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Cuckoldry Isn't Nearly as Common as Angry "I Poked Her So I Should Own Her" Crowd Passionately Wishes to Believe

Razib Khan of Discover Blogs says


An urban myth, often asserted with a wink & a nod in some circles, is that a very high proportion of children in Western countries are not raised by their biological father, and in fact are not aware that their putative biological father is not their real biological father. The numbers I see and hear vary, but 10% is a low bound.

Read the quote in context here.

Khan quotes another biologist, Marlene Zuk, on how enormous people imagine cuckoldry to be

When asked to estimate the frequency of misassigned paternity in the general population, most people hazard a guess of 10%, 20% or even 30%, with the last number coming from a class of biology undergraduates in a South Carolina university that I polled last year. I pointed out that this would mean that nearly 20 people in the class of 60-some students had lived their lives calling the wrong man Dad, at least biologically. They just nodded cynically, undaunted.

Khan continues (emphasis mine)

What are the real numbers? Zuck asserts that they’re more in the 1-5% range, with 3.7% being a high-bound figure for one study. This varies by culture and socioeconomic group, and the segment of the population being surveyed. Studies which rely on a data set consisting of men who have requested paternity tests are strongly sample biased toward those who have a reason to have suspicions. ... And yet even in the cases of men who have suspicions only a minority have misattributed paternity.

Got that? The high figures you hear cited, generally instigated by bitter divorced men and other “men’s rights” activists, and abetted by tabloid cable shows, are heavily inflated because paternity tests are sought mainly by men who are already suspicious. And yet, as Khan points out, even when men imagine cause for suspicion the suspicions are usually unfounded.


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Kathryn Jean Lopez, Patriarch, Predictably Uses Patriarchal Framing to Discuss Contraception

Amanda Marcotte of Pandagon has another one of those silly moments where she forgets that anti-feminists know so much more about feminism and what it really means.

[Kathryn Jean Lopez of National Review Online] is the first to line up to explain to all the stupid feminists why we’re so stupid thinking we actually enjoy contraception, sex, and having choices. 

In an otherwise largely celebratory forum on the pill at CNN’s website, Republican strategist and book publisher Mary Matalin cleverly and jarringly wrote: “Packages of portable liberation ushered in a generation of women determined to break free from their inferior patriarchal oppressors. And how did they manifest their superiority? Their freedom? Thanks to The Pill, by casual, drive-by sex. Whoa. That really showed those stupid boys.”

They can keep telling us that feminism is about hating men, and therefore we’re breaking our own rules by having good relationships with them and (if we’re straight) enjoying sex with them, but it’s not sticking.  Perhaps they’re wrong about what feminism is?  I don’t know; I’m just an actual feminist.  So when I say that feminism is about women’s equality and creating a non-patriarchal world where men and women are freed get along as equals, I don’t know what I’m talking about.  The only people who get to define feminism are people who oppose it.

She said it here.

Say what you like about Sigmund Freud but I think the world is a better place for his articulation of projection — the tendency to see in others the evils one perpetrates, or at best most wishes to perpetuate, oneself.

I mention this because for all that anti-feminists claim they’re standing up for the definition of men as… well… by-definition superior to women, they’ve got some seriously, seriously man-hating tendencies.

I mean yeah, Lopez is dumping on women for having Teh Sex with men but… but… some times you just gotta ask yourself why she’d think that would be a problem. And the answer, I’m pretty sure, boils down to one of three possibilities:

1) she thinks men are disgusting creatures who’s penises by their very existence sully women. Or

2) she thinks men are lazy animals who can’t be persuaded to do anything at all, let alone anything productive, couth, or genteel, unless they’re positively starved for sex. Which starvation will never take place if women succumb to their own “animal” instincts and “give it up” for free. Or

3) both #1 and #2.

Lopez, who hates men, projects this hatred onto feminism. Which she also hates. Furthermore, she then hates feminism worse for “contradictions” she perceives between how feminists behave and how she thinks feminists ought to behave.

The problem being that Lopez confuses “patriarchy,” which feminists rightly oppose, with “men,” who feminists can get a little impatient with but with only the occasional exception feminists don’t hate at all.

Clue time? Patriarchy is not limited to men. Patriarchy is a coed enterprise. Lopez isn’t a dupe or a thrall of patriarchy, nor a collaborator with it, nor is she a “useful idiot” of patriarchy (though, sorry, she is an idiot!) Instead she’s a fully-invested, active agent of it, a would-be architect of it. And as part of the patriarchy she hates men even worse than she hates women who have sex with them.

Now as to the substance of Lopez’s claim I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that if you go on the pill just so you can let men have “casual” sex with you then… then I think it’s a good idea to maybe rethink both your relationship to men and your relationship to sex and who your sexuality it’s really for. And about. But I don’t think it’s a good idea to rethink your relationship to the pill, as Lopez would have you do. The main thing the pill does, or any other contraception does, is help couples, of whatever duration, avoid pregnancy. Who one has relationships with, and why, is an issue contraception really isn’t going to help, except possibly to the extent it helps avoid obstacles that make exiting an unfortunate relationship very much more difficult.

Oh and can I just add one more thing about Lopez and the pill in particular but contraception in general? Who does she thinks uses contraception here? It’s at least as common among married and/or partnered women as it is among “casual” sex-having single women. And if you take into account the married women who are currently actively seeking planned, wanted pregnancies I’m… pretty sure married women who aren’t trying to get pregnant are even more likely to use contraception. So WTF with her implication that the pill primarily enables casual sex? As opposed to sex inside established and even long-term committed relationships.

When you see patriarchal framing you probably want to call it. Lopez is a patriarch. Framing contraception in terms of “casual” sex and “letting” boys have sex with you? That’s patriarchal framing.


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Women Who Save Nations Rarely Listen to West Bank Chief Rabbis

Lindsay Beyerstein of Big Think offers the briefest complete response possible to some patriarchal asshat’s attempt to return to pre-20th-Century gender roles.

Reflecting on a BBC report

“The chief rabbi of a West Bank settlement has prohibited women from standing in a local community election.

Rabbi Elyakim Levanon of the Elon Moreh settlement, near Nablus, said women lacked the authority to stand for the post of local secretary.

He wrote in a community newspaper that women must only be heard through their husbands.

BBC article here.

Beyerstein asks, simply

WWGMD? Or, what would Golda Meir do?

The aspirations of patriarchy remain alive and well.


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The Gendered Construction of Gender Construction With an Eye Towards Ending Cycles of Partner Abuse and Other Woes

Summary: The benefits of taking a gender-neutral approach to solving the problem of highly differential gender pressure on boys and girls are likely to be huge. So we ought to stop buying the same old gendered construction of gender construction.

So I was driving through rural Tennessee just now (I’m home on a very brief visit for an elderly relative’s funeral) and was listening to an NPR program on satellite radio.

The topic involved the beating death of a (Vermont?) college lacrosse player at the hands of her domestic partner. The host and three guests were all women with professional experience related to relationship abuse.

Without taking anything away (seriously!) from the nuanced, non-black-and-white-answer guests, or the somewhat less savvy host, all of whom I thought asked and answered questions pretty well, I would like to make a pitch for a more gender-neutral approach to the problem.

I don’t mean a “but men can be victims too” approach, although several of the guests made clear that sometimes happens. And I don’t mean a “gender blind” approach either because, sorry, even when you factor out stereotypical assumptions and biases by pretty much every measure of relationship violence the patterns of control and abuse are more likely to involve men shepherding, controlling, and injuring their partners than women.

So. What do I mean by “gender neutral” then?

Two items have been on my mind lately, and the discussion helped bring it to a head.

First of all, the host and two of the guests spoke confidently only about problems with “ever younger sexualization of girls.” In her concurrence the third guest, a judge, carefully agreed there’s a problem with increasingly sexualized youth.

And that’s the first important point where gender neutrality seems important. Yes, girls are increasingly sexualized at increasingly younger age (“anyone remember those rhinestone “hottie” and “tease” thong undies for pre-teens? I think they sold them at J.C. Pennies!) What’s overlooked is that boys are being similarly sexualized. Just not as “hotties” or “teases.” Instead they’re being groomed to value themselves by conquests, by self-confidence, by “that’s what bitches want,” and even, more prosaically, “girls my age are doing it already, what should I be doing?”

In other words, while the nature of the sexualization is absolutely, 100%, incontrovertibly gendered, the sexualization itself is gender neutral: it’s happening equally to girls and boys. Failing to recognize this — failing to see that not all the influence is generated by older men grooming eternally more precocious girls but that boys are also sucked into the vortex and are influenced to identify as sexualized earlier.

Which leads me to the other point: I think pretty much everyone on the planet can recognize that girls are often (not always but yeah, pretty often) pressured into performing sexuality before they’re necessarily ready before their ready to be actually sexual. Again, those “hottie” thongs for 4th- or 5th-graders? Rest my case, m’kay?

What I think isn’t as well recognized is that boys are often pressured into performing sexuality before they’re ready to be sexual. In fact I think it’s not just poorly recognized, I think it’s pretty much fucking invisible!

And this is where I think gender neutrality comes in handy again. Because if you just assume, as society as culture does, that “already has a y-chromosome” equals “already ready for sex” then you’re going to interpret the behavior of boys as if a) they instinctively know exactly what they’re doing, b) they instinctively know exactly what they want, and c) they themselves see their (frankly predatory) behavior as predatory rather than as, say, defensive. Oh yes, and that therefore d) predatory boys behavior, being intentional, competent, and instinctive, is therefore immutable. And therefore, e) there’s no point trying to change male behavior – except possibly by supervision, restriction, and threats.

Remember here that I’m really clearly not saying the behavior is gender neutral, it’s way generally not. Instead I’m saying that pressure to behave in gendered ways is gender neutral (it happens to boys and girls of all persuasions.) And I’m saying that the best analysis is gender neutral as a result of effort not to buy into gender-biased assumptions.

In the face of gender-biased analysis items a-e, above are taken as fixed. And consequently you see almost all discourse in the terms I heard tonight: how do we warn girls? How do we train girls to recognize abuse? How do we recognize girls who are abused? All of which, obviously, is itself highly gendered. And all of which, I think, we’re (finally) less willing to tolerate when it comes to questions of sexual assault. (For instance we’re no longer talking only in terms of what women can do to avoid assault. Nor, thank goodness, are we assuming if a girl is assaulted there must have been something she could have done to avoid it.)

A gender neutral approach, one that I think is finally seeping in to the issue of sexual assault, is…

Not just checking in on boys. Not just intervening with boys. Even though thouse are good ideas. But also instructing boys. Also reassuring boys. Also warning boys. About the sexualization that’s happening to them. About the risks of feeling pressure not just to respond but to act before they’re ready. Of the patterns of pressured behavior that can first shade and then plunge into abusiveness.

Because it seems to me it’s doing a great disservice, not just to boys but to everybody to write them off as unalterably malevolent, whether or not its imagined to be intentional or impulsive malevolence.

I’m trying to think of a comparable example and one of them would be the whole “purity ball” abstinence-fetish business where the purity instructions for boys are… all about girl’s purity — “you wouldn’t want your sister…” or “how would you feel about some other boy touching your future bride…” all with no, zero, none regard for the possibility that “purity” could be anything besides a euphemism for “untouched pussy” or that “not ready” could be anything but a euphemism for “keep her pristine for her purchaser,” or that “protect from emotional harm” could mean anything more than “kept naive enough to imagine picking out the wedding dress is the last choice she’ll ever need to make… or be allowed to.”

Never mind that boys don’t automatically know what to do any more than girls do. Never mind that boys actually seem to start being “ready” a year or two after girls their ages are. Never mind that boys have their own emotional needs, their own crushes, their own naive assumptions, their own internal and external experiences of peer pressure.

And here’s the point: it’s a gendered assumption that only girls are vulnerable to sexualization just as it’s a gendered assumption that boys are immune to it. It’s a gendered assumption that only girls are responsive to mitigation of gendered construction. And when we’re able to start assessing boys with a gender-neutral eye I have a feeling the social benefits will be exponential rather than incremental.

We ought to start trying it.


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Phil Plait on "Boobquake:" The Risks of Combining Probability and Gullability

In case you didn’t need other reasons to be skeptical of today’s proposed “boobquake” response to (yet another) religious leader’s claim that women’s immodesty brings down the wrath of god, Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy point out a strictly pragmatic, statistical problem that…

...has to do with the number of earthquakes around the world. Here is a table from the USGS giving the number of earthquakes per year listed by magnitude:

As you’d expect, there are very few huge quakes, and a lot of little ones. We expect to rack up maybe one quake more powerful than magnitude 8 in a year, but on average we get one in the magnitude 6 – 6.9 range every couple of days somewhere in the world, and one in the 5 – 5.9 range something like three to five times every day. That’s every few hours!

And there’s the weakness in the Boobquake plan. The idea of Boobquake is to debunk the cleric by saying that women can reveal their boobs and not start a seismic event (ignoring perhaps the tremors caused by geek guys habitually running to their computers every few minutes and checking for updates). But without defining the time period, the earthquake size, and the region in advance, this can actually reinforce the cleric’s claims! Given the huge tracts of land involved, no matter when women of the world unveil their decolletage, there is bound to be a magnitude 5 quake within an hour or so of the event, and a mag 6 quake within a day.

We also know that supernatural thinking makes people see correlations where none exist, and to also retroactively assign credit after an event to something that happened before it. They cling desperately to such measures like a drowning man to a life preserver. And when the parameters (like time and size) aren’t defined in advance, that makes uncritical thinking easier. If there is even a modest earthquake today, then that cleric can declare victory. If there’s a big quake, then it’s more like sending that drowning man a motorboat!

He said it here.

Of course a table similar to the USGS earthquake table could be drawn showing the number of dire imprecations and condemnations made by clerics, ministers, rabbis, priests, shamans, and right-wing pundits blaming women or LGBT people for earthquakes and, well, everything they think is wrong with the world. Although it would be a much bigger table. Which means on any given day it’s damned if you do and damned if you don’t. And as the Alice character in the Dilbert comic said years ago, “if success is impossible then… I’m… free! The result will be the same no matter what I do.” So today, just like any other day, wear whatever you wanted to wear anyway.


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Ev-Psychs Economists Conclude Evolution Makes People With More Daughters Identify Republican? Now We Can All Go Home!

Via Tyler Cowen of Marginal Revolution, who has paid access to academic papers, the concluding paragraph of a new paper by economics researchers Dalton Conley, Emily Rauscher claims that not only does having more daughters tend to make politicians more conservative (despite prior research saying the contrary) there’s an sociobiology/evolutionary-biology angle that explains the whole thing! (Emphasis mine.)

Using nationally-representative data from the General Social Survey, we find that female offspring induce more conservative political identification. We hypothesize that this results from the change in reproductive fitness strategy that daughters may evince.

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The conservative emphasis on family, traditional values and gender roles, and prolife anti-abortion sentiments all stress investment in children – for both men and women. Conservative policies mirror the genetic interests of women, writ large. They attempt to promote paternal investment in offspring. Further, they stress investment in conceived offspring – “a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.” In short, Conservative policies support the genetic fitness of women by capitalizing on each pregnancy, reducing male promiscuity, and increasing paternal investment in children. Such policies may impinge on the freedom of parents’ immediate offspring, but they increase the expected number of grandchildren via daughters.

You’ll have to pay to confirm it but they allegedly say it if you begin reading here.

Got that girls? Keeping you at home, in the kitchen, with the children, while government policy rains Hell on the kind of hussies that “ask for it” from men, and scowling and sternly tapping it’s foot at the men who give it to them, is all in your own best genetic interest.

Maybe not your individual, personal, mental and psychological or even corporeal interest, sure. But your genes? Oh yeah, you mousey little baby-maker, your genes know better than you. They know you want it.

It’s an even more cellular-level version of the same old worth-of-a-woman-is-her-offspring argument.

Otherwise, whereas it’s entirely possible that the researcher’s data supports their contention that politicians who have (proportionately) more daughters tend to be more conservative, I’m extremely skeptical of their implications that

a) politicians with daughters become more conservative in order to maximize their own 2nd- and 3rd-generation offspring
b) that conservatism even maximizes the reproductive potential of those women under their dominion
and, especially,
c) that very many conservative politicians are going to be that thrilled that they’re either the products or the beneficiaries, let alone the vehicles for Darwinian evolution.


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Harry Potter, Ron Weasely, Hermione Granger, and Nick Kristof: Time for *Affirmative* Affirmative Action for Boys

Lindsay Beyerstein of Big Think says

In his latest op/ed Nick Kristof is lamenting the fact that girls are outperforming boys at school. Kristoff is as ardent a defender of women’s rights as anyone in the established media, so he gets a proverbial clitoral ‘hood pass. Yet Kristof seems oblivious to the fact that many self-appointed advocates for boys in the school system are trying to address educational disparities by further institutionalizing male privilege. Instead of demanding more resources to help boys succeed within the system, they want to overhaul the system to cater to male developmental quirks. Boys are just that special.

Read the quote in context here.

Kristof handles the most conventional “yes but” explanations, for instance the “yes but” that performance by local-minority children drags down national averages (the declines are mapped across most demographics), but buys into the possibly-correct notion that increased and earlier academic focus plus disciplinary screw-downs tend to disproportionately alienate boys. So that’s all ok.

And while he points at residual privilege as an even more-likely source for boy’s underperformance he earns more gender-neutrality points, at least from me, in his concluding paragraph (emphasis mine)

At a time when men are still hugely overrepresented in Congress, on executive boards, and in the corridors of power, does it matter that boys are struggling in schools? Of course it does: our future depends on making the best use of human capital we can, whether it belongs to girls or boys.

He said it here.

It’s true! Making the best use of human capital really is the clearest path towards a brighter future! And so I’m strongly inclined to split the difference between Kristof and Bayerstein. As long as boys and their parents could count on a vast series of structural institutions they could also count on being able to lump along on privilege plus Harry Potter / Ron Weasley style luck, pluck, and “girls suck.” Meanwhile over the last 40 years girls, and their parents, have been rather critically aware that if they were going to get anywhere they were going to have to work their asses off Hermione Granger style. Parents have been taking their daughters to work since the 1980s… a period roughly coinciding with strong movement in the workforce away from the kinds of jobs sons were previously brought lump-along style into.

In other words while for the last couple of generations social intertia has continued raising boys in the traditions of casual, lump-along privilege society has also tended to be expressly intentional a.k.a. affirmative about raising girls.

It’s for this reason that I’m more sanguine about us becoming more intentionally affirmative about how we raise boys — the old techniques of greasing the skids so they can coast (into Congress, CEO offices, or other corridors of power) isn’t just unfair, and isn’t just increasingly ineffective (while Harry and Ron could skate without exerting themselves in the the pseudo-1940 or 1950s universe Rowling created for them, Hermione would become CEO and/or Prime Minister and… would be unlikely to hire either of the boys into positions of responsibility) it’s also gets back to the waste of human capital Kristof mentions. Given affirmative, intentional, non-negligent educations boys can grow up to be as productive as girls. It might not happen overnight (old traditions seem to die very hard) but if we choose to put as much effort into boys as the old status quo forced us to put into girls it might take less than 40 years for boys to catch up.


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Possibly the Most Anti-Feminist, Patriarchal Words of the 20th Century: "Wait Till Your Father Gets Home"

In her introduction to Feminism is for Everyone bell hooks mentions that her mother was the most patriarchal person she ever knew. But even though it’s unlikely the words “just wait till your father gets home” were often spoken by a 20th-Century man this isn’t about “but women do it too.” It’s about how deeply that conditioning goes.

You could spend all afternoon unpacking the gender assumptions, the disempowerment, the paradoxes of traditional “wisdom” (who’s supposed to be the authority in the domestic and child-rearing spheres?) and still not reach the bottom.

Discuss.


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Goldberg Gets it Backwards: Free Women Don't Make Men Civilization, Owning Women Makes Men Uncivilized

Quick follow up on that post about Jonah Goldberg, who wishes (coughthirdworldcough) women could have a little more power so they could “civilize” their men.

Goldberg actually has it exactly backwards. It’s not that women civilize men, it’s that oppressing women uncivilizes us.

When men have the idea that we automatically have dominion over half of humanity an obvious question becomes “why not have dominion over the rest?” And when men believe we can automatically ignore the agency of half of humanity, rob them of their power, and use them as objects of our own convenience or gratification it’s a quick leap to “why not make similar use of all of humanity?”

Where Goldberg goes wrong is he thinks that just giving women enough power to better withhold sex creates civilization. Instead it’s that taking away any power from women as a class makes us all uncivilized.

And once you get that it’s easy to see how, in this case, his plea to give women a little bit of power so that they can trade sex instead of just having it taken from them, is completely anti-feminist. And uncivilized.


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Definitions: It Might Have Made More Sense If They'd Called it "Grandpatriarchy"

In comments over at FeministCritics, where I’ve been trying to explain why I think skepticism about feminism is way, way, way less important that skepticism about mainstream anti-feminism ought to be, typhonblue said

My problem with feminism is where it doesn’t challenge ‘patriarchial’ notions of male disposability, responsibility and moral inferiority. Additionally, it’s very obvious to me that ‘patriarchal’ notions of male disposability lead to a situations in which a woman is valued far, far, far more for her femaleness then her personhood; which I find profoundly offensive.

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I also find the notion of ‘patriarchy’ incoherent.

Maybe it’s just me but I think the notion of patriarchy is actually pretty straightforward. Here’s what I think it means (or at least where it came from) and how I think both the ideas of women’s value as property and men’s disposability come from values handed down from that system.

Formal political capital-p Patriarchy was and in some places still is the organization of society into extended multi-generational families, “houses,” or clans. Inside that system the extended family is held to be more important than any member in it. Except, maybe, whoever was the titular head. (Though even then it’s presumed their privilege comes from the decisions they make on behalf of the family.) That the heads of those houses were almost always men isn’t as important as the fact that they were the most senior relative in their particular branch of their family. They were more likely to be grandfathers or, occasionally, grandmothers of extended families than fathers or mothers of contemporary nuclear families.

Under political/economic patriarchy alliances are made through marriage — the idea being that if your children are married and, more important, their children are both descendants of the respective household heads, then betrayal would be literally an abandonment of one’s own flesh and blood.

Technically under patriarchy children of both sexes are “given” in marriage to form alliances with other houses. In theory (and often in practice) subordinate family members were given no more real say in who they were to marry than a suitcase full of money or a deed to piece of property would be.

In practice, though, women family members were often given in marriage to particularly “worthy” male outsiders — soldiers, say, or wealthy individuals. The stereotypical example of the latter would be when a king announced his daughter’s hand in marriage to whoever won a major tournament. (Or, in mythology, slew a dragon.) In other words it was possible for an ambitious or particularly infatuated man to “earn” a desired woman (or at least an alliance to her family) by pleasing her father and family interest.

And if the striving man dies in battle? Well, that’s male disposability for you — the king gives his daughter to the guy (possibly even the enemy who killed the first guy) and even though the first guy is dead and the daughter has to put out for and have offspring by some guy she has no interest in (and in the case of war might not even speak the same language as) the family, and its leader, come out ahead.

While that sort of formal organization isn’t as major as it once was you can still see it in operation of it in, say, the polygamy of the FLDS where wives are used as a way to accumulate property and/or influence and where marriage is denied to “excommunicated” men and boys. You can also hear about it from time to time in Afghanistan when “clan leaders” a.k.a. family heads settle violent disputes by “giving” female family members to rival families.

So that’s patriarchy: a hierarchical system in which both individual men’s and women’s interests… and even their physical bodies… may be sacrificed for the “good” of the family or community. It makes (nearly all) men disposable, reduces women to the desirability and utility of their bodies, uses access to sex as a way to reward men for earning or to punish men by withholding all while treating women’s desire and preferences as a really annoying interference. Oh, and it makes marriage a financial transaction where, generally, the man brings in wealth or at least productivity and the woman brings sex and, for extra credit, childcare and domestic labor.

You can see how under that system

  • it’s a really, really bad idea for women to have, say, financial independence or equal earning power.
  • it would be really bad for men to ever get the idea that they didn’t have to a job, or a car, or money, or a fancy place, or else maybe lies, or pure grain alcohol in the punch, or a dark alley for women to be willing or even champing at the bit to love them or make love with them.
  • it would be a really bad idea for anyone to get the idea that woman who admitted or demonstrated that she just really enjoyed sex with men because it felt really, really good wasn’t a “bimbo” or a “slut” or a “whore” or “crazy” or “wild” or “childlike and naive” or otherwise unusual and maybe broken but was instead a normal, healthy human being.
  • it would be really, really bad for men to get the idea that 90-95% of women with full economic, political, social and especially biological independence and self-determination would still want and like men.
  • it would be really, really bad for men to get the idea they don’t have to die for love either in feats of derring do to “get the girls” or in the slow, Willie Loman sense of grinding one’s self into an early grave to keep them.
  • it would be really, really bad if men ever got the idea that wives, sweethearts, mothers, sisters, and daughters — feminist or otherwise — really don’t want their husbands, sweethearts, sons, brothers, and fathers “disposably” dying young, or even early on their behalf

You can also see how under a system like that

  1. any woman with a brain would take one look and think “woah, that’s fucked up, I don’t want any part of this.”
  2. any woman with a brain would get pretty exasperated that men kept falling for the sucker role the system assigns them

With minor variations items #1 and #2 encompass almost all of “mainstream” feminism. Substitute “any woman or man or any age, race, class, or body” any time you see the words “woman” or “man” in clauses #1 and #2 and you’re got an emerging consensus in feminism. Of which I’m very comfortable considering myself a part: I have a brain and I think the system’s fucked up and I don’t want any part of it and I get pretty exasperated whenever men, and women, keep falling into the sucker roles the system wants to assign them.


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