brad Pitt and tell me that a) Clooney looks immature without a beard and b) Pitt looks mature with one. It’s the same with people’s genitals.

Ross Douthat Made More Out of Less Than I Previously Thought

Turns out Mark Liberman of Language Log, before whom (eek, or is it who?!?! :-)) I often non-literally bow, had a more quantitatively sophisticated take on Ross Douthat’s New York Times misogyny than I did in my post. Leiberman says (emphasis mine.)

This is exactly what happened the last time that the Stevenson-Wolfers work was touted in the NYT: many if not most readers took generic statements about “men” and “women” to characterize general properties of the groups, or at least of most members of the groups, whereas the effect under discussion is a shift of a few percentage points, mostly accomplished by shifting the opinions of around 5 women in a hundred from “very happy” to “pretty happy”.

He said it here.

A five percent difference is small enough that if you were to overlap the graphs the difference would be roughly the size of the free edge of a well-trimmed fingernail.

Not much at all with which to hang all of feminism on, but a lovely metaphor for anti-feminism’s frantic clawing against progress.

It gets worse, by the way. As Lieberman elegantly puts it

The best way to describe this, I think, would be to say something like:

In the early 70s, women self-reported their happiness at levels somewhat higher than men did. Specifically, 5.1% more of the women reported themselves “Very happy”, while 1.5% fewer reported themselves “Not too happy”.

30-odd years later, in the mid 00s, women’s self-reported happiness was closer to men’s, though it was still slightly higher. 1.4% more of the women reported themselves “Very happy”, while 0.1% fewer reported themselves “Not too happy”.

As a description of these facts, Douthat’s assertion that “In postfeminist America, men are happier than women” is, at best, bizarrely off base.

And it gets even more worse! From previous reports I’d gotten the impression the research covered the period from publication of Betty Friedan’s 1963 The Feminine Mystique and so in my previous post I listed only earlier conservative bugaboos that Douthat could have blamed for the general decline in reported happiness had he chosen to be merely conservative instead of fractiously anti-feminist (over fractional differences no less.) Leiberman says the reporting period goes to 1972 so to this list from the early 1960s

  • introduction of The Pill
  • Brown vs. Board of Education
  • prohibition of (forced) prayer in school
  • the British Invasion (Beatles, Stones, etc.)
  • industrial competition from Japan and other Asian nations
  • civil rights agitation
  • voting rights
  • discovery of LSD by the counterculture
  • the Miranda Rights decision

add the following from the 1970s and 1980s

  • “stagflation
  • vegetarianism
  • the emergence of A-rab oil
  • A-rab oil embargoes and resulting gas-price increases
  • Earth day
  • Pollution controls on cars
  • Banning DDT
  • The movie Deep Throat
  • The rise of Cosmopolitan magazine (maybe not, like Douthat Cosmo is deeply anti-feminist)
  • Publication of The Joy of Sex, The Happy Hooker, The Sensuous Woman, Fear of Flying, and anything by Nancy Friday.
  • The introduction of the vibrator
  • The mainstreaming of pornography
  • The cancellation of Gunsmoke
  • The death of John Wayne
  • Watergate
  • etc.

But no, while lesser right-wingers would have contented themselves with any or all of those possible reasons, Douthat lasered in on feminism as the only possible cause of what he wants us to see as women’s decline in happiness since 1972.

And by the way he really must specifically dislike feminism because to make his point he had to specifically disregard the nearly equal (ooh, that word!) decline in men’s happiness to do so.

But we already knew that.

Benefits of Non-Perverse (Social) Polymorphism

Cool post about strategy, tactics, activism, and inclusion from Ily of asexy beast

It got me thinking, yet again, about how crucial it is that minorities stick together. Much better to all be queer together than to be separate, adversarial groups. I know that, for example, to be a gay person rejecting trans people in your movement is epically stupid in terms of not only human decency, but overall strategy. If it was just about rights alone (which some would argue), there would be no qualms about actively including queer groups who aren’t fighting for their own legislation. Apparently, asexuals have tons of free time to devote to causes, what with all the sex we’re not having. However, this idea of inclusion, which to me is intuitive, is Martian to some other folks. I realized today how exactly this idea got drummed into my head.

In the 7th and 8th grades, I attended the world’s most grueling middle school. Every class (or year, or grade, for those in other countries) had only 20 kids. This created a perpetual hothouse of drama. There was a group of “popular kids”, a group of female outcasts (including myself), and a group of male outcasts. The dominion of the popular kids was maintained by one thing: The fact that both groups of outcasts thought the other group was untouchable. If we girls had collaborated with the male outcasts instead of making fun of them, we would have had the numbers to achieve equality with the popular kids. Combined, we could have had the strength to fight back— or to just ignore them. My one regret from that time in my life is not trying to make friends with those boys. Looking back, I’m sure they would have been truer friends to me than the girls were in the end. But of course, I didn’t realize this until years later. I can only imagine how much better my 7th and 8th grade years would have been, had I known all this at the time.

This is a true story. But it’s also an allegory. The stautus quo depends on the infighting of minorities. And queer people who reject other queer people are playing right into the staus quo’s hands. They’re doing the very thing their oppressors want them to do. I guess their middle school experiences were better than mine, and that must be nice for them. They might have better memories, but I think I got a better lesson. Although I wouldn’t wish my experience on any child, I did learn something valuable.

She said it here.

I can’t really speak to specific strategy and tactics, and I’m kind of committed to the whole idea that there’s no such thing as a unitary movement whether it’s LGBT, gender, ethnic, or political. But I really can speak to Ily’s point about 7th and 8th graders. Even at my children’s school, an alternative public school with a team-learning focus where you’re just not going to make it if you can’t work outside your “in” group, it’s pretty clear that most of the kids don’t get that they’d often have more in common with larger cross-gender groups than within their own. I try to encourage my children to see the benefits, and sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t. Having watched cohorts of kids moving up for six years now it’s pretty clear that the ones who get the point early or else slip easily from one group to another seem to do really well in the later grades.

So. Would it be a good idea for activist groups to be more inclusive? Well… not exclusively… but yeah, mostly. But Ily’s story is a useful allegory for almost any mixed-social context, not activism.

More of the Same. Please.

Echidne of the Snakes raises and issue dear to my heart: the obsession some people have with “proving” the gender status quo.

There’s no field called ‘the study of gender or sex similarities’. No fledgling assistant professor will make tenure or get promoted by publishing an article which points out that men and women really are rather similar in some characteristic. Just imagine the sensation that would be caused by a book titled Men Are From Baltimore. Women Are From Philadelphia. Snores.

She said it here.

It occurs to me that what’s weird about researching sex differences is that so many sex differences are so freaking obvious! Like, gee, the metabolic requirements for growing eight to eleven pounds of incredibly complex new human being, and modifying and sustaining the associated maternal organs during and after pregnancy have functional impacts on other body systems including (temporarily) cognitive functions? Or that kicking a man in the groin will induce higher subsequent risk-avoidance behavior than in women? Do tell!

Some of those differences are even genetic. (The Y chromosome codes for critical-to-fetal-male-differentiating increased testosterone… and hairy ears. The X chromosome not so much. Case closed.)

Problem is no matter how much research you do you’re only going to further refine the good… oh… let’s be generous and say five percent of human biology and behavior can be explained by innate gender differences in the first place. Leaving…

The other 95 percent of commonalities that are generally overlooked. Overlooked not least by the absolutely unexamined assumptions that men and women are as different as night and day, Mars and Venus, or the deceptively convincing black and white symbols of yin and yang.

There’s a possibly-apocryphal but instructively popular anecdote about construction of one of the early cyclotrons. These are large circular machines, dozens, sometimes hundreds of feet in diameter back then, with tons of magnets that physicists use to accelerate subatomic particles to high speeds. Controlled collisions of such particles can reveal quite a lot about the nature of matter, but in order for such machines to function properly they have to be circular. Really, really, millimeter-perfect circles.

Anyway, the story goes that builders of the cyclotron measured everything meticulously at every step, using micrometers to insure that each part was aligned perfectly with its neighbor. When they turned it on… nothing happened. So they got out their micrometers again and measured and adjusted, measured and adjusted, eliminating even the fractional variations they found. And when they turned it on… nothing happened again! So out came the tools, this time even more precise… and… again nothing happened.

And, the story goes, a janitor/carpenter/passerby/kid got a stick, a string, and a pencil put the stick in the middle of the big ring, tied the string and the pencil together, and traced a big circle and found… the measured-by-millimeters circle was actually more than a foot out of round.

The point of my little digression being that, like the alleged cyclotron builders, gender-difference researchers who spend months looking for minute (or even possibly imaginary structural differences in features of the brain) might ask themselves if our brains are really so different why is it so hard to distinguish them, even with really sophisticated instrumentation, from all the parts that aren’t different…

...when the social-sciences equivalent of a stick and a string can tell you that the genes for growing noticeable-to-passers-by boobs, in combination with other individuals with genes for growing bigger muscles, in combination with social structures that historically have treated people with boobs as exchangeable commodities might explain more than you (well, not you but too many others, evidently) want to hear about the basis of significant gender differences in people with very, very similar brains?

Echidne adds,

Why does any of this matter? First, because these studies are always a defense of the status quo. That status quo is always “the worst of times and the best of times” for women; the worst because the studies have established that women really can’t (and don’t even want to be) be equal with men due to all those hard-wired (by some prehistoric electrician) sex differences, and the best because the current arrangements in the society are the best women really can hope for. But of course the status quo of the different-humors theory was different from the status quo of the late nineteenth century which is different from the status quo of today.

Second, bad just-so theories about the difference between men and women affect more than what people talk about at cocktail parties. They affect the culture and its norms, and they affect the beliefs, aspirations and self-confidence of girls and boys yet not born.

Hear, hear. Despite the decidedly non-catchy title Men Are From Baltimore. Women Are From Philadelphia would actually be a much more interesting book! Just for starters, it would start to explain how and why men, women, and those in between use the same parts of their brains to respond to differential environmental and social inputs.

There are a million different possibilities but, this being ostensibly a sex blog… and since “sex sells,” such a book might contain inquiries into (nonexistent as far as I know) studies into how heterosexual male college students react when they’re considerably outnumbered on campus by increasingly sexually-assertive heterosexual women. It might contain data about women’s reactions to partners who are sexually cooler than they are. It might compare and contrast stereotypical beliefs against the realities of men who have a hard time having orgasms and women who come “prematurely…” and lose interest before their partners are done. And in general it might spend a lot of time looking at (also next to nonexistent as far as I know) studies explaining how men, women, and people in between respond to situations where their socialized gender conditioning is screened or filtered out.

Again, I’m not saying men and women are identical — see genes for boobs, hairy ears, above. And so I’m not saying explorations of the similarities would turn up only similarities. I’m just saying I expect science to try and tell us stuff we don’t know, not to reinforce what we do. And, as I’ve said elsewhere, a great way to do that would be to begin with the assumption that we’re the same instead of different and see what comes out of that.

Nature vs. Nurture vs. Throwback Gender Ideology

Phila of ECHIDNE OF THE SNAKES says


According to a groundbreaking new study, cultures that value mathematical ability in women produce women who are good at math
Read the quote in context here.

Yeah, because men’s brains and women’s brains are just so naturally, immutably, evolutionarily different that they can be profoundly altered by parental attitudes plus…

The pipeline for nurturing top math talent in the U.S. is badly broken beginning at the middle school level. Eighty percent of female and 60 percent of male faculty hired in recent years by the very top U.S. research university mathematics departments were born in other countries.

... variable prioritization of education.

Phila closes with

I suspect that the conservative ideologues who find evidence of divine handiwork in mitochondria would have a great deal of trouble detecting a guiding inteligence behind this outcome, even as they work indefatigably to maintain and justify it.

Oh yeah, but, um, wait! Hey look! There goes a herd of flying crockuses!

Who Are You Going To Believe, Statistics Or Your Own Lying Eyes? :-)


My illustration. Click for full-size version.
So! When someone tells you something like “Most girls and women interpret facial expressions better than most boys and men can,” what do you assume they mean by the word “most?”

If I was to show you a ton of yellow and blue dots and then tell you most of the dots are one color or the other what would you expect to see? Well, most of the dots in the accompanying yellow — as long as you’re willing to agree that “fifty-three per hundred” is “most.” And technically it is. Although I’m guessing, well, that most people would say there were roughly equal numbers of both.

At any rate, commenting on yet another guy trying to make a buck off of our allegedly massive gender differences Mark Liberman of Language Log says

It seems to me that people often take most to mean a large majority, large enough to be in some sense characteristic of the set quantified over, and not just barely more than half. And this helps explain why Paula Spencer, the author of the CNN article, took Sax to be making a much more categorical statement. Her version uses a plain plural to characterize the group difference: “Because girls study faces so intently, they’re better at reading nonverbal signals, such as expression and tone of voice.”

Read the quote in context here.

Same thing, by the way, when you hear stuff like “Gay men’s brains, and straight women’s brains, are different from straight men’s brains.” We’re talking very small differences there too, with (as in the example Mark Leiberman cites) there are larger differences inside the groups (e.g. differences in brain size among straight men) than between (e.g. differences in averages between gay and straight men.)

It’s just one more area where it’s a terrible idea to use gendered assumptions to try to explain, let alone set social policy.

Syndicate content