Ralph Nader

Reflections On the New Ralph Nader Of 2008

Fri, 2008-05-23 16:30


Photo by Flickr user figleaf (me for once!) Used under a Creative Commons license.

1) If I stop looking at Senator Hillary Clinton for a minute I see a lot of really wonderful, actually powerful women in politics. Including all but one of my major national, state, and local representatives, all of whom are very experienced and highly qualified, and one of whom is only two impeachments away from the Oval Office. To say that Clinton is the epitome of women in power does a disservice to everyone else.

2) Fantasies of ‘wingers, and fears of supporters notwithstanding, Senator Clinton’s increasingly disgraceful behavior disgraces only her. Any more than, say, Ralph Nader’s behavior in 2000 disgraced only him and not all men (despite his end-stage macho antics), nor all citizen activists, nor all government watchdogs, nor environmentalist, and so on.

3) And speaking of which! People keep dragging gender into Senator Clinton’s antics. Besides being kind of thuggish (update: see also Ann Bartow) it’s a distraction from the real problem: She’s transforming herself into the Ralph Nader of 2008 — a previously admirable, personally likable activist who’s become toxically self-centered and self-righteous and no longer seems to care who gets hurt.

4) And speaking of which again! Just like Ralph Nader in 2000, Senator Clinton seems to be developing a hard core of supporters bent on sticking to her to the bitter end. Possibly enough to, as in 2000, influence the outcome of the election.** And here’s the deal with that: the kind of progressives who stayed home in a self-righteous huff rather than support Ralph Nader’s rival in 2000 are exactly the same kind of people who’ll stay home rather than “betray” what Senator Clinton “stood for” in 2008.*** And while I’m sure no one’s polling for this I really, really wish there could be a way to break out those who followed Nader down in 2000 to those who say they’ll follow Clinton down in 2008. It’s certainly worth asking her supporters one on one.****

[** Forget the relative handful of people who actually voted for Ralph Nader in the general election and, arguably (they argue it especially) had no effect on the outcome. Consider instead the millions more who stayed home, demoralized, because a long-term, respected icon condemned the future Nobel Prize winner as undistinguishable from George W. Bush and therefore undeserving of progressive’s votes. —fl]

[*** Update: Slightly edited. The original referenced the subset of Clinton supporters in, say, West Virginia and Kentucky who told exit pollsters they’d vote for McCain in the general one way or the other but especially didn’t want Obama to get the nomination. Generally speaking they’re not the sort who voted for Nader in 2000. —fl]

[**** And given the average age of the Senator’s hard-core support is similar to mine it might be fair to ask how many of them helped elect Ronald Reagan in 1980 by protest-voting for independent candidate John Anderson as a protest against Jimmy Carter. I’m pretty sure there’ll be a lot of overlap there too. —fl]

The real consequences of worrying about Teh Morning After (Election Day) Walk of Shame

Fri, 2007-10-12 12:45

From a transcript of a Sam Donaldson interview of then-presidential candidate Ralph Nader back on October 29, 2000 (via randomly Google’d source CommonDreams.org.)

DONALDSON: ...in our latest ABCNEWS tracking poll, or one we took last Thursday, we found that you had about 3 percent overall. It may be 4 percent by this weekend. But if Nader wasn’t running, 56 percent of your supporters say they would go for Gore; only 23 percent would go for Bush. So he’s right, you’re wrong, if our poll is correct.

NADER: Why do you think I should be worried about that? If I was worried about whether Gore or Bush were going to be elected, would I be running for president to establish a progressive political reform movement before and after November 7, which is what we’re trying to do? You know, do you think Gore is entitled to any votes? Do you think Bush is entitled—am I entitled to any votes? We have to earn them. If Gore cannot beat the bumbling Texas governor with that horrific record, what good is he?

What good is he? Good heavens. I mean, this should be a slam dunk.

DONALDSON: Well, all right. If it’s not important to you, then let’s see whether it’s important to the people who are, at the moment, saying they’re going to vote for you. Let’s start with abortion. Here’s the ad that the National Abortion Rights League, NARAL, is running against you, a portion of it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

NARRATOR: If you’re thinking of voting for Ralph Nader, please consider: This year, a five-to-four Supreme Court decision narrowly protected Roe v. Wade. A single vote saved a woman’s right to choose. Before voting Nader, consider the risk.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

DONALDSON: Consider the risk.

NADER: Consider it. Justice Souter, Justice O’Connor, they could’ve overturned Roe v. Wade three times in the last ten years. They didn’t do it. This is a scare tactic that’s going on here. When George W. Bush was asked by Tim Russert, is he going to push to reverse Roe v. Wade, George Bush said, well, not unless a lot of people in this country change their mind. Even if Roe v. Wade is reversed that doesn’t end it; it just reverts it back to the states.

The rest of the interview appears here.

I’m just saying that pseudo-innocence in politics ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.

Call me a goof if you like, or maybe even a sore loser, but I’m pretty sure that if Ralph Nader had a little more perspective back then, President Gore would not have spent nearly eight years brown-nosing appointed Justices Alito and Roberts, and former Governor Bush would not have received the Nobel Peace Prize this morning.

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