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Political Bloggers, Magic Mushrooms, Reality Programming, Dry Statistical Analysis and... How We Really Find Love

Mon, 2011-06-20 13:37

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In the course of pondering political blogger Andrew Sullivan's experience of psilocybin mushroom hallucinations as evidence of spiritual reality, fellow political blogger Kevin Drum asks what might seem to be an unrelated question but, I promise, really, really isn't.

What do you think of those reality TV shows like The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, where some handsome guy or gal sweeps through a field of equally handsome contenders week by week until they're left at the end with their one true love? As near as I can tell, most people who watch these shows think that it shows something about the power of romance. But I have a different takeaway: if you can take 25 random people and reliably make your bachelor/bachelorette fall in love with one of them every single time, then it really means there's not much to romance at all, doesn't it? A few weeks of time and a modest selection of potential mates will do it every time. Sorta sucks all the mystery out of it.

Source: Kevin Drum

The real context for Drum is the durability of confirmation bias rather than mushroom-induced spirituality or romance. But his question about romance is actually pretty interesting. Because it confirms my possibly biased belief that romance is made not found.

I wrote a post about the "one in a million" conceit about finding love. Reading over it I see it was personal beyond belief -- a seemingly dry discourse about grief and expectation, loneliness and miracles, and the intense irony of something that was happening literally across the street at the moment of my despair-fueled question "is it true?"

The post is called About Perfection.

Here's the "dry" part from that post

If someone does have to be one in a million… well, at the time that meant there were still roughly five people in my area code who were perfect for me. And if someone was going to be perfect for me she was probably close to my age, she was probably interested in the things I was interested in, probably had a background similar to mine… and probably lived somewhere nearby. Realizing there might be five one-in-a-million people living close enough that I might somehow meet them… well it didn’t exactly cheer me up but it broke that cycle big time.

But is it true? Is one in a million really the magic ratio?

I don’t think so. To be honest I think it’s lower. A lot lower. Mightent it be closer to one in 100,000? How about one in 50,000?

I’d already met a number of tremendously wonderful people. Yet I doubt I’d met even 50,000 people in my life.

But say I had. I’d certainly met dozens of people I felt that, under the right circumstances, I could have a lasting relationship with. So that magic number was even lower. I decided it was closer to one in a thousand, and to this day I think that’s about right.

That was the part I was looking for when I first read Drum's post. And the main thing I wanted to say when I started looking for my old post was that Drum's insight probably pushes my lower bound even further.

But I just have to add that the most important part... the one that brings tears back to my eyes... comes almost at the end.

It was a one in a million coincidence.

If we’d each met four years earlier, when we needed each other the most, in our lost and lonely apartments across the street… I’m not sure it would have worked.

Instead we met when we were open, available, but not lost, not sad, not really even lonely.

15 years later, two children later, ten thousand kisses and just maybe that many disagreements, through all manner of sicknesses and healths, of betters and worses, we’re still not perfect for each other…

But she’s one in a million for me

And if my math is a little off it doesn’t really matter because we weren’t really counting.

Perfection, as the girl in Lisa’s story didn’t understand, isn’t found. It’s made.

There are only two things I'd change about that post. The trivial one is that a shift in blogging platforms erased the names of all those who left sweet comments. The other one, just the correction of one out of date number really, isn't trivial at all. If I were rewriting the post I'd have to change the fifteen in "15 years later..." to twenty.

The main point though? The one Drum hints at and I pondered all those years ago? It's still true.

Geez, I don't usually say very nice things about my own writing, but... since I'm not sure I've ever written anything else like it I'm going to link to it again! About Perfection, from February 2006.

The Persistance of Zombies

Tue, 2009-11-03 00:34

So I was putting my daughter to bed a bit ago and she was all wound up about zombies, having just seen Michael Jackson’s Thriller video (for instance here.)

And wow, even though Halloween is over and all people sure are fired up about zombies. Vampires too but, seriously, the zombie thing is pretty… interesting.

And it seemed to me that one of the wild things about the zombie narrative is that no matter how decayed, and no matter how chopped into flinders, they just keep inching forward towards the hapless heros of the story.

And I… I think what makes zombies compelling enough to have become almost cultural clichés is that just as vampires are a metaphor for our facination and fear of lust, zombies are a metaphor for unrequited longing.

And no, not “unrequited longing” in the stalker sense. The movie-monster metaphor for that would be found more in the psycho/Jason/Freddy genre. And, of course, stalker movies. Plus real life stalkers who, unlike make-believe vampires and zombies, aren’t blank enough slates to project our (idealized) fantasies onto.

And finally, no, I’m not claiming that longing is a bad thing just because zombies do it. For one thing metaphors aren’t analogies.

Romantic Reverse Gödels Theorem

Thu, 2009-09-03 11:35

Q: “How much do you love me?”
A: “More than I can say in words.”

Ok, that ought to be “in any system that uses words I can not consistently form truthful sentences that express how much I love you without contradicting myself.” But I don’t think anyone’s that big a nerd. (But if they are then aww that’s sweet!)

Choice and Compatibility

Mon, 2009-02-02 10:01

Ily of asexy beast, reflecting on what might be learned from a sympathetic documentary on a 70’s-era group of choice-not-chance political lesbians and what activist asexuals can learn from them.

Ironically one of the big anti-feminist tropes of the previous century was a conviction that feminists in general, and lesbians in particular, just needed the “right” man and suddenly they’d all go back to their kitchens, coffee klatches, and hair salons. Or something.

Asexuals (Ily now shortens that to aces which is pretty cool) obviously face that particular problem on a regular basis. In a footnote Ily puts on the orange vest and puts traffic cones around that idea (emphasis mine.)


While I don’t think I chose my asexuality, I also think it encompasses more than just a lack of sexual desire. Even if I met someone whose clothes I wanted to rip off everyday_, I’d still want to identify as asexual. I just believe strongly in what we’re trying to accomplish here. It’s more than sex, or lack thereof.

_(And why, when talking to aces, is this situation usually called “When you find the right person?” It’s very possible that any number of us would be sexually attracted to people who are total assholes. Don’t plenty of folks want to have sex with people who are wrong for them? Whoever’s spinning this “right person” stuff either can’t separate sex and love, or is high on Windex and cheese puffs.)

Read the quote in context here.

Yeah, even if we overlook the rather hard-to-overlook problems that arise when people are forced (or force themselves) to “choose” an orientation that’s not natural to them, there’s the problem that the people you’re most attracted to might not be someone you want to spend much actual time with.

I mean… you think people out of the mainstream don’t try to go along to get along? I can’t find the link (I learned about it in a women’s studies/sex-ed course I took last year) but when matched by age and demographic lesbians tend to have a “number” for male partners that’s approximately double the “number” for matched heterosexual women. Which sort of belies the whole “find the right man” theory. And while less seems to be known* about gay men and asexuals of all designations, it’s likely that at least until very recently they too have felt enough conformity pressure to make sure they’re just not finding the “right person” before coming out to themselves or others.

Instead, sort of obviously, the right person is usually someone with the same orientation (or lack thereof) as you. But even then, as Ily points out, since sex and love really are distinct, there still might be incompatibilities.

Cool post.

[* Remember that so much is claimed to be known about women because, for whatever reason {cough}voyeurism{cough}, women are the subject of sex research waaaay out of proportion to their percentage of the population. —fl]

Deep thought #1: Language of Love and Sex

Sun, 2009-01-04 17:35

Technically it’s more accurate to say “we have love” and “we make sex” than the more common opposites.

“Having” sex is wrapped up the no-sex-class paradigm where sex is this not-intrinsic-to-us thing we just happen to have happen to us. Have happen to the 51% of us who happen to be female… at the hands of the 49% of us who “have” ostensibly pre-conscious and inescapable urges “happen” to them.

Instead of sex is something we actively do. Or don’t do. Not something that we passively have (whether we like it or not.) Or don’t have (whether we like it or not.) Sure, maybe saying it’s something we “have” gives us plausible deniability… but it’s way more honest, to ourselves, each other, and society in general, to say we make it.

Love, meanwhile, especially in the construction “making love” is something that’s supposed to magically be created by… fucking? Yeah, like that’s how love happens.

I mean, honestly!

Marrying for Money: No news is evidently news

Fri, 2007-12-14 10:06

“Wealth Report” reporter Robert Frank of The Wall Street Journal writes, mostly predictably, about marriage for love (the shockingly modern idea nicely charted by Stephanie Coontz in Marriage, a History: How Love Conquered Marriage) vs marriage for financial gain (the real, ancient tradition behind “traditional marriage.”)

The survey polled 1,134 people nationwide with incomes ranging between $30,000 to $60,000 (squarely in the median range for nationwide incomes). The survey asked: “How willing are you to marry an average-looking person that you liked, if they had money?”

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Fully two-thirds of women and half of the men said they were “very” or “extremely” willing to marry for money. The answers varied by age: Women in their 30s were the most likely to say they would marry for money (74%) while men in their 20s were the least likely (41%).

There’s more here.

Now I could just jerk my knee a couple of times and say something predictable. Instead I’m wondering how, exactly, this is news. Sort of by definition the average person marries an “average-looking person that you lik[e], period.”

And inside the tradition of “traditional marriage” that was usually the best one could hope for: that your parents, or up through early 20th Century Amercia, the woman’s parents, would select a parter who wasn’t just “suitable” according to their interests but also suitable to yours. Love was expected to follow, if at all, out of a sort of mutual, necessity-based version of the Stockholm Syndrome.

At any rate, in this case one would probably expect traditional-marriage advocates to really, really applaud the story since, for them, to the extent women marry for pecuniary, even predatory, reasons their view of the world is preserved (as is, of course, the no-brainer “no-sex” class side effect.) Because otherwise why on earth would they get their stomach staples in such a twist over women earning the same as men? And, perhaps perversely, one might expect traditionalists to equally applaud the fact that a number of men appear willing to marry into money since, given the way traditionalists despise and mistrust men and insist that women’s role is to… chelate men’s worst impulses, a man married into money would be even more beholden to the “civilizing” influences of his partner.

But that’s all philosophizing. While the purpose of the story may be to perform maintenance on the dominant memes of women as gold-diggers and men as wallets. The real story, however, is that average men and women, earning average incomes, would marry other average people if they had higher-than-average incomes. Which, since by definition average people marry average people anyway, isn’t exactly earth-shattering news.

Update: In comments Lynn Gazis-Sax of Noli Irritare Leones astutely notices there the “damned if you don’t” angle of the question:

I’d want to repudiate the whole question; it has no good answer. If I say, no, I wouldn’t marry an average looking person that I liked who had money, that sounds as if I wouldn’t marry even someone I liked unless that person also has movie star looks (even though I don’t have movie star looks myself. But if I say, yes, I would marry an average looking person that I liked who had money, that sounds as if I would marry a person that I merely like, and don’t really love, just because the person has lots of money. So the one answer sounds shallow and vain, while the other answer sounds callous and mercenary.

And while we’re at it…

Finaly, a third way to be “damned” of it would be to selfishly insist that one’s partner could never bring in more money than you, as in that wretched men’s top ten secrets list from Redbook wherein “...we’re shallow, competitive egomaniacs. You don’t think it gets under our skin if our woman’s bringing home more bacon than we are — and frying it up in a pan?”

Great family values in that equation by the way: “Oh no, my self-esteem, or maybe my gender prejudices, are more important than the possibility of better household circumstances.” A.k.a. “tell you what, honey, you stay home and I’ll work twice as hard so you and the children never see me… because we’ll be closer and have a better child-raising environment that way.” Sheah, right.

Great set of expectations in one little question… which we should all answer right after the one about whether we’ve stopped neglecting our partners.

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