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Boykin: Women Shouldn't Be in Combat Because Men Are Too Modest?


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According to a quote from David Edwards at Raw Story, General Jerry Boykin thinks women are and would continue to be great combat soldiers. But men still shouldn't have to serve with them. Because tampons? Let's take a look.

Emphasis mine:

During a Sunday interview on Fox News, host Chris Wallace asked retired Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin why he disagreed with the Pentagon’s decision to remove the ban on women in combat.

“You need to frame this thing correctly,” Boykin explained. “It’s not an issue of women in combat. Women are in combat already and have been in combat since 9/11, and in fact, prior to that.”

“My issue here is mixing the genders in infantry units, armor units and special forces units is not a positive, there are many distractors there, which puts burden on the small-unit combat leaders and actually creates an environment — because of their living conditions — that is not conducive to readiness.”

Boykin agreed that “some women can meet the standard,” but the issue was about “personal hygiene.”

“What I’ve raised is the issue of mixing the genders in those combat units, where there is no privacy, where they’re out on extended operations and there’s no opportunity for people to have any privacy whatsoever,” the retired lieutenant general insisted.

“Now, as a man who has been there and as a man who has some experience in those kinds of units, I certainly don’t want to be in that environment with a female because it’s degrading and humiliating enough to do your personal hygiene and the other normal functions among your teammates,” Boykin opined.

Source: Raw Story

Ok, so no doubt "some women" can meet the standard. But not all, which is fine, because not all men can meet the standard either.

So meeting the standard isn't the problem.

And I don't even think he's using "personal hygiene" as the usual euphemism for pads, tampons, or other menstrual products, so I don't think he's got the stereotypical macho "girl cooties" problem.  

So it's not a matter of Newt Gingrich style mythology of keeping women out of combat because "females have biological problems staying in a ditch for 30 days because they get infections, and they don't have upper body strength."

Instead look at his "framing" again:

I certainly don’t want to be in that environment with a female because it’s degrading and humiliating enough to do your personal hygiene and the other normal functions among your teammates.

Let's go one step further and overlook that bit where he differentiates men as "teammates" and women as "females" and get to the very heart of what he seems to see as the real problem: the degradation and humiliation of, what?  Men in combat having to "go poopie" around "females?

Seriously, gang!

When are we going to get it through their thick skills that actual non-stereotypical men can handle women seeing their peepees in non-sexual situations, just like women can handle men seeing theirs?  I mean, sure, it's not fun, and it's sure not interesting to see your teammates of any body type attending to their bodily functions.  But assuming you're in combat situations together, as Boykin acknowledges women and men have already been for at least 10 years now, you're going to see dramatically more traumatic things happen to your teammates and possibly to yourself than little bits of poop, pee, blood, or toilet paper here and there.

And even if you can't pull up your big-boy pants and deal with it there's no reason to penalize someone else just because you lack the trainability, resilience, or maturity to deal with it.


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Revisiting Asexuality as "Sex Positive" Indicator

There's another kerfuffle going around about why it is/isn't possible to be a "sex positive" feminist and/or whether "sex positive" is even a valid concept. An anonymous poster at 25 Things About My Sexuality inadvertently puts her finger on what I consider to be one of the acid tests of "sex positive" culture (emphasis mine.)

3. Over the past year I’ve realized that I am asexual, and I only feel comfortable with that label because I know that I’m not straight or gay.

4. Everyone thinks I’m a lesbian, especially my lesbian friends. A few have hinted that they’re waiting for me to come out. When I told one of them that I was asexual, hoping for solidarity, she paused and said, “Just stick with ‘queer.’”

Source: 25 Things About My Sexuality

People get this idea that "sex positive" means "anything goes." Or, even more off-by-a-mile, that it means "everything goes." Instead in a thoroughly sex-positive culture nobody needs to be warned "just stick with 'queer.'"

Incidentally  I'm not suggesting the friend herself was being ace-intolerant for giving that advice. Instead she was just acknowledging the reality that the unsexuality of asexuality alarms a lot of people and can sometimes provoke uncomprehending and suspicious "what's your damage, you have to have been damaged" interrogations.

People can, and seemingly do, argue all day month year century long about the perennial bugaboos of BDSM or sex work and where, how, or whether they fit in "sex positive" culture.  Contrary to partisans of those topics they're just not the best place to look for negative attitudes about people's sexuality.


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One of My Few Grammar-Police Complaints: "Male" and "Female" as Nouns (Usually Indicating Hostility)

I'm usually pretty sanguine about the sort of harmless verbal tics that drive people to file complaints with the grammar police. Autumn Whitefield-Madrano tackles one of the few that really sticks in my craw.

Inevitably, when I hear the word female repeatedly used as a noun in speech, it’s either from someone who isn’t used to talking about sex and gender issues (in which case I try to look past it, assuming the person is in good faith)—or, more frequently, from a card-carrying misogynist who, intentionally or not, manages to make every utterance of female sound like he’s spitting directly onto our collective ovaries.

Source: Feministe

"Man" and "Woman" are nouns. "Male" and "Female" are adjectives. Whitefield-Madrano makes a pretty good case for why it's not just a grammar issue, it's a respect/contempt issue.

She cites some pretty hard-to-blame-on-Gloria-Steinem sources to back it up.

“Why should a woman be degraded from her position as a rational being, and be expressed by a word which might belong to any animal tribe?” wrote critic Henry Alford in 1866. The Oxford English Dictionary is more succinct on the matter: “Now commonly avoided by good writers, exc. with contemptuous implication.”

What really grates is when someone says "men" and "females," as nouns, in the same sentence. Of course that gate swings both ways -- when you hear someone say "women" and "males" in the same sentence you can be pretty confident that the hate men every bit as much as those who say "females" hate women.

Whitefield-Madrano does make a mild attempt to "rehabilitate" the word "female," pointing out that etymologically speaking "female" is not a derivation of "male" the way "woman" is derived from "man." Furthermore, the earliest versions of "female," "femella" and "femelle" not only emerged separately (the corresponding word for "man" was "masculus") it originally designated human women and was extended to other species only much later.

Fun stuff. Anyway. Good guideline to follow: directly indicating men or women as "males" and "females" is a pretty good clue to your misogyny and/or misandry. Fine if you're not ashamed to advertise it. But if you do it you are advertising it.


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Lindsay Beyerstein on the Difference Between Deviation and "Types," Also Jesse Bering is an Unbelievable Jerk

Lindsay Beyerstein, guest posting at Pandagon makes a great point about dodgy definitions of paraphilia and perversion while dissecting a troubled essay about aging, dementia, deviancy, and sexual assault by science writer Jesse Bering. Beyerstein says

Bering fusses over the precise definition of “gerontophilia” but he doesn’t address the central conceptual problem with the entire psychiatric framework for “diagnosing” paraphilias and fetishes. In a world where we can date whoever we like, the difference between a paraphilia and a “type” becomes meaningless. If I’m only attracted to skinny brown haired guys between the ages of 25 and 45, I just don’t date anyone else. Nobody questions this relatively rigid preference because it fits with society’s definition of normal. If I only wanted to date 80-something dudes, Bering would say I was a deviant. Actually, he’d say I was a golddigger because later in the essay asserts that female gerontophiles don’t exist.

Source: Pandagon

There are two good points in there. The first being that if someone of your "type" is a) able to make a competent decision to join you in bed but b) not a "type" Jesse Bering approves of then... you're not actually a deviant, you're just interested in someone who's not Jesse Bering's type.

But for the sake of argument, consider an exclusive heterosexual likeGeneral J.C. Christian. The General, a Manly 11 on the Scale of Absolute Gender, is absolutely dependent upon women, or thoughts of women, to become aroused. Every single time. Nothing else has ever aroused him in his life. Does that mean the General has heterophilia? No.

Bering insists he is incapable of erotic thoughts about elders. Does that mean Bering some kind of paraphilia for adults roughly his own age? No. He just has his preferences, like everyone else.

Incidentally, the DSM, the bible of mainstream American psychiatry, classified homosexuality as a paraphilia until 1973. Gerontophilia isn’tlisted in the DSM--which says a lot about why it isn’t studied more. To psychiatry’s credit, a thing for grey beards is no more remarkable than a thing for redheads, as long as it’s all between consenting adults.

Secondly, there's that echo again that women aren't supposed to have sexual fixations, and so any deviation from just wanting babies ...er... keeping your man interested long enough to raise those babies fairly staid vanilla sex amounts to calculation of some sort rather than genuine erotic interest.

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By the way, don't even get me started on the heart of Bering's actual post.

The point of his exercise in geriatrics and erotics appears to have been whether raping a very old woman with dementia should be taken as seriously as raping someone younger. After all, sez Bering, she wouldn't remember and she couldn't get pregnant so, hey, the ref says no harm, no foul, play on!

As, oh, maybe 99% of everyone reading the piece points out, that doesn't just start down the slippery slope towards condoning universal use of alcohol and roofies, it drives it right over the cliff.

Because in addition to slipping roofies to young men and raping them (remember, no recollection plus no pregnancy = no harm, no foul) then slipping roofies to a just-past-menopause 50-year-old woman, slipping roofies to a 35-year-old woman who's had a partial or complete hysterectomy, slipping roofies to a woman with an IUD or other birth control, slipping roofies to any woman of any age if you've had a vasectomy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, also looms large.

In none of those circumstances they would't know and they won't get pregnant so if we were to follow Bering's lead it would all just be exploring, as he puts it, "questions about issues related to consent, trauma, and the impact of sex crimes on victims with different psychological and physical stakes."

Actually I'm pretty sure Bering believes nothing of the sort but was was just looking for a phone-it-in way to close his article. He's been phoning them in a lot lately and I'm guessing his regular editors at Scientific American took a pass on this one. But not Slate!


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Lot of Educators Getting Fired for Past or Present Sex-Related Activities Lately

Well this is sort of getting to be a stuck record.  There's yet another education professional in the news (and in the unemployment office) for past or current involvement in stripping or other sex work.

Some of you may recall Sheila Addison's 2008 guest post at Kate Harding's Shapely Prose about one of her masters in counseling psychology course offerings : "Size Acceptance in a Systems Framework." She's also guest-posted at the California National Organization for Women blog, Civil liberties: Now with more privileged people.

Her not-yet-scrubbed faculty bio says

Dr. Addison heads the Couple and Family specialization, and is passionate about using family systems theory to guide clinical work aimed at supporting happier, healthier relationships. She is a Clinical Member of the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, and an AAMFT Approved Supervisor. Her professional work focuses on couples, GLBT clients, families with adolescents, and those who live in marginalized communities. She practices from a feminist, multicultural, integrative family systems perspective; her work is concerned with relational justice, issues of gender and culture, the operation of power in relationships and increasing capacity for intimacy and emotion. She is the co-author of five chapters in "The Therapist's Notebook for Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Clients," and of a chapter on sexuality and supervision in "Readings in Family Therapy Supervision." In December 2008, "Multicultural Couple Therapy" will be released, which includes two chapters with Dr. Addison as the lead author, one on white privilege and one on work with minority same-sex couples. She often teaches Systemic Theory and Family Therapy, Couples Therapy (focusing on the work of John Gottman and the Emotionally Focused Therapy of Susan Johnson), and various family therapy theories such as Bowen Family Systems, Nagy/Contextual Therapy, Metaframeworks, Satir/Human Validation Process, and feminist therapy.

Source: John F. Kennedy University GSPPP faculty page

A site called Courthouse News Service says (emphasis mine)

A professor claims John F. Kennedy University fired her illegally for appearing in "a burlesque show" called the "'Hubba Hubba Revue' ... which provides political and social commentary on gender, sexuality, and body image stereotypes."

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JFKU President Steven Stargardter fired her in a letter dated June 21, 2010, Addison says: "Defendant Stargardter stated in the letter that he was terminating Addison's employment because of her performances in a burlesque show entitled 'Hubba Hubba Revue.' No other reason was given for Addison's termination."

 

Source: Courthouse News Service

Oh, and to top it all off, Courthouse News and other sources say

But [JFK] did not fire a male professor who at the same time was doing a one-man show "which included disrobing and partial nudity on stage.

I'm sure there are extenuating circumstances that explain the different treatments.  For instance the male professor probably isn't an LGBT-friendly, feminist, size-acceptance activist... oh, wait!  That doesn't sound very extenuating!

 


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It's Always Great When the NYT Links to One of Your Posts About Antonin Scalia Being a Legally Arbitrary, Self-Serving Jerk

Screen Shot of NYT Online - Link to Real Adult Sex re: Scalia on 14th Amendment
Screen Shot of NYT Online - Link to Real Adult Sex re: Scalia on 14th Amendment on 1/11/2011

They linked to this post: Marcy Wheeler on Antonin Scalia's Unlikely But Implicit Strict Originalist Repudiation of the "Personhood" of Corporations.

Actualy my original post just quoted Avedon Carol quoting Marcy Wheeler

Marcy Wheeler, fascinated by Scalia's ruminations on whether the Constitution protects us from discrimination (he says no), suggests he has clearly just killed corporate personhood: "If the Fourteenth Amendment shouldn't be applied to women and gays, then it sure as hell shouldn't be applied to railroads, right?"

Source: The Sideshow

Wheeler's referring to an 1886 Supreme Court decision granting 14th Amendment personhood protection to the Southern Pacific Railroad. Scalia likes corporations so he's going to arbitrarily agree that the 14th Amendment makes companies protected "persons."  But Scalia also hates women and gay people so he's going to turn right around and claim that the same 14th Amendment does not provide protection for actual women and gay persons! Must be great to practice self-serving opportunism and call it "original intent."

And speaking of self-serving opportunism, have you've ever thought about linking to this site but worried what you'd tell your editor, family, or neighbors would say?  You can say the New York Times does it too.


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A. Serwer on the Significance of Obama and Pelosi's Leadership on HCR

A. Serwer of TAPPED rings the bell with this beautiful passage beginning with an anecdote about his brother’s first experience in summer camp.

When it came time to go swimming, my brother was promptly informed by one of the other kids that black people couldn’t swim.

Of course, bougie as we are, my brother had been taking swim lessons for years, and he swam circles around this kid just to prove the point. It was a formative experience for my brother, who realized his personal excellence would speak louder than anything anyone could say about the color of his skin.

Since Nancy Pelosi became speaker of the House, and shortly after Barack Obama started running for president, we started hearing some identity-specific variations of what that obnoxious kid told my brother before he got a mouthful of chlorine wake. As an incessant reminder that women don’t belong in positions of authority, Pelosi was attacked as a “man“ or peppered with criticisms of her looks or suggestions that she needed to be home doing domestic work. Obama’s intelligence provoked an existential crisis for some conservatives, who insisted he didn’t write his autobiography or legal work or he got into Harvard or even was elected president because of affirmative action.

The passage of yesterday’s health care bill isn’t due to the efforts of just one person. But it’s fair to say that the health care reform bill could not have passed the House without the political skills of the first female speaker of the house and the first black president of the United States. Conservatives won’t abandon the use of tribalist and sexist attacks against them, but these will recede into the fog of history, in which the relative diversity of the Democratic leadership at this moment speaks louder than words can say about the stubborn leftover myths from America’s past.

He said it here.

It’s not that sexism or homophobia or racism is dead (um, for instance no.) Nor is it the case that society’s gone all color- and gender-blind. (Also no.) And I expect I’ll be long after my time before anyone can say honestly and accurately say “nothing more need be done.”

But just as it would be foolish for anyone to rest on their laurels it would also be a huge mistake to deny that laurels have been deservedly won. The first and either second or third* most powerful politicians in government right now are not now and never will be dead white males. And in the face of amazing and incredibly procedural conservative opposition on the one hand, and unbelievable progressive timidity on the other, they’ve pulled together vote after vote on bill after bill.

If you’re not old enough to remember, say, the Johnson or Nixon administrations, when civil rights and women’s rights were entire novelties last night’s HCR vote, and tomorrow’s signing ceremony, might feel somewhere between water under the bridge and/or a major disappointment. That in itself is a measure of how far it’s possible to go in just a handful of decades!

I’ll repeat, while it’s important not to rest on one’s laurels it’s also bloody important to acknowledge when laurels have been won. And not so you can say “whew, I’m just sooooo grateful.” Not at all, at all. But so we can look for the next big hill, grin like a little kid, and say “again, again!”

* Depending on whether you consider Speaker of the House or Senate Majority Leader most significant.


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Question of Naming Rights: Bond, Sartre, and... What?... Bob Kerrey?

Great vocabulary question from Bond of Dear Diaspora:

That conflation of dozens of identities with each other under the “lesbian” heading is really a strange thing. Why, why do we have one measly word that’s supposed to be able to stretch to describe the experiences of, say, butch dykes who like femmes, femmes who like queer masculinity in the form of butches, bois, queer guys, etc., androdykes who only like other androdykes, and separatists for whom lesbianism is largely political ideology?

Read the quote in context here.

It all makes sense, of course, if you just mean “someone identified by straight people as female and not straight.” Which makes approximately as much sense as people of one nationality calling everyone else on the planet “foreigners.” The latter distinction only really makes sense to the people making the distinction.

As opposed to, say, their potential victims. But when you consider the distinction comes from people who want to operate on others (“should she be ‘cured’ of not having sex with men?” or “should we round them up and intern them?”) those kinds of definitions might be technically accurate and even pragmatic for those making the policies.

But not otherwise particularly useful for the identified. For instance the only thing a Hungarian and, say, an American Samoan in, say, Nebraska might have in common besides their location is their “foreigner-ness.” Or, as Bond points out, the only thing a femme and a separatist might have in common besides their identification-by-others is their not-sexual-interest in men.


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Disorderly Proposals for the New DSM

Jessica Valenti Julia Serano of the, um, mainstream feminist website Feministing raises the alarm about proposed revisions to psychiatry’s main reference, The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders or DSM.

...do you happen to be attracted to, or in a relationship with, someone who is differently-abled or differently-sized? Or someone who is gender-variant in some way? Well congratulations, you may now be diagnosed with a paraphilia!

Seriously.

[Contributing author Ken Zucker and Ray] Blanchard and other like-minded sex researchers have coined words like Gynandromorphophilia (attraction to trans women), Andromimetophilia (attraction to trans men), Abasiophilia (attraction to people who are physically disabled), Acrotomophilia (attraction to amputees), Gerontophilia (attraction to elderly people), Fat Fetishism (attraction to fat people), etc., and have forwarded them in the medical literature to denote the presumed “paraphilic” nature of such attractions. This tendency reinforces the cultural belief that young, thin, able-bodied cisgender women and men are the only legitimate objects of sexual desire, and that you must be mentally disordered in some way if you are attracted to someone who falls outside of this ideal. It’s bad enough that such cultural norms exist in the first place, but to codify them in the DSM is a truly terrifying prospect.

Another frightening aspect of Blanchard’s proposal is that any sexual interest other than “genital stimulation or preparatory fondling” is now, by definition, a paraphilia. In his presentation, he claimed that paraphilias should include all “erotic interests that are not focused on copulatory or precopulatory behaviors, or the equivalent behaviors in same-sex adult partners.” Copulatory is defined as related to coitus or sexual intercourse (i.e., penetration sex). So, essentially, all forms of sexual arousal and expression that are not centered around penetration sex may now be considered paraphilias.

She said this, and a lot more, here.

Quite a (dry, bitter) mouthful in my excerpt, above, but Valenti has more in her post. Read it and weep.

Or, possibly, not weep. A lot of ordinary, mundane worries, fantasies, and interests show up in the DSM — worrying that you forgot to turn off the stove, losing sleep over finances or politics, and stuff like that for instance — but is technically only a problem when taken to extremes. There’s a point on the way to the airport where my partner almost always remembers something we forgot and wonders if we should go back for it. That’s not crazy — not least when, sometimes, it’s something we really should go back for… like my wallet. Instead it’s a quirk. If she were instead immobilized and unable to leave the house because she obsessively catalogued the things we might otherwise leave behind then one of the DSM diagnoses would kick in and treatment might be sought, approved, and (assuming her insurer agreed… a big assumption) undertaken.

But still, as Valenti points out, perfectly functional people are sometimes saddled with DSM disorders. And some of the proposed “disorders” are actually nobody’s flipping business if conducted in privacy on one’s own or with other adults who decide they want to participate.

Interestingly, there’s been a lot of pressure to back off the so-called gender identity disorders that umbrella transvestism, transgender, and transsexualism. Valenti doesn’t mention whether those are still in. (The tactical and strategic reasons for keeping it in, including insurance mandates for sex reassignment, possibly makes this more complicated than it might be.) But adding being attracted to trans-men and women seems like upping the ante: it seems… disordered to attach a disorder to someone who’s something it’s not a disorder to be.

And along those lines I’m more than a little uncomfortable with designating attraction to the aged or infirm. Not least because, last I heard, it’s not a disorder to be aged or infirm. In which case you’re really aiming to screw up the lives of otherwise perfectly ordinary people by… scaring off or nailing their prospective partners.

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This is not, incidentally, an abstract issue. I’m fairly confident the bill died in session (as most, um, quirky bills do) but… well, remind me to post about the (now dead-in-session one hopes) Massachusetts bill “protecting” anyone and everyone over age 60 by adding “and anyone older than 60” to all child sexual assault statutes!


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Susan Boyle and 21st Century Incarnations of the Gong Show

Warning: Curmudgeon alert

So someone finally showed me the Susan Boyle video that’s been making the rounds lately. She’s a 47-year-old Scotswoman, a choirist, who wound up on one of those mean-people “talent show” programs that are so popular these days. You know, the ones where instead of risking having the bad taste to enjoy a performer’s actual performance they show cool people’s faces during the performance so you can tell if you’re making the right choice? Oh, and to make sure you aren’t confused they mug horribly if they don’t think you should like a performer, and smile and gently shake their heads as if in wonder so you’ll know you should like the performer too.

Anyway, Boyle’s got the sort of great, room-filling voice that’s prized by show-tune impresarios, opera conductors, and choir directors. She’s also not beautiful the same way people who are paid to look cool on TV are beautiful.

And so everybody mugged awfully when she walked out on stage, and mugged worse when she said she wanted to sing a love-affirming song. And then she began singing and was really good so all the cool people stopped mugging and started smiling and gently shaking their heads. The live audience was so impressed by the switch to smiling and head-shaking that they all stood up and started cheering.

After the performance the smiling head-shakers said a bunch of condescending bullshit.

Anyway, since I hadn’t seen it I hadn’t registered any of the previous online commentary, but Ann Bartow of Feminist Law Professors sums the whole thing up rather nicely. Here’s a snippet.

When Simon tells Susan Boyle she is a “little tiger” I really wanted to throw up. She rolls it off with a lot of equanimity and class. The only thing that makes watching the portions of the video clip in which the judges are speaking tolerable to me is the utter joy the entire experience seems to bring to Susan Boyle.

She said it here.

There was a program in the 1970s called the Gong Show. It too was a talent show with a panel of judges. One difference was the judges weren’t paid to be cool. Another difference was that the judges had buttons on their desks that would ring a big gong that signaled that they were rejecting the performance or…

...the performer.

Which is what I thought about when I saw the program staffer’s reactions before, during, and after Susan Boyle’s performance.

Perhaps not surprisingly I couldn’t find the exact clip from the Gong Show I was looking for. The one that reminded me so closely of the “cool people’s” performance as Boyle sang.

Instead, here’s a clip of the same performer from an episode several months after the first. The intro by the host is significant. “Right now let’s bring back a terrific lady…”

Her name is Bobby Tremain.

The reason I couldn’t find the first clip, and why I’m not surprised, is that the first time ‘round one… or maybe more than one of the judges let her get about one verse into the song… maybe as far as when she started playing and tap dancing, and they rang the gong.

Why? I don’t remember who the nobody daytime “celebrities” were back then (anymore than I’ve heard of the daytime celebrities hired to be judgmental about Susan Boyle) but the one who stands out in my memory had Paul-Linde-fey kind schtick and he explained that he rang the gong because “that poor woman, that poor little old lady, I didn’t want her to die up there!”

There was much chittering, not all of it enthusiastic, from the audience. The host’s plastic smile never faded. Ms. Tremain was pretty speechless but clearly disappointed.

There was considerable outcry from the non-studio audience, however, and so they had her back. And let her finish. Three years later Tremain one the over-eighty tournament on another game show, Tic-tac Dough.

I bring all this up because Tremain, like Boyle, was talented, energetic, and enthusiastic. And like Boyle she didn’t fit the stereotypes of the judges who, in both instances, made their judgments based their preconceptions that people who look like X should be expected to do only Y.

I’m not ashamed for having watched The Gong Show because I was a very young and the two broadcast-only alternatives were worse. There are many more channels today, and many more choices of programming. I would be ashamed if today I watched whatever program it is that Boyle transcended. For one thing I’m a big boy now. For another I have my own sense of taste. For another, having been an amateur performing musician and singer I appreciate how much work goes into even the least praiseworthy performance. And so I have no patience for trained monkeys paid to mug or gently smile and shake their heads based on their preconceptions, their prejudices, and possibly anticipation of bananas from their producers after the show. I have to say I might watch the show if they had gong buttons on their desks like the old show… it would be amusing to watch the cool people try and master the technology to push them.

%@#*&!!!


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