social construction of gender

If You Leave Out Enough Details and Squint Just Right Men Think About Sex More Than Women

Thu, 2011-12-08 23:11

So even if you only read USA Today you may have heard about yet another variation of the how-often-men-think-of-sleep study. Where (naturally, it's always strongly implied) almost all men think about sex more often than almost all women do. Lassoing popular press accounts and bringing them back to earth, Emily Nagoski passes along the following five points.

My favorite part is on page two of the Psychology Today article, where Brian talks about problems in the media’s coverage of the study, which parallels my thinking on mainstream journalism reporting science:

1. Writers were either confused or deliberately choosing the more extreme, less representative central tendency (the mean rather than the median) to report.

2. Writers emphasized the central tendency, to the exclusion of standard deviation, when one of the most compelling results of the study was the wide variability among subjects.

3. Writers also emphasized the sex part, paying inadequate attention to the fact that thoughts about sleep and food were as frequent as thoughts about sex.

4. Writers emphasized population-level differences between men and women, neglecting to clarify that there was lots of overlap so that, even though the men on average reported more thoughts about sex (and food and sleep), many of the individual women had more thoughts about sex (and food and sleep) than many of the individual men.

5. Writers generalized the results to All People, rather than recognizing the delimitations of the population studied: college students, who are likely to be WEIRD.

What can we really conclude about frequency of thoughts about sex? We think about sex about as often as we think about food and sex, and we vary a great deal from each other in all three topics.

Source: Emily Nagoski :: sex nerd ::

Perfect.  Nagoski says the actual paper's legit (within its constraints) and I'm inclined to agree.

Other than that I've got one question and one observation.  First of all, why do I remember reading about an almost identical study a year or so ago (same basic shape: men think about sex more, but also think more about food and sleep.)  Is this one a new study or is the old one just making the rounds again?

Second, I'm not sure who mentioned it last week, but someone referring to this same study pointed out that men don't actually think about sex every seven minutes.  As I said I can't find the original source but I got that similar link via Em & Lo.

Anyway, bottom line.  The study shows that men tend to think about bodily functions more often than women do; there's considerable overlap not only within sexes but between them.  As always, good to know.

Sounds Like MTV's Teen Werewolf Reboot Might Want to Teach Girls All the Wrong Lessons About Boys and Romance During Puberty

Mon, 2011-06-20 23:40

So on the cool pop-media analysis blog Overthinking It, a blogger named Stokes pulls some cool insights into a reboot of the schlocky 80's movie Teen Werewolf and its 2011 reboot as an MTV series. First insight was that werewolf stories are metaphors for the myriad disruptions of male puberty, from crazy hormone-driven emotional fluxes to disturbingly rapid growth to unwelcome physical reactions to, well, hair growing all over your face. The second was that while the original Teen Wolf saw transformation more as a metaphor for boys' uncontrollable awkwardness, the reboot has a much darker view of emergence into manhood.

In the original movie, this would have been fodder for the comedy of humiliation.  Oh no!  SHE’S GOING TO REALIZE THAT I HAVE AN ERECTION!  Must… fight… embarrassment!  And the important lesson, of course, is that eventually you have to realize that these sexual drives are part of who you are, and if the girl likes you enough she’s not going to mind even a little.  But in the darker and edgier Teen Wolf reboot, the threat is not that she’s going to notice — rather, it’s that he’s going to lose control and tear her limb from limb.  Taking its (deeply sexist and problematic) cue from the Twilight series, Teen Wolf: The Next Generation suggests that teenaged boys are seething cauldrons of hormonal lust that are always a whisker away from exploding into a whirlwind of passionate, bodice-ripping… well, rape.  There’s not a nice or polite way to put it; that’s what the subtext is about.  And it’s meant to be sexy, which is kind of gross.

Source: Overthinking It

It's a very cool insight. First, because of the possibility that werewolf stories could be used to help young men through the transition into getting a handle on their new assets and liabilities. As Stokes puts it,

The old Teen Wolf movie is fundamentally about being unhappy with the very bodily nature of one’s own developing body.  It’s not body horror in the classic sense, where what you are becoming is abominable and terrifying to look on.  Rather, the monstrous body is funny looking. Not terrifying but mortifying, embarrassing.  Teen Wolf is also about getting past that – realizing that along with funny odors and hair-every-which-where, puberty also maybe gives you some enhanced basketball skills.  And maybe members of the opposite sex aren’t as weirded out by your new body as you are yourself. And eventually once you’ve grown up completely, you start shaving and wearing deodorant, and your testosterone-crazed fight-or-flight reflexes calm down a little, and you make out with your childhood friend rather than the unattainable cheerleader type, opting for love and companionate marriage rather than a more juvenile romance based on lust and status.

The second insight, the one that ties in with the Twilight series, is that instead of providing boys with proxies that can help them resolve their own issues the new series serves the purpose of teaching girls to process their feelings about boys in decidedly anti-feminist ways.  Because that whole "ZOMG, if he didn't control himself literally every second Edward could totally rip her throat out... because that's what love is" is... sort of the worst possible gender expectations-setting you can imagine.

Because, seriously, it sounds like the 80s version had it exactly right.  The self-control most boys are struggling with is the intense desire not to humiliate themselves with testosterone's... um... byproducts.  If the message girls are getting instead is that boys are struggling not to (romantically!) massacre them it's...

It's going to create some disconnects that just aren't going to serve either boys or girls once they do leave puberty.

Oh, and extra credit in the "wrong message" department?  In the new version not only does becoming a werewolf fail to make the victim even more of a confused loner than he was before...

I find most of the “good side” of the protagonist’s wolfification pretty ugly to begin with — there’s nothing wrong with enhanced senses or physical speed in and of themselves, but he quickly and cheerfully uses his gifts to turn himself into a fratty douche.  The character’s name is Scott, but I kept wanting to call him Chad, or possibly just “Broseph.”   Who knows, maybe over the course of the series he’ll learn a valuable lesson about not being a hyper-competitive Type-A jagoff all the damn time.

In other words it turns you into a privileged asshole who... will rip his girlfriend's throat out any time he actually loses control.

Charming!

 

Holy Cow, Did You Hear About the Graphic Male Rape Scene in "Get Him to the Greek?" Probably Not Unless You Read Feminist Blogs

Fri, 2011-06-17 15:12

trigger alert

Heads Up: This is a long post with lots of triggery stuff about representations of sexual assault in movies, particularly in comedies.  There's a clip of from the movie at the bottom of the post.

Summary: This one's about a particularly graphic one played for laughs in last year's Judd Apatow vehicle, Get Him to the Greek.  Looks like dozens or hundreds feminists from minor Tumblr blogs to the L.A. Times stood up for the male victim.  For all the "but men get raped too" derailment you see when feminists mention women victims the man-o-sphere remains remarkably silent.

Asexual activist Ily digs into the (top grossing!) 1947 Bing Crosby and Bob Hope misogyny and date-rape fest Road to Rio and then lobs the ball back into the 21st Century's court with a dissection of Judd Apatow's extremely popular Get Him to the Greek.

[F]ast forward to recent years. "Road to Rio" would probably not be written. Of course, the 40's were just more sexist times...right? However, today, we're expected to laugh at a man being raped (not to mention having his bodily integrity violated in countless other ways). Stuff like this has led some people to believe that feminism has gone too far, and now women are holding privilege over men. But I don't think these folks are aware of why we are supposed to find male rape funny. I think it's for the same reason that we're supposed to find men in dresses funny--being raped is feminizing, and therefore embarrassing. At the same time, men are so sex-crazed that being raped (at least, by a woman) is not a big deal to them emotionally. There are a few assumptions here:

...

So yes, I believe that bell hooks was very much correct. Patriarchy does hurt everyone. In a truly post-feminist world, Jonah Hill's friends in Get Him to the Greek wouldn't have laughed off his rape experience. He could have admitted that yeah, there were times when he didn't want sex*, and the other men wouldn't have mocked him for that. And we, the audience, wouldn't be expected to laugh, either.

Source: Asexy Beast

And who, you might be asking, would be making fun of men being raped? In, um, certain quarters the knee-jerk reaction is that it could only be feminists. In this case? Not so much. But they'd be so far wrong radar couldn't find them: the movie was made by Judd Apatow's all-men, no-women-at-all creative team of directors, writers, and producers.  Director? Nicholas Stoller. Writers?Nicholas Stoller and Jason Segel. Producers? Judd Apatow, David L. Bushell, and Rodney Rothman. Co-Producer? Jason Segel. Executive Producer? Richard Vane. Associate Producer?Phil Eisen.  Not a feminist in the bunch.  Not a woman in the bunch.  Not even a "feminist man" in the bunch.  It's dicks and balls all the way down till you get to the casting coordinator.

And oh well, one might be inclined to say, it was a comedy for goodness sake, maybe it was portrayed as daffy slapstick. If one did one would be disappointed. While the event is supposed to be just one more bit of physical comedy that befalls a sad-sack character from a police-procedural standpoint it wouldn't be a minor incident at all!

Instead, when the Arron character is physically incapacitated by alcohol but still able to clearly express his absolute lack of consent the woman pins him down, exposes herself to him when he manifestly does not want her to, aggressively and repeatedly forces his attention up her skirt, yanks off his pants, straddles his groin, pulls a large phthalate-laden dildo out of her purse, aggressively rubs it in his face, slaps him with it, forces it into his mouth, and then reaches back and jams it between his legs in a manner that strongly (if anatomically-improbably) implies she's inserted it in his anus.

The most disturbing part to me about the scene is the breezy familiarity with which it's set and directed, as if the producers were... a little too familiar with the way rape committed by drunk people on drunk people actually goes.  (And no, this isn't accusing Apatow, Stoller, or Segal of committing gross sexual assault on drunken victims.  They may have or they might not.  If you asked me I'd guess one or more of the creative team has been on the receiving end either from another man or from a woman.  And, sort of like the victim in the film, they're not resolved to it because of a couple of really fundamental misconceptions of who can be perpetrators and, even more particularly, who can be victims.)

One thing that doesn't seem realistic? Right after the anal penetration the camera cuts away to what appears to be the Arron character's love interest, wearing hospital scrubs at a desk in what appears to be a hospital nursing station, is listening to the entire event on her cell-phone. Her reaction? To shake her head angrily, hang up, and move to put away the phone.  Ha ha, just one more way that poor schlub Aaron I'm pretty sure

And who do we find writing critical reviews of this movie? Ily, an asexual woman,

Alicia Sowisdral of Feminist Review.

Sarah M at the feminist anti-rape site SaferCampus said

I’m pretty used to rape being used as a punchline, especially when men are the victims. This usually comes in the form of jokes about prison rape, but I’ve also seen more than enough films in which a guy is basically forced into having sex with a woman or is really uncomfortable with it (like, he’s in a relationship and she’s seducing him!) and it’s supposed to be funny because ya know, women can’t rape men LOL! And prisoners deserve it! That’s bad enough to me. But this was just so beyond explicit—the guy is sodomized with an object while saying no and then uses the word rape to describe it—that I was genuinely shocked. I actually can’t even imagine an explanation of how this is funny outside of the fact that a man being raped is SO IMPLAUSIBLE to folks that it’s just laughable. You’re not watching a “rape scene” because call it rape all you want, it couldn’t be real rape, so it’s funny.

Lauren Brachman at Equal Writes put the consequences in black and white

[I]f that is the way we view rape and sexual assault, aren’t we doing a disservice to men? The Rape Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN) reports that 1 in every 33 men have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. Do we emasculate the men who survive sexual assault because our culture constantly reminds us that real men do not get raped? Are these assaults as funny as the rape of Aaron Hill in Get Him to the Greek?

You might argue that women are not the only assailants of the sexual assault committed against 3% of all American men. Often, men assault other men. But don’t worry – Get Him to the Greek is an equal opportunity exploiter! Aldous Snow, one of Green’s “best friends”, also assaults him. This time Aaron Green is coerced into inserting a balloon of heroine into his anus. Later Aldous Snow digitally penetrates Aaron Green, violently ripping out the balloon. Was there an outcry in the theater when we all witnessed this assault? Not that I could over hear over the laughs and guffaws of my classmates.

I found a Tumbler post that's nested three deep with women harshly attacking the idea that rape of a man could ever be funny, with the angriest denunciation of playing male rape for laughs coming from a (now deactivated) Tumblr blog called thehumorlessfeminist.

Sigh.

For all the men that show up saying "but men get raped too" anytime someone starts complaining about rape culture in movies you'd think there's be a few more men chiming about, you know, men actually getting raped in movies.

The Difference Between "But" and "And" in Debates About Gender and, Say, Sexual Assault or Domestic Violence

Thu, 2011-06-16 13:38

So I was walking home from the grocery store just now thinking about gender assumptions, sexual assault, and domestic violence (as I've been doing more lately.) And just as I turned down the block towards my street a thought popped into my head.

The thought was "If it took me 26 years to learn that women can sexually assault, how many women fail to recognize they're doing it?"

Without knowing the answer that led to a whole 'nother thought. One that's actually so useful that in a way it doesn't really matter what the answer is.

The thought was that over and over we see men derailing DV and assault threads with But this or that happens to men too. Which then throws up this extraordinarily predictable spiral that ends in whole rafts of did-not's and did-to's and other hard feelings.

And the answer, it occurred to me, is that what we really need, what would really alter those conversations, would be to stop saying, say, "But men get raped too."

And change it to "And men get raped too."

Because, seriously, when your real goal is to overturn rape culture it seems like you want to include as many people as possible. You want to identify as many victims as possible. You want to mitigate, divert, or reform as many perpetrators as possible.

I mean, look at the ridiculous disconnect between women's and men's activists. They're all so busy disputing each other, and privileging themselves, and just generally derailing each other that no conversation takes place at all.

At all!

Do more men or women commit sexual violence? Do more women or men commit domestic violence? I think those are entirely the wrong questions because then the focus is just on comparison instead of change.

The right question to ask, then, is do men and women commit sexual and domestic violence, period. And the answer is overwhelmingly yes.

So.

What do you want to do about it?

Keep arguing over which yardstick to use?

Keep arguing that, no, in this one particular biological sex matters so much more than any other consideration?

I don't think so.

Not if you really want to stop it. Instead of complain about it.

Holly on Baby Storm and How Gender Subtracts From and Deprives the Sexes Rather Than Enhancing Them

Mon, 2011-06-13 23:01

Holly addresses the "damage" a Toronto family is allegedly imposing on their 4-month-old child by... refusing to disclose his or her gender to... other people who really, really want to know. So that they can decide whether to behave towards the four-month-old infant as if he is a "bruising boy" or she is a "blushing girl."

Because of how you were born, little Storm, there are clothes you can't wear, clubs you can't join, ways you can't talk, toys you can't play with, sports you can't play, names you can't use, haircuts you can't get, and entire ways of being and acting and expressing yourself will be closed off to you! For no particular reason!

Have fun out there, and remember, don't do the things half the other kids are having fun doing, or you'll get in big trouble!"

Now that's permanently damaging.

Source: The Pervocracy

It always takes me about 10 times longer to say it, but it's usually not as easy to read. But, yeah, basically it's the nature of "gender" (as opposed to biological sex) to work not by enhancing things about one's own sex but by having things that are (currently) believed to be inconceivable and/or intolerable for your sex to do. Like driving a car, as in Saudi Arabia where it's against the law for women to drive... even women who drove perfectly well while attending college somewhere other than Saudi Arabia. Women can in fact drive a car but since it's not "feminine" to do so it's forbidden.

Meanwhile when I was in 7th grade there was some sort of pre-computer-era scheduling screw up that got me put into a typing class instead of wood shop. Now at that time and in that location, a boy getting assigned to a typing class was as major a catastrophe as a girl getting assigned to wood shop. It simply had never happened before.

And how could it!?!?!? It not being "masculine" to type, boys simply couldn't learn how!

Now by "couldn't" I don't mean "were physically incapable." Instead I mean "couldn't" as in absolutely weren't allowed to. Yeah. I dunno either. Possibly because it would make them gay.

I was only in 7th grade so to be honest I don't know how I wound up staying in the class. But despite the fact that it's just not "masculine" I actually a) learned how to type at approximately the same rate everyone else did, and b) didn't turn gay.

Ironically, if I hadn't learned how to type, I probably wouldn't have taken a computer class in the late 1970s. And if I hadn't done that I probably wouldn't have been hired a few years later by a small but soon-to-be-very-large west-coast software company. And if I hadn't done that then I'd probably be a Walmart return-sales clerk somewhere.

The laugh riot now, of course, is that if you're male and you were born any time after roughly 1970... or actually if you're male and able to enter the URL for this blog... it has never occurred to you that typing would be a girls-only activity.

And of course it's not.

Because society is no longer amputating that skill set from boys in order to "make them a man."

For what it's worth, the same time I got put into a typing class a 7th grade girl was slotted into a woodworking class. Again, I was in 7th grade so I wasn't really following what happened in woodshops. But my guess would be that like... pretty much every boy who took wood shop in the 1970s it didn't materially prepare her for the technology boom that was just beginning to show on the horizon.

But at least it didn't amputate her ability to use a hammer, saw, sandpaper, or linseed oil to make shoe racks in order to insure her "femininity" remained intact.

Gender. It's for morons.

One Goal Feminists and MRAs Could Work Towards: Equality of Social Expectations

Sun, 2011-06-12 23:29

Speaking of discussion that shakes out of the Anthony Weiner fiasco without actually involving Weiner himself of Sheryl Gay Stolberg mentions a serious double standard in our expectations of men and women's sexual "propriety." And I'm passing it along because to a certain (I think probably extensive) degree

“I have no hard evidence that women are less likely to engage in risky or somewhat stupid behavior,” Ms. Pearson said. “But women in Congress are still really in a situation where they have to prove themselves to their male colleagues and constituents. There’s sort of this extra level of seriousness.”

And voters demand it. Celinda Lake, a Democratic strategist, says women politicians are punished more harshly than men for misbehavior. “When voters find out men have ethics and honesty issues, they say, ‘Well, I expected that.’" Ms. Lake said. “When they find out it’s a woman, they say, ‘I thought she was better than that.’"

Source: The New York Times

One of my big axioms about expectations is that while nobody's perfect, in the aggregate human beings are remarkably good at rising to their expectations but remarkably bad at exceeding them.

So... what do you think the consequences might be of saying "We can't expect men to control their sexual urges but we expect women to be better than that?"

Note: Celinda Lake isn't saying those are her expectations, she's reciting commonly held social expectations -- expectations that are held as dearly and enforced as rigorously by the likes of arch patriarchs like Mike Huckabee and of uber-radfems like Twisty Faster as well as fans and commentators of relative lightweights like Bret Farvre ("some guys just never grow up") and Britney Spears ("what a slut.")

Check out all the foofaraw over the recent SlutWalk protests. The whole thing was triggered by a Toronto cop setting expectations: we expect women to control themselves because men are incapable of self-control. And the reaction, again from left and right, has had a disappointing tendency to revolve around social expectations that... women must act "respectably" in order not to "make" men behave irresponsibly.

Ironically, but in a lot of ways not at all surprisingly, the only voices of dissent from that particular status quo are the subset of generally-younger feminists who aren't old-school "man-haters" at all but instead have a rather generous expectation that men are human beings and not animals, and who are mostly just over-the-moon exasperated that men don't, won't, or (even more often) are heavily pressured not to meet their expectations.

 

Those are the feminists, for instance, who got the original intention of the SlutWalk organizers, or like Halifax crisis center co-ordinator Jackie Stevens who, according to reporter Hilary Beaumont (emphasis mine) says

Rather than automatically thinking that way, she says society needs to see that an attacker has chosen to take advantage of someone who is vulnerable.

When Stevens reads articles about drunk driving, the police are quoted telling people to stop drinking and driving. But when she reads articles about sexual assault, there is no warning telling would-be attackers not to rape. Instead, the authorities tell potential victims to take precautions.

...

“Rather than always putting out the messages of ‘don’t walk alone’ or ‘don’t drink’ or ‘don’t talk to strangers’—all of those things—we need to say ‘don’t sexually assault,’” Stevens declares.

...

As a result of these misplaced messages, we say, "She shouldn’t have been walking home alone late at night," or, "She shouldn’t have worn a short skirt," rather than, "He shouldn’t have raped her."

Source: The Nova Scotia Dominion

Not that expectations are all about rape, even though questions about expectation and rape abound. It also boils down to crap as petty as expecting adult men to figure out how to tie their own ties instead of needing their partners to do it for them. (Hint: My dad taught me how to tie a tie on Sunday mornings before when I was about eight. And then expected me to do it from then on. An expectation I've somehow always managed to rise to even during my hippie and every-day-is-casual-Friday tech days when I could go years at a time without needing to wear one. But I digress....)

Anyway, that's the big realization that caused me to drop my lackluster search for a non-misogynist, non-sensitive-new-age-guy men's movement and switch to unapologetic feminism: that feminists had higher expectations for men than not only society at large but of considerable numbers of nominal "men's rights" activists. (Because with a few notable exceptions most of the "rights" MRAs are activist for read a lot more like excuses. I'm pretty sure this is one of the big reasons they get so little traction from feminists and non-feminists a like.)

Does that mean I agree with everything feminism has to say about men? Why no as a matter of fact I don't. And does it mean I think men should just go along with whatever feminism says would be good for us? Bwahahahahah! No, because that would be just more of the same letting women do the heavy lifting expectation-wise wouldn't it? Which in my very sincere opinion would be falling once again into the most insidiously anti-feminist trap possible. It's ok to listen to feminists as human beings contributed to what might be a consensus on expectations, but because they are human beings there's no reason to believe they've got any essential insight. In fact almost the opposite! There needs to be a consensus on equal expectations precisely because society demands as much too much of women as it expects too little of men. That's something we can only all work out together.

Anyway, I seriously appreciate those feminists who've got enough respect for men (and, I'd add, enough realism about women) to recognize that one of the most critical equalities is not simply equality of opportunity ("classic-liberal" feminists) or separate-but equalities (essentialist feminists) or even equality of power (original-radical feminists) but equality of expectations. Because, seriously, the sentiment captured and related, but one hopes not shared, by Celinda Lake does no favors either for men or for women. Period. At all.

Those Who Are Falsely Accused of Rape and Victims Who Aren't Believed Are Both Victims of the Same Culture of Sexual Violence

Sat, 2011-06-11 07:30

Lori Adelman says (emphasis mine)

Insofar as it’s true that the tale of the falsely accused rapist is a man’s worst nightmare, it’s also a feminist’s worst nightmare. False rape accusations- and false accusations of any kind, really, aren’t good for anyone. They shouldn’t be framed as an anti-feminist issue any more than sexual assault should be framed as solely a feminist issue. It’s when the quest for justice becomes an anti-woman bashing session that feminists have to step in.

Source: Feministing

This is not only entirely obvious but entirely true.

Quick question: who's more likely to file a false rape report?  A radical feminist, a mainstream feminist, a "I'm not a feminist but..." feminist, or a woman with no notion of feminism except maybe a second-hand anti-feminist-inspired belief that whatever feminism is it's bad and wrong?

I mean, what exactly are the common accusations of false rape supposed to be based on here?  According to even the bitterest proponents of false-accusation theory say the primary motivations for those who admit* they filed false accusations are

  • Needed an alibi to explain shame or embarrassment over pregnancy, STI, other evidence of sexual activity, truancy, etc. (50%)
  • "Rage, revenge, or retribution" against a real or perceived wrong, rejection, or betrayal by the accused (27-44%)
  • The remainder is a mix of attention-garnering disorders like Munchausen and borderline personality, criminal extortion, and "unspecified."

None of those reasons rank really high on the old feminist agenda.  Not even the Rush-Limbaugh-fueled "feminazi" one!  In fact, I'm... pretty sure you'll never find exactly zero feminists who advocate filing false rape reports.**

Adelman continues

[I]t’s frustrating to me that there’s such a strong relationship between false rape activists and anti-feminists, because in reality feminists and those trying to reduce instances of false rape accusations have a lot of overlap and a lot in common. We both want a fair and effective justice system. We both want to reduce stigma and discrimination around cases of sexual assault. We both want to find ways to facilitate more honest and truthful dialogue around rape, sexual assault, and violence in our communities and justice systems.

Same here.  It's 100% bullshit for anyone to "cry rape."  It's also 100% bullshit for an actual rape victim's account be, well, discounted. Because...

Ok, another quick question: what percent of rapes that aren't reported are actual rapes?  Ooh, that's kind of an oxymoron isn't it?  And if you figure that even opponents acknowledge that most "real" rapes go unreported we're still looking at a fuck of a lot of unpunished actual rapes and sexual assaults that false-rape activists and feminists alike have a definite and mutual interest in bringing to justice.

Now Adelman brings an accusation that while perfectly accurate is only 50% complete

[M]any men’s rights groups take up the cause of false rape accusations with great gusto, but that their enthusiasm for seeking justice through the law rarely extends to victims of sexual assault.

Again, this is as perfectly true as MRA accusations that feminists don't bring as much enthusiasm for extending sympathy for those who really are falsely accused of rape as they do for seeking justice against those who are legitimately accused.

And I'll just go out on a limb here and say that a) anyone who doesn't take the falsely accused seriously (too many feminists) or b) anyone who doesn't take the falsely disbelieved seriously (an astonishing percentage of anti-feminists and MRAs) needs to step up and see this as two sides of one single problem.

Look, I can see both sides of this issue really, really clearly.  A European immigrant friend was falsely accused of sexually abusing his pre-school-aged daughter based on bathtub photos that a clerk in a Mississippi River town Walmart thought looked suspicious.  (The photos in question wouldn't have warranted a second glance on either coast.)  The process of defending himself basically bankrupted him, nearly ruined his reputation, and tied his extended family in knots.  He wasn't allowed to see his daughter without "supervision" until middle school!  So yeah, false accusations disfigure and burn like acid in the face.

But then again I've sat and talked through the night with women friends who sure as shit were raped and weren't believed, or were so afraid they wouldn't be believed, or knew the family of the rapist*** had enough money, influence, and reputation to first publicly drag her scruffy, lower-class, not-a-virgin self through the mud and then get their son acquitted anyway.  And yeah, true accusations that nobody will take seriously are also symptoms of a deeply, disgracefully diseased society.

So I'm going to put this really simply: if you're an MRA who doesn't put as much heart and soul into insuring all real victims of rape are heard, believed, taken seriously, and see justice done then you're actually not serious about resolving the problem of false accusations of rape.

Meanwhile if you're an activist who doesn't put as much heart and soul into insuring that false accusations of rape is universally understood to be as intrinsically and inextricably deep a manifestation of rape culture as rape itself then you're not serious about resolving the problem of rape not being taken seriously either.

Rape is sexual violence and it happens often enough that everybody should take it seriously.  False accusations of rape and sexual assault are also sexual violence and while not at all as common as rape (since, remember MRAs, most real cases go unreported) and should also be taken seriously.

The problems are nearly inextricably linked, and they'll remain linked till they're addressed head on by advocates for victims of both.

* Probably a really bad idea to pick those who've just been pressured to plead guilty to lesser charges though.  Turns out that can really backfire.

** In fact you might find the opposite! A California anti-rape activist from the 1970s quoted in one of the old Whole Earth Catalogs recommended that rape victims tell police that their assailants only indecently exposed themselves.  Her reasoning went like this: rape victims are almost never believed unless they've got stab wounds, when charges are filed rape defendants are acquitted, when rape defendants are convicted they're often treated with respect by fellow prisoners, and when they get out of jail they're out of jail and that's usually that.  Meanwhile, though, accusations of indecent exposure are taken very seriously, accusers are almost always believed, defendants are rarely acquitted, if convicted of indecent exposure they receive virtually zero respect from fellow prisoners, and at least in California at the time anyone convicted of indecent exposure (but weirdly not, at the time, those convicted of rape) must register as a sex offender every time he moved for the rest of his life.

*** The same very-wealthy surgeon's son who years earlier had assaulted and nearly raped me and did rape the other boy he cornered me with.  And no, neither of us reported it either.

Case Study: the Two Rules of Desire are Driven By Men's Assumption that Sex is Always About Them

Sat, 2011-06-11 06:51

David Futrelle found a seriously complicated expression of the bogus Two Rules of Desire. What's unusual about it is that it's driven so thickly by Rule #2 (It's simultaneously inconceivable and intolerable for a man to be sexually desired.)  Basically he found a seemingly-sincere post from a highly... conflicted young man on the website Is It Normal.  Here's Futrelle

[T]his guy hates female sexuality in part because, well, he thinks the male body is ugly and so assumes – or at least feels on a gut level —  that any woman having sex with a man is being coerced, bamboozled, or raped. Yep, we’re talking about a rich and toxic stew of misogyny and misandry here. Let’s let him explain:

What little mysogyny I have in me is directed at female sexuality. I can’t stand it that females are attracted to males, ever. I hate them a little for it, just feel it in my gut. I thought for a long time when I was younger that females were basically asexual, not interested in sex, and that romance for them was something far removed from physical love. It didn’t occur to me that anyone might find the male form attractive, and I always suspected males were using some form of deception or raping women in some way when they were with them. I don’t understand this hate and distrust for my own sex. It really bothers me.

I hate that I feel there’s something wrong with a female having an active sexuality when I know intellectually there’s not.

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Source: Man Boobz

Ouch!

The Two Rules of Desire are driven heavily by the mainstream and therefore heterosexual male impression that sex is driven entirely by men's desire and that women only agree to sex in exchange for something... anything else.  The hope of pregnancy, for safety and security, maybe just dinner and a movie, or even cold hard cash are all ok.  But just "I'm horny and I'm hoping you'll help me do something about it?"  Not so much.

It would just be funny or sad if the young man didn't appear to feel angry at women who "violate" his image of what women's sexuality really ought to be.  Even if there was no misandry in his position (there's lots) and even his position wasn't misogynistic (it is) it would still be bloody fucking oppressive.  Because it would still be an almost pure expression of the dominant paradigm's view of men as the "sex class" (obliged eternally to demand sex) and women as the "no-sex class," (completely disinterested in sex per se which must always be reluctantly "earned" or "taken" but never freely offered.)

Ugg!

Old-School Feminists Laurie Toby Edison and Debbie Notkin Ask "What About the Men?"

Thu, 2011-06-09 15:47

Laurie Toby Edison and Debbie Notkin comment on a seriously rancid but informal metric called "the daughter test" used all over the place but particularly by affluent and influential men to decide what the law should condone or prohibit. (Example: economist Steven Levitt says he wouldn't want his daughter to do cocaine or be a prostitute he thinks those should be illegal. Ross the sexist dick Douthat says he'd be ok with a daughter recruited into a religious cult but not recruited into sex work so cults can be legal but not sex work.*

Chris Rock, of course, famously said a father's main duty is to keep his daughters "off the pole," meaning keeping them from becoming strippers.

Heck, millions of perfectly lovely gentlemen have embraced feminist goals over the last 40 years entirely because they want their daughters to have more options in life than society permitted their own mothers, grandmothers, wives, and sisters! (Enough so that 'wingers occasionally fulminate against voting even for conservative politicians with daughters because they're liable to go soft!)

So yada, yada, yada figleaf's going to quote some feminist pundit and then go on and on about how all this relates to women and feminism, right?

Actually no. I do that sometimes. And yeah, this time I'm going to quote two really, serious old-school feminists.

Who in response to the "daughter test" ask in very feminist, very critically conscious terms...

"What about the men?" Or more specifically, what are they thinking about their sons? (Emphasis mine.)

So what’s going on here.

These men are saying, in so many words, that they care more about what they think is good for their daughters than they do about what they think is good for the country, or the economy, or people in general. Not surprising; these are elite white American men whose job it is to know what’s best for everyone.

They want the laws to protect specifically their daughters, not their sons. Presumably, they don’t want their sons to be drug addicts, they just think sons should be taking risks in a way their daughters should not.

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They aren’t thinking about the men who will be affected by these laws–perhaps they think that men only patronize prostitutes, but never are prostitutes. Perhaps they think that some kind of deterrence that might keep their daughter away from drugs is worth having tens of thousands of men in jail for victimless crimes.

Source: Body Impolitic

Hmm... that sure looks and sounds like feminists, older feminists, older feminists who are even regularly cited by real radical feminists no less, who are deeply critical of traditional patriarchal male indifference and neglect for men, including sons, and even its attitude that men, including sons, are expendable, disposable, and incarceratable!

Feminism -- it doesn't mean what Rush Limbaugh's dittoheads keep saying it means.

* Leaving for another day the entire question of how that outlawing cocaine and sex work has been keeping everyone's daughters away from cocaine or out of sex work lately.

It's obviously not just "2nd-wave" feminists. See also:

On Why There Are More Stories About Hetero Women Breaking Down Gender Barriers Than Hetero Men

Sun, 2011-06-05 09:30

My Facebook profile image. Cached as a bandwidth-conserving courtesy
My Facebook profile image.

You know that saying “‘well-behaved’ women never make history?” I’ve been realizing lately that most of my gender-questioning posts involve women behaving outside allotted traditional gender boundaries. And it just occurred to me that for every story about powerful women's tendency towards affairs you'll pretty much won't ever see a corresponding story about a quietly monogamous homemaker husband who isn't powerful and doesn't have affairs. Unless it occurs to someone else to wonder and to then follow it up with a story. This is because sort of by definition men who are “well-behaved” the way tradition has dictated women should be… pretty much never make history either.

That’s not so much a problem as an observation that they rarely show up in articles and blog posts. For instance if I didn’t have a blog I’d only a be stay-at-home dad and would thus be invisible… as in fact I almost completely am when I Google my real name.

There are some posts from right after I got out of college. And there are references on a family website and I'm mentioned in the context of volunteering for my children's school. In other words I "exist" for my public role the same way my mother and grandmothers, and their mothers, and their mothers did. I.e. as names on birth certificates, obituary notices, and as one-liners on family trees. Again, that's not particularly bad or wrong, especially if that's what one chooses. But it does mean there aren't going to be a lot of grist for stories about those of us who break out of the roles tradition defines for men.  Any more than there will be for women who fail to break free of the confines tradition defines for them.

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