porn for women

Briefly in NYC Playing Tourist

Don’t ask how I got here, or why, but I’m in New York tomorrow (Thursday) and early Friday. I arrived in time to catch the last hour of NYC Feministing Happy Hour, sponsored by the bloggers at Feministing and ParadigmShift NYC (their motto: “Use the F word.”)

As usual I was too shy to introduce myself to anyone I hadn’t met before (if there’s anything more useless than being a shy extrovert) but then someone else, another newcomer, introduced herself just as I was about to leave. We talked for a few minutes and then I saw Rachel Kramer Bussel (who for some reason I keep running into all over the country) and suddenly had two people I could introduce. :-) And suddenly, ice broken, we had a nice conversation about erotica for women.

Rachel’s got a new book out, and I mean literally just out — she’d just gotten copies herself, called Fast Girls: Erotica for Women. I didn’t take a copy, though she generously offered me one, because I seriously don’t know when I’d have time to read it. But it looked pretty good.

It was good to talk with her about that — she felt a little singled out last year by Mathilde Madden and Kristina Lloyd in their issue-advocacy blog Erotica Cover Watch. Madden and Lloyd were forcefully advocating for what they called “man candy” on the covers of books and magazines when their content is written by and for heterosexual women. The tendency in the publishing industry, even for highly-progressive women-owned, women-focused publishers, is to put women on the covers. Rachel is generally sympathetic to the sentiment but said that when she’d brought it up in the past publishers told her that in genre-branding terms consumers assume men on the cover signal that the content is written for gay men while women on the cover signal more general-purpose porn… which incidentally may contain gay-male content. Rachel, who’s pretty pragmatic about it (and points out that authors and editors rarely get more than “no, not that one” veto power over covers anyway) while Madden and Lloyd were specifically trying to rock that boat.

Anyway it was pretty clear that whether that was the intention or not she felt like she was being attacked and not just her ideas. I personally happen to believe, strongly, that Madden, Lloyd, and others are right that that boat needs to be rocked I think it’s also important to remember that the people on the receiving end exist as, well, people as well as online personas. That doesn’t necessarily mean we should back off when we feel strongly that someone else is mistaken. It does mean, though, that our posts often have more impact than we imagine.

For the record, Rachel’s new book does have the genre brand of a woman on the front cover. What struck me, though, is there’s another picture of the same woman on the back and in that one she’s making direct, intelligent, and confidingly confident eye contact with the reader. Which, if publishers are going to insist on their genre cliché‘s might be a nice way to “brand’ the sub-genre of erotica for women. Assuming their faces are shown at all — not a safe assumption in the first place — women on the covers of most general-purpose erotica are generally shown looking inward or away.

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Oh, and because I stayed to talk instead of shyly going home early I was there for a raffle drawing. And I won a gift certificate for my choice of writing and ethical-leadership workshops from the Woodhull Institute! Which looks cool but also looks like they’re all set in New York (one’s in San Francisco) so if you’re interested and in or near New York and you’d like a $100 discount to one of the workshops drop me a line and I’ll mail you the certificate.

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Shyness notwithstanding I had a great time. Maybe next time I’ll introduce myself to someone else first. :-)

Significant Problem at Naked Men / Happy Women Blog

Note: All links in this post have NSFW content.

So via a @filamentmag tweet I found the website Naked Men, Happy Women, by essiegabi. But she’s got a significant problem.

Since I’ve long been irked by the dearth of representations of men in visual erotica that aren’t by or for other men (either as objects of desire for gay men, or as proxies or foils for hetero men) her About Page is near and dear to my heart.

Nowadays images of naked women are commonly shown everywhere; in advertisements, commercials, games and movies, art, on billboards and on TV. A naked female body is pleasant to look at, so no complaints here. But something is missing, isn’t there?

Have you, like me, been wondering why there is so little male nudity in every day life for us hetero sexual women to enjoy? Do you agree it is unfair to say the least, and do you want to see more? Then this blog is the perfect blog for you. Naked men, happy women, aka NMHW, is created to discuss various related topics with you, to post examples of how things could/should be, and to find ways to change the current situation to our advantage. It is about time men catch up with us when it comes to showing their goodies, and even more for us women to tell them what we want.

She said it here.

But she’s got a significant problem.

The images she captures really aren’t what you see in male-oriented porn. Including so-called “Clothed Female, Naked Men” or CFNM fetish sites that are… also generally considered male-oriented. One thing that stands out, or maybe doesn’t, is that when penises are shown they’re almost never erect. Another is that the men might be erotically posed but not erotically poised — they look neither dominantly nor submissively ready, and they don’t look sexually needy. Instead the photos essiegabi selects are relaxed men with clear potential to be sexual. Oh yeah, and while the men are generally under age 40 (and mostly under 30) and none seem overweight, neither are they all athletically or militarily buff. In other words they tend to look the way a lot of women say they like to see men, as opposed to what men seem to think women like… or as opposed to how men expect other men to look.

I like the site quite a lot, and if you’re turned on by heterosexual men you may like it even more. But there’s a significant problem. Essiegabie explains the problem

Oh no, it is Tuesday already. Where is our new hottie?!
I have to admit it: I am running out of stock…
After hours of surfing the net and almost giving up hope, I finally found this image.

She said it here.

If she wanted images of eroticized women she could find them anywhere up to and including the covers of Sukudo puzzle books. If she wanted images of men in stylized porn-for-men situations she’d have to look a little further than the nearest grocery store aisle but such images are still abundant on magazine racks and online…

But if she wants to find images that work for her she’s evidently got to work really hard. Considering that there may be literally (not figuratively) millions of porn sites out there, with anywhere from tens to hundreds of million images, and considering that you can almost play “Pornsite Bingo” by Googling a completely random words and the word “porn” and find someone who’s already made a fetish site for it with surprising regularity, it’s a real surprise she’d have any trouble at all…

And yet…

It appears to be a significant problem.

Tao of Geek Tackles Rule of Desire #1

Terri of Geek Feminism Blog says

You’re probably all familiar with the inverse law of fantasy armour for women: the less the armour covers, the more it somehow miraculously protects. Liz Walsh writes and draws the entertaining web comic Tao of Geek and I quite enjoyed her story about Naomi campaigning not for sensible armour for women, but in equal cheesecake for her male barbarian character.

The story starts here and if you don’t have a whole lot of time, you should at least check out the final punchline here.

Read the quote in context here.

Two good ones from the middle of the series (click to see them full-size at Tao of Geek.)

Tao of Geek Copyright © 2002-2010 Liz Walsh

Tao of Geek Copyright © 2002-2010 Liz Walsh

Further on in the series Walsh makes not one but two points in dialogue. A couple of passers by say “We don’t want female characters covered up” and “We like looking at pretty women” and Walsh’s character Naomi replies “No one’s saying you don’t! I don’t want to cover up women, I want to have sexy armor for all.” To which the uncomprehending passers-by repeat “We like looking at pretty women.”

Oh, and extra credit for the slash-fic reference here. (Note: Hmm… I wonder if slash fiction, which can be barkingly pornographic, continually flies under the bogus Rules of Desire is because even though both authors and readers are overwhelmingly female nearly all the the sex in slash fiction is between male characters.)

Filament Magazine Review -- Arousing for Straight Women, Inspiring for Their Partners


Photo by Ara Maye McBay from Filamentmagazine.com

I mentioned last week that I’d ordered a copy of the first issue of Filament Magazine because their regular printers had found interesting excuses for refusing to print their second issue.

Filament, in case you’ve missed their booming word-of-mouth campaign, bills itself as a non-fashion magazine for straight women that features erotic photos of men that are also for straight women.

The articles are great. They’re more like something you’d read in Ms. or Utne Reader than something specifically designed the way Slate’s Double-X or Gawker’s Jezebel are to capture advertising for the “women’s market.” (I spotted only two ads — one for an online sports-bra retailer, another for vision-protecting vitamins.)

The photos are pretty cool too and that’s a surprise for me. I’m usually pretty neutral about men’s bodies but also often a bit squicked by the way men are presented in porn meant for men. I don’t identify with the men in gay porn, and I really don’t identify with the contortions men in straight porn are put through in order to preserve lines of sight to their partner’s bodies.

The photos in Filament are kind of eye-opening even though or maybe because they’re not for me! I look at them and don’t think “where would I fit in” the way men are sort of meant to in for-men porn. Instead I keep thinking is that how a partner would like to see me? or did I look like that when I was 20? Also (blush!) I kept thinking what would I do but what would a partner want to do to me! Or want me to do to her! A feeling I really don’t get from porn for men because, at least for me, porn for men is about knowing exactly what I’d like to do next.

There’s also a cool sense of drama in some of them — not so much scenarios or the fabled “plot lines” as visual and atmospheric context that goes beyond “m’kay, here’s what the model looks like with out a top; here’s what the model looks like in undies; here’s what the model looks like lying on a bed; here’s what the model looks like giving/getting/watching this or that sex act” you see more of in industrial porn for men.

Point being that I enjoyed reading the articles I was inspired by the photography.

Bottom line? It’s the sort of magazine I’d enjoy reading in bed. With a partner. Not so much one-handed reading as three-handed. :-)

Progress on Erotica Cover Watch's Campaign for More Men on Covers for Straight Women

Kristina Lloyd of Erotica Cover Watch has a fun post about an erotic romance anthology for women that went from a bottom-seller to best seller when they changed the title and cover art.

Cecilia Tan, editor of the anthology, got in touch with Erotica Cover Watch to tell about this ‘victory for the female gaze’. When MILF Fantasies was first released as an ebook early in 2009, it barely sold. Cecilia was informed it was one of Ravenous Romance’s worst selling anthologies. Then the book was repackaged, the pretty woman on the cover vanished and along came three young dudes baring their rock hard abs – result! Within days, the book shot into RR’s top ten.

Read the quote in context here.

She explains a bit of publisher insider strategy and adds

Ravenous Romance are primarily an erotic romance publisher. As we know, there’s beefcake aplenty on romance covers because, in catering explicitly to women, the genre doesn’t have to worry about deterring male consumers. But RR are also publishing straight erotica such as Young Studs (contributors include names familiar to anyone who reads smut: Rachel Kramer Bussel, Elizabeth Coldwell, Andrea Dale, Sage Vivant) and, because these are ebooks, again the publisher needn’t fret about passing guys going all weird at the sight of another guy with his kit off. As Cecilia wrote: ‘What [RR] have found is that the ebook audience is so overwhelmingly female that the “normal” rules of erotica publishing (you know the ones, the ones that say a woman has to be on the cover) Do Not Apply.‘

I think this is progress. Sure, we want to see men and couples on covers that exist in spaces other than those reserved for women. We want men to be sexualised in the way women are sexualised. We want het erotica for men and women to be represented by men and women on the covers. It’s called equality. And if ebooks can nudge erotica publishing in that direction, I’m happy.

I think it’s progress too. If the shoe was on the other foot I’d be pretty vexed if the cover of every erotica title for straight men featured only straight men on the cover. Not because I wouldn’t identify with the men, and not because I’d be squicked, but because… c’mon, identifying with and being interested in are pretty different things. And since men and women tend to be more alike than different, I have to assume you’d feel the same way.

Oh, one last thing, dear to my own personal, self-interested heart. Lloyd concludes here post with

Ravenous Romance are boldly targeting their erotica at women – and the strategy is clearly successful.

Look what’s riding high in their charts right now: The DILF Anthology

I mean, no one would dream of designing a book like that to market to straight men, would they?

Far be it from me to complain about that!

Incremental Progress But Still Progress: "Almost One-Third of Men Are Now Principal Shoppers in the Household"

Sadie of Jezebel says

n the last 20 years, household roles have shifted: whereas the supermarket used to be the woman’s domain, today “almost one-third of men are now the principal shoppers in the household.”

Read Sadie’s quote in context here.

This isn’t exactly breaking news to the principal shoppers in households. This is good news though.

The sooner we can get to really, serious equal divisions of labor the sooner we’ll get away from that egregious “there’s nothing sexier than a man doing [some item of housework].” And towards, oh, say, “there’s nothing sexier than having lots of spare time for each other because all domestic tasks done in half the time because we split the work.”

If you’re an adult you can click here to see a not-very-work-safe housekeeping image.

Shere Hite Weighs In On the Dearth of Options In Depictions of Male Desire and Desirability

Via Petra Boynton, sex researcher Shere Hite, writing in The Indypendent, tackles a subject that’s very near and dear to my heart: the representation of hetero men in conventional pornography.

Pornography, it seems to me, presents a highly distorted image of men. While my research with thousands of men shows a different picture of “who men are sexually,” pornography imposes a rigid ideological view on male sexual feelings, expression and behavior. They are not the monolithic beings depicted in most porno images, nor do they find their authentic selves in pornography.

Ironically, pornography seems friendly to men — more than to women — but its underlying message makes fun of men. Subliminally, it tells men that their sexual expression is ridiculous, base, insensitive, even grotesque. Visually it frequently makes men look ugly and coarse, foolish and unappealing.

She said it here.

It’s almost cliché that women are presented as one-dimensional and cartoonish in porn. Critiques of women in porn are practically an industry unto itself. Extending that critique to men is rather refreshing.

An emerging criticism of her column and, presumably, her underlying work is that she misunderstands how men are depicted in porn. And while a quick tour this morning of popular porn upload sites like YouPorn and RedTube (we really are presented as almost voiceless, as always having and keeping erections, as uninterested in emotional contact or even non-penis physical contact) suggest she’s not that far off the mark.

But reading deeper into her column that’s not really her point. Even if everything that’s presented about men in porn was sexually enjoyable1 to do, what’s really important is that it’s a really, really limited set of the full range of sexually enjoyable things that men can do with a partner.

Hite speaks in particular to something I think men (and, often, even our partners) tend to shy away from in real life and, evidently, avoid like the plague in porn. Here’s Hite.

Men say they enjoy masturbation because they can fantasize about whatever they want and there is no pressure on them to perform. During masturbation, in my research, men stimulate themselves in many more places than they do when with a partner.

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But many men cut short foreplay because they are afraid they may lose the erection which they have been taught is necessary to enjoy sex and which would be “shameful” to lose. More men could reach much higher peaks of feeling and arousal if they did not feel anxious about how they should behave sexually.

The great middle of the bell-shaped curve of porn never goes there, never treats men as interesting or, especially, complicated or, quirkily, fun to play with. We’re remarkably fun to play with though.

I think it’s great that Hite has raised the question.

And hey, just in time for Kristina Lloyd’s Man Candy Monday photo over at porn-for-straight-women Erotica Cover Watch. Oh, and check out comments on this porn-for-women post by Jessica Freely.

And if you’re an adult you can click here for yet another entry.

[1: Although seriously, what’s fun about stopping everything to wank out a “money shot” when you’ve got a partner right there who, in real life, would welcome your orgasm in contact and would almost certainly enjoy more active participation in creating it? Especially when it’s done over, and over, and over, and over. And over! —fl]

Whereas Erotic *Romance* Books *Do* Have Naked Men On the Covers

Erotica author Mathilde Madden of Erotica Cover Watch reflects on why one of the covers (below, right) is not like the other one (below, left.)

Because – of course – this [the cover on the left —fl] fits into a whole I can see no menz tradition of erotica covers.

Because of that, because of the culture that surrounds it, this is just another insult. Another case where the need to never ever show a man on the cover of an erotica book seems to just be going to desperate measures.

I mean, really, there is a guy there, but he’s hiding!

Now, look at this. This is another cover [on the right —fl] where we see some sex through a half open door. The difference here is that this is an erotic romance book. And as we have discussed before erotic romance is different. In fact, erotic romance does some really lovely covers with men on them. But only because straight men are not the consumers of erotic romance.

Read the quote in context here.

And yet publishers claim they never put men on the covers of porn and erotica by and for heterosexual women because women would rather look at other women.

Because hey, why admit you’re just catering to your homophobic male customers when you can just reinforce empty stereotypes about women, narcissm and their squeamishness about men’s bodies instead?

Um, Women as the No *Fetish* Class?

You’ll have to go to the page to unwind the links, but Megan of Jezebel spends a bit of time quoting an interview of author Daniel Bergner about his book on fetishes. Between this interview and his recent New York Times Magazine article Bergner seems like a pretty straight-up writer who actually gets it a little better than the sources he draws his material from.

Or at least that needs to be his excuse for repeating the following canard…

You mention that there are very few true female sadists. Why is that?

Well, that’s my understanding, and it seems to be true. There are very few women with paraphilias, in general, by which we mean outlying sexualities.

Read the quote in context here.

To the claim that few women are genuine sadists, combined with the claim that few women have fetishes, period, leaves one wondering what to make of women masochists. Because if masochism in women isn’t a fetish then… WTF would be the implication there?

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Also, while I’m too lazy to look for it, when the subject of women not having fetishes came up a few years ago I wondered whether that might be because for maybe thousands of years have been under… quite a lot of pressure since childhood to “powerfully and persistently displace sexual interest onto objects, behaviors, or situations other than in copulatory or precopulatory behavior with phenotypically normal, consenting adult human partners.” Such as, oh, I don’t know, chastity, marriage, children, and domesticity (a.k.a. “Porn for Women“ a.k.a. the no-sex class.)

And incidentally I’m not saying that women sexually fetishize housework either. I’m saying the assumptions that only men have fetishes are so ingrained that I think mostly nobody bothers to check.

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