Fran Langum of Blue Gal raises one of those points that frustrate the dickens out of transactional traditional-values types (emphasis mine)
I came across this LA Times article about a plastic made in China gadget which allows a woman to “fake” virginity, presumably on her wedding night. It’s got jockstraps-in-a-twist for the double-standard bearers of the right wing Islamic world.
And no where in the debate is the sense that women are supposed to enjoy themselves sexually either before or after marriage. We don’t hear from the female sex partners, to put the term most generically, of Ensign, Sanford, Vitter, and even Letterman as to whether or not they enjoyed the sex.
Well certainly not! The no-sex class paradigm’s Rule of Desire #1 says it’s simultaneously intolerable and inconceivable for a woman to have sexual desire. In a system where heterosexual sex is supposed to be transactional (i.e. men get sex and women get security, love, support, gifts, money, not getting beaten up, etc in exchange) it would be totally inconvenient if women enjoyed the actual sex part of sex! That would be like a dollar bill suddenly having a say in where it was spent.
(Sheesh, Cosmopolitan writers and editors get the Two Rules of Desire 100% right 100% of the time and they’re morons! So how hard can it be? But I digress…)
Twisting the knife on no-sex class cultural assumptions Blue Gal passes along the following little joke that’s made the rounds.
Q: What did the prostitute do for David Vitter that his wife wouldn’t?
A. Everything.
Ha. Ha-ha-ha! You see… he’d already done the wedding-ring transaction, see, and he’d gotten in trouble with her before about some sort of sexual peccadillos, see, which means that even if she had been interested in sex (which would be intolerable and inconceivable) she’d be off the hook for sex. Get it? See, and even if she was still on the hook she’d still withhold sex to punish him. Got it? No, see, prostitutes do things human women won’t because they’re paid to. Or, even better, because they’re coerced! Because, see, even prostitutes — and you know they’re all women! — wouldn’t do it if they either a) weren’t force into it or b) weren’t so greedy and avaricious they were willing to hold their noses and do it for mon… are you paying attention? This is serious! Because you won’t get that it’s funny!
Sheesh, Maxim writers and editors get jokes like that 100% right 100% of the time and they’re morons! So how hard can it be? But I digress…
Getting back to Fran’s original question, inside the dominant paradigm it’s in incredibly bad taste to ask whether Vitter’s, Letterman’s or anyone else’s partners enjoyed sex with them. Just identifying them as having had sex (marred or not, willingly or not, whether they enjoyed it or not) would rob them of the opportunity to use one of those plastic virginity things from China with male partner so he could at least pretend he was getting something of value. Even to suggest they might have enjoyed it would further reduce the exchange value of their sexuality. Inside the dominant paradigm to identify one of the partners at all could still (literally in some cultures) destroy her.
(Yes, outside the dominant paradigm there are matters of sexual harassment by employers, general and not just sexual rights to privacy, and whether there was choice in the matter. There’s also the little matter of professional stigma where career advancement based on merit can tarnished by assumptions about favoritism and/or compensation for sexual behavior. And outside it there’s even a perfectly non-controversial presumption that, y’know, to the extent they were grownups who decided to have sex then yeah, they probably enjoyed themselves. But inside it that’s just crazy talk.)
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There are a lot of other really good points in Fran’s post. She tackles some disturbing public perceptions about the agency of Britney Spears and her younger sister and of men who feel entitled to have sex with them. She raises the issue of what she calls the orgasm gap — the time, sometimes years, between when women first have intercourse and when they have their first (possibly non-solo) orgasms. Go check it out.
Well this is kind of weird. Ampersand of Alas, a blog passes along one of those classic gotcha stories that combine double standards, overzealous prosecutors, and young people exchanging nude photography…
Reading, Pennsylvania: Where you get three years in prison for taking consensual nude pictures of your girlfriend, but cops who expose their penises in the office aren’t penalized at all.
... that for some reason I foolishly started following links back through the story. And discovered that, as they say on Facebook, “it’s complicated.” There’s more to it than will fit in any two-sentence summary.
Let’s get the willy-waiving policeman out of the way first: According to The Agitator (the site Ampersand links to) a Pennsylvania police officer was reinstated after an arbitrator determined he was improperly fired because his employers (the police supervisor he exposed himself to?) didn’t follow “progressive disciplinary guidelines, which involve a series of verbal and written warnings.” (That would be “progressive” in the procedural rather than political sense.)
The child-porn conviction business, though, just keeps getting deeper and weirder.
Most surface/gotcha-level view of the story: man convicted earlier for possessing naked photos of his then-17-year-old wife is sent to prison for 3 years for failing to notify a sex-offender registry of a change of address. Extra irony/quirk/outrage/overreach/whatever: his now-adult wife and child they had together are now an impoverished single-mother family and will remain so till the husband gets out of prison around 2012. Ouch, right?
Well, yes, ouch. The next complication, though, from the Reading (Pennsylvania) Eagle after the man was originally convicted: in 2003 a 23-year-old man has a hotel-room party with his 17-year-old girlfriend who takes pictures of the two of them having sex, and of two other girls, 15 and 16, kissing, touching, and showering naked. Girlfriend swears she took the photos and made a photo album of them and then gave it to him.
Ok, that’s more complicated but still way more of a sorrow-than-anger situation. (Update: Making the very big assumption that since court and news reports don’t say otherwise that contact was limited to his fiance and she really did take all the photos. But in current comments Sungold is persuading me to lean towards her interpretation, in which case eww, and throw the book at him.)
Except there’s the next level complication: The man allegedly kept the photo album in his vehicle for a year. It didn’t turn up till he had a traffic accident and a police officer found the album in his car. Oh, and they didn’t just charge him with child porn they also charged him with providing alcohol to minor.
Yeah, I’m starting to feel a little sympathy fading too here. Tough, and all that, but still, WTF, right? Well, yeah.
It gets even more complicated though.
The police officer who found the photo album was the man’s brother in law (or possibly his step-brother.)
The brother-in-something held on to the album for a year before someone else on the police force found it in his desk. When police searched his computer they found 120 other photos of naked minors.
That too got complicated. The brother-in-something was charged with possession of child-pornograhy but, since the photo album was evidence against the original man he wasn’t charged for possessing that.
It gets even more complicated: first, it sounds like the man and his erstwhile partner are separated. So it’s not clear what’s going on with her. And comments by a local in one of the articles said the brother-in-something eventually escaped conviction, which sounds like a bit more of a scandal — the photos aren’t characterized but it doesn’t sound like they were of people he was involved with.
But wait! It gets even more complicated! The brother-in-something was actually convicted and sentenced to six months house arrest. For possessing those 120 computer photos. Oh, and peeping in windows. So there you go.
Meanwhile the original man, having served his original sentence, is still back in prison for three years under the state’s Megan’s Law provisions for failing to let authorities know he’d moved.
So end of the story? Yes, it’s scandalous that a different police officer was reinstated after exposing himself to his superior and a bystander.
And yes it’s on-balance unfortunate that the man went to prison a second time after serving what may have been a shorter first sentence for exercising what could only optimistically be called really, really, really bad judgment and somewhat more generously for canoodling with someone still a minor but past the age of consent and… her two minor friends who certainly weren’t. And not-at-all generously, for either getting minor children drunk, having sex with one of them, and taking and keeping naked photos with them, or, nearly as bad, getting drunk and naked with minor children and keeping the resulting photos. No really good way to spin that and… it’s not really clear why one would bother.
I’ve still got questions, though, about double standards on police vs. civilian conduct. Because one final Reading Eagle story, on the conviction of the brother-in-something adds one final complication. Turns out it wasn’t the brother-in-something who found the photo album in the first man’s truck after an accident. Instead some other officer found it and turned it over to the brother-in-something. Who put it in his desk. Where it was discovered a little more than a year later by someone else. Who, if I’ve got the chronology right, may actually have been investigating allegations of window peeping. But, having finally seen the light of day, resulted in charges against the original man for child porn, the brother for otherwise-unrelated child porn… but not withholding evidence… and… what?... disciplinary charges? Tampering with evidence charges? Nothing at all? ...for the officer who handed the photo album to the brother-in-law.
Point being that yeah, in its bare bones the story fits that two-line gotcha, “Reading, Pennsylvania: Where you get three years in prison for taking consensual nude pictures of your girlfriend, but cops who expose their penises in the office aren’t penalized at all.” But where the rest of the stories (I’m just a regular Paul Harvey, eh?) ought to raise even more eyebrows.
Another point about California State Assembly member Michael Duvall’s recent nominally self-flagellating (but actually self-serving) resignation announcement wherein he said
“I am deeply saddened that my inappropriate comments have become a major distraction…”
The comments, of course, weren’t comments so much as explicit bragging into what turned out to be an open microphone to a colleague about sex he was having with two lobbyists for a company his committee oversees.
Duvall had, until his resignation, a 100% favorability rating for “family values” from a right-wing group associated with the ultra-conservative Focus on the Family. And like many similar right-wing politicians Duvall had frequently capitalized on his good standing on morality issues to advance himself into a position where he could… easily have things to brag about to his colleagues, I guess.
That’s not at all uncommon. I’m pretty sure there are still whole websites dedicated to tracking the low crimes and misdemeanors of conservative politicians and public figures.
But! As I mentioned in the previous post check out how Duvall also uses the right’s scripts of disapproval of sex to deflect attention away from his much more serious, and also much more conventional transgressions: misuse of office, exploitation of power for personal gain, and public corruption.
If you find yourself talking about the salaciousness of his remarks (“eye-patch” underthings, dripping-wet legs) or the hypocrisy of his “sanctity of marriage” stands against Proposition 8, you’re buying into his framing of the transgression. Worse, you’re tacitly agreeing with the “family values” crew that that twittery rather than substance should be the emphasis on the next guy. And the next. And the next. Because they’ll be more, apologizing to their constituents and to their wives for hiring their “gals” from Central America (Randall Tobias) instead of pushing abstinence-only HIV prevention in Africa, wearing their diapers with escorts (David Vitters), cruising their airport bathrooms (Larry Craig), hiring the prostitutes they said they were arresting (Eliot Spitzer) instead of misuse of funds, and kiting off on the Appalachian Argentinian Trail (Mark Sanford) instead of dereliction of duty, and so on. And each time counting on the fact that while we’re squealing and squeezing our knees together over stuff their side says is immoral but that’s often not even illegal we’re disregarding their real scandals, which often are illegal… but they don’t seem to understand is immoral as well.
In principle there’s nothing wrong with sex with another person. Or, particularly, about bragging about it. Not even if you’re married, assuming your marriage partner is ok with it. Not even if your sex partner(s) are married, assuming it’s ok with their partners. There’s even nothing wrong with it even if you’re a California State Assemblyman.
Yeah, it gets a little iffier if you’re a California State Assemblyman with a 100% approval rating for “family values” voting from a subsidiary of the right-wing Focus on the Family, although it might not sit well with FoF to learn you’re actually an adulterous braggart.
There is a problem, however, if you’re a California State Assemblyman, and the chair of the Utilities and Commerce committee and your sex partners are paid lobbyists for an energy company your committee regulates! That’s the real story in the following video clip.
The real scandal? “The Assembly Legislative Ethics Committee is looking into the reports about Duvall’s alleged relationship with the lobbyist, a source close to the committee said this morning. “
Now we’re getting somewhere! People have sex. Sex is messy. Some people think messy sex is sexy. Other people think their way of doing sex is great and everyone else’s is gross. That’s not going anywhere.
What does need to go somewhere, though, is that he was doing these things with lobbyists. Because even if Duvall’s marital partner knew and approved, and even if his sex partner’s husbands knew and approved, it would still be a scandal that he was having sex with lobbyists for a company his committee has jurisdiction over.
It wouldn’t just be scandalous in terms of exchange of favors (which is how a lot of people seem to be reading it with their “little more than prostitutes” quips.) It would also be scandalous in terms of sexual-harassment-type power differentials between people seeking changes in legislation and someone in a position to make those changes.
Meanwhile people around the web seem to be focusing on the sex part. And the Focus-on-the-Family hypocrisy part.
But yes, by all means, go all knee-squeezy because someone had sex. Gag and heave all you like about his explicit language. And yes, definitely, absolutely take him to task for being the slimy hypocrite he is. But first put this man out of his chairmanship, off the committee, out of the Assembly, and, if possible, in jail for the real scandal of being that intimate with lobbyists or allowing them to be that intimate with him.
Those of us on the left are even more likely than those on the right to stop at twittery about sex at the expense of substance.
Update: According to the L.A. Times Duvall is resigning (emphasis mine)
“I am deeply saddened that my inappropriate comments have become a major distraction for my colleagues in the Assembly, who are working hard on the very serious problems facing our state,” he said in a statement posted on his website. “I have come to the conclusion that it would not be fair to my family, my constituents or to my friends on both sides of the aisle to remain in office. Therefore, I have decided to resign my office, effective immediately, so that the Assembly can get back to work.”
No, he’s not deeply saddened about his comments. He’s instead deeply hoping that knee-squeezing twittery about having sex with another decision-capable adult will trump the substance of potential criminal wrongdoing of a decidedly non-sexual nature. It’s not his inappropriate comments, or the specific sexual activities he was describing when he made those comments. It’s that he was literally in bed with lobbyists for an energy company his committee is supposed to be regulating.
Oh, and while I was Googling around for a post I’m writing up at my place I found a note at SF Gate that the energy company may have instead hired the lobbyists specifically because of her prior sexual access to him. In which case not only should he face trial and jail, so should the lobbyists and the corporate staff that hired them.
(I first found out about the Duvall story from Pam Spaulding.)
Via Bill of Portland Maine, senior blogger at Daily Kos from a couple of weeks ago
“I know where I’m going to go on my next break. I’m going to the C Street House in Washington, D.C. You know what this is? It’s kind of a frat house for Christian congressman, where they live and pray together and counsel each other on how to adhere to the nine commandments.”
—-Bill Maher
Maher isn’t particularly my cup of tea but credit where credit’s due: it’s a good line.
For those who haven’t heard, the C Street House, owned by a elitist, Christian-like cult that falls into the same traps the Jesus warned Pharisees they had fallen into, is pretty much what Maher implies it is — a place where those who imagine they’re going to Heaven can kick back and enjoy freedom from the heavy and grievous burdens they bind to the shoulders of the rest of us. Mark Ensign lived there, Mark Sanford hung out there, now it turns out another canoodling Republican Congressman, Charles Pickering similarly enjoyed himself while living there.
#@!*$%~
Hexy, guest posting at Feministe, says of the Florida mayor who was recently fired because his wife works in porn,
According to this article, Janke’s wife’s occupation raised concerns about whether he could “remain effective”. This line jumped out at me:
“When you become a public figure you are held to a different level of scrutiny and ethics,” Babcock said.
And, you know, that surprised me, because I don’t see any unusual ethics here. The Madonna/whore dichotomy, the whole idea that certain women are marked as OK to fuck, but not the type you take home? That’s a standard I see everywhere in day to day life.
In other words what different standards?
Hexy goes on to say the couple seemed to have been together long enough to parent teenage children, which would tend to imply that any alleged character flaws in the couple probably would have been noticeable before and when he was elected in the first place. Although being able to successfully parent teenagers in the first place might have been a clue that maybe she, and by extension he, didn’t have ZOMG TEH MYTHICAL SEX-WORKER DISEASED FEEIND!!! cooties on them in the first place. Because for the most part sex-worker diseased-fiend cooties tend to be, well, mythical.
And not to put too fine a point on it, as of the 2000 census Ft. Meyer’s Beach, Florida, had a population of only 6561. Consider everything mainstream stereotyping “knows” about small-southern-town mayors. When you think about that you might start wondering whether the porn company was exercising poor judgment in not holding the mayor’s wife to higher scrutiny and standards and firing her! Oh but that would be silly right? Because, maybe I guess, what everybody “knows” about porn actors are true but what everybody “knows” about mayors isn’t?
David M. Herszenhorn of NYT’s The Caucus reports that
Senator John Ensign, Republican of Nevada, on Tuesday admitted that he had an extramarital affair with a member of his campaign staff.
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During college at Colorado State University, he became a born-again Christian and he and his wife, Darlene, were active in the Promise Keepers, an evangelical group.
For what its worth Sen. Ensign didn’t support Rick Santorum’s homophobic “Defense of Marriage” amendment to the constitution (which during the high tide of the Republican dominance of the government was the stick that beat so many otherwise progressive politicians like Sen. Clinton into voting for the under-the-circumstances less onerous, but still odious alternative, the Defense of Marriage Act.)
Update The NYT article was evidently mistaken… or maybe just not looking at the right time frame. In 2004 Ensign’s office issued a press release that said “protecting [marriage] is, in my mind, worth the extraordinary step of amending our constitution.” (Via ThinkProgress.)
Also for what it’s worth, during the so-called Monica Lewinsky scandal when Ensign was running against Sen. Harry Reid in 1998 David Rosenbaum, also from the New York Times, wrote
No one knows how the scandal involving President Clinton will affect the race. A Democratic poll this month showed that Mr. Clinton is seen in a worse light by voters here than he is nationally.
Mr. Ensign has called for the President to resign. But he does not bring up the matter unless he is asked, and he is rarely asked.
The good news? Ensign may be conservative but he appears to be fairly live and let live about people’s personal affairs… and, I guess, Affairs.
On the other hand he did call for President Clinton to resign over his peccadilloes and so, I suppose, if he was honest he’d resign from his office as well.
Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight says
Remember, senators don’t have to govern, or to preside over any legislature. They don’t have any particular use for political capital, and other than their ability to be re-elected, they don’t have any particular reason to popular. That’s why Eliot Spitzer resigned and David Vitter (whom many Louisanans seem to have forgiven) didn’t. It’s why Roland Burris is still in the Senate.
Final thought though, goes to Matthew Yglesias, reflecting a few weeks ago on the different standards progressives and right-wing extremists are held to by constituents, peers, and the press, said
Logically speaking, since there’s only one of the two parties that puts a very high premium on the idea that state regulation of individual sexual behavior should be the main role of government, these allegations should be more damaging to Republicans. Hypocrisy on the part of the media is part of the story. But part of the issue, I think, is just partisan and ideological solidarity. A politician can survive a great deal if his co-partisans are willing to stand by him, and conservatives are much more inclined to stand by their man than are progressives.
I too wish Ensign would either resign or else not resign but apologize instead for having sided so often with prigs in his party.
I’m not holding my breath for either.
See also Echidne who (half-seriously, she says) asks a serious question
Why does Senator Ensign need to apologize publicly for his affair but not for having belonged to Promise Keepers?
Good question, E.
Samhita of Feministing has a great take on the… unfortunate David Letterman joke about one of the women in the Palin family
Letterman apologized last night and while I think Letterman’s jokes were in poor taste, let’s not forget that Palin’s actual stance that has been legislated and made into policy is far worse. Does this make joking about her or her daughters OK? Definitely not. But watching those two women duke it out, I think it is so interesting listening to conservative women use feminist talking points. It is smart and calculated and plays so well into the often rudimentary understanding Americans have about the fight for women’s rights.
Should Letterman lose his job over his women-hating, misogyny-enforcing, insensitive, tin-eared, offensive, intrusive joke? (Not over writing it, which he didn’t, but over not just plain balking when it showed up on his cue-card handler’s queue.)
Well, it seems a little harsh, and he has apologized, and he probably won’t do it again but… yeah, maybe I wouldn’t fire him (not knowing the entire decision-making process or who else has already been disciplined or fired for letting the joke get as far as his cue cards) but I wouldn’t shed tears if someone else did.
But Samhita points out he just made a joke. Gov. Palin and a whole raft of her ilk have not only advocated but signed women-hating, misogyny-enforcing, insensitive, tin-eared, offensive, intrusive legislation into law! And not only are they not embarrassed about it, not only are they not apologizing, and not only are they bragging about it, they’re actively and openly planning more of the same… and in the process appropriating not only the tactics of those they would oppress but the language!
And not to put too fine a point on it but that they know the tactics and language of feminism makes their opposition to it more, not less women-hating, misogyny-enforcing, insensitive, tin-eared, offensive, and intrusive.
Why are they going to be asked to resign or be fired?
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Quick note: ever since Reagan administration spin-meisters architected the “news cycle” there’s been a tendency to imagine that only one thing can be done at once or that attention can be paid to only one initiative, event, or scandal at a time. And so if you were used to that philosophy you might mistake my greater condemnation of Palin et. al as some sort of negative, “bigger fish to fry” defense of Letterman. Au contraire! One of the coolest thing about the Obama era is it turns it’s perfectly possible to do two things at once. Maybe even more! No reason, therefore, to let Palin or Letterman off the hook.
Matthew Yglesias points to more (right-leaning) twits vs. substance reporting, this time in the context of erstwhile New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer’s long-running battles to rein in AIG and other criminal enterprises on Wall Street. (Emphasis his.)
Michael Hill writes for the AP about Eliot Spitzer’s long struggle with AIG, his return to the spotlight, and the dim prospects for a Spitzer comeback: “It would be a long shot. The trail for a married politician caught soliciting high-priced prostitutes would likely be prohibitively steep.”
I have to say that I don’t really understand this. If soliciting prostitutes doesn’t ruin your career in Louisiana politics, why should it ruin your career in New York politics?
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...the concern about the sex scandal is almost entirely a “meta” thing, people think it’s too bad that other people see Spitzer as too tainted.
Remember, the issue with twittery isn’t that the target is innocent of the lapses in question: Spitzer unquestionably sexually cheated on his partner and broke sexual-conduct laws that, as a prosecutor, he himself would have attempted to aggressively prosecute. No, instead, especially in this case, the issue with twittery is that those who most resented his efforts to police their financial peccadilloes and who have the greatest interest in avoiding scrutiny (someone, say, who has no qualms about donating to Sen. Vitter’s reelection campaign) can simply whisper “high-end prostitute“ and all substance, pro or con, falls by the wayside.
And, as Yglesias says, they needn’t even say “I’m concerned about Spitzer’s reputation,” which for better or worse very few people… including his accusers… seem to be. Instead they can only say “I’m concerned other people will be.”
[Scroll to the end of this post to see the photo, but first… —fl]
While answering a serious question about disclosure in the context monogamy and sexual exclusivity Hugo Schwyzer offered an aside about sexually-oriented self-photography.
...the issue of nude photos has changed enormously since the advent of the digital camera and the internet. Back in “my day”, it was difficult to get naked amateur pictures developed; many developers would simply throw away any film (including the negatives) that they judged obscene. I recall that a number of my friends, valuing their privacy, took Polaroids as a result of this longing for discretion and a permanent reminder of either nakedness or a specific sexual encounter. Today, with film more or less a thing of the past, it’s much easier to take  and more ominously, easier to send  naked photos of oneself…
I don’t know what percentage of young people today take naked pictures of themselves and their friends with digital cameras. I imagine quite a few do, and that promises to delete the photos are as unreliable as similar promises about burning love letters were in the past. One waits for, oh, about 2025, when a Supreme Court nominee is forced to withdraw his or her name from consideration after nude pictures and a salacious college Myspace profile are uncovered by zealous journalists. And then, by 2045 or so, the ubiquity of these pictures and the cyber-indiscretions of the once-young will be so commonplace that this sort of thing will not be a disqualifier for high office. So, bottom line, I don’t think that the existence of amateur naked photos is going to remain a serious issue for years to come. What was once shocking will very quickly become banal, as is the way of most things.
Unfortunately even with some sort of futuristic rejuvenation technology, by 2045 I’ll probably be too old to serve on the Supreme Court. Because, among other things if there’s rejuvenation technology then members of the court who are my age will… still be on there! :-) But I otherwise agree with Hugo’s point. Although I’m guessing he’s being pretty conservative about that. Of course I may be too optimistic but I’d say it’ll be a lot closer to 2025 than 2045 before a history of half-nekkid photography stops counting even as “youthful indiscretion.” And not because we’ll all be too jaded or porn saturated but because it already hasn’t had much impact on either the popularity, public opinion of, or career of numerous public figures.
The most famous instance would have been “Dr. Laura” Schlessinger. According to Wikipedia the arch-conservative icon was outed 11 or 12 years ago as having posed for nude self-taken or taken-by-a-partner photos in her own youth. She’s still going strong. She’s not a lawyer so I’m not sure some future conservative President would nominate her to the Supreme Court… but then she’s not actually a doctor either and that hasn’t stopped her either.
The point, though, is that such photos aren’t just now really common, they’ve already been common for a pretty long time. And it’s not that everybody’s done it. It’s that pretty much everybody knows someone who has.
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I took these photos after waking up from a nap on the couch (nothing like a 600+ page technical manual to knock you out.) Anyway my camera happened to be within arm’s reach. Part of me was still waking up, and as often happens with sleeping men, another part was awake before I was… but duty called so I hopped up, grabbed another cup of coffee, and then it was back to the books. But if you’d caught me in my sleep I’d have looked very much like the following photos.
Happy HNT (or Half-nekkid Thursday!)


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