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The BDSM Community is a Great Source for Concrete Advice on Applying "No Means No"

Mon, 2011-06-27 20:19

Note: Still on a happily hectic family vacation on the awesomely laid-back Greek island of Lesvos and so posting and comment moderation will continue to be sparse.  Today or tomorrow we're going to try and get over to Skala Eresou, which in addition to being Sappho's birthplace is also supposed to have an awesome beach.

It's really great to keep spreading the message that "No means no" and as a slogan "no means no" is memorable and effective. But a slogan isn't really adequate for helping people navigate real-world situations: you also need real-world illustrations and examples. Sarah Sloane offers an example from the BDSM community that ought to be part of mainstream Relationships 101.

Keep in mind that you do not need to have a reason to say no – you are entitled to say no for any reason (or even no reason) at all. It’s YOUR decision whether to play or engage in sex. You also do not need to give them a “rain check” or tell them maybe another time unless you want to – in fact, in my experience it’s been worse for me to tell them “maybe” instead of just saying no and leaving it alone.

When I came up in my leather community, I was taught that one of the things that bind us together is a sense of respect; part of that is respect for ourselves and our ability & power to say no, and part of it is respect for the other person that we’re talking with. Honesty – not the blunt, hurtful kind, but the compassionate kind – will be something that both you and the person that you’re being honest with can live with.

Practice saying no – to your mirror, to friends, in writing – and use those practice sessions to feel more comfortable and confident when you say it. When you’re in a position where you’re not sure what to say to the other person, tell them that – and ask them if you can get back to them. Take the time you need to make a decision; it’s a very rare situation to have a potential play session with someone that you will literally never see again, so there’s no need to pressure yourself into deciding. And when it comes down to it, remember that no means no – and if the person in question spends time trying to talk you into it, or becomes defensive, then that should be a clear indication that it’s not someone that you wanted to play with in the first place.

Source: Fearless Press

It's almost a cliché in social theory that minority or alt communities will be more accurately aware of their differences and similarities than will the mainstream culture they're embedded in. And that therefore they may have useful insights that the mainstream culture would benefit from. Cliché or not, the BDSM community really has necessarily invested considerable time pondering issues of peer pressure, consent, and maintaining mutual respect. Of course, Sloan's case demonstrates that, being human beings, BDSM people often need active coaching and sometimes frequent reminders. But, being human beings, everyone else frequently needs those same reminders as well.

Via Viviane's Sex Carnival

Clarisse Thorn on Why Active Monogamy is Also Sex Positive and Thus Needs No Apologies

Thu, 2011-06-09 15:33

Clarisse Thorn, who's written thoughtfully on the appeal of BDSM and polyamory and swinging in the face of their standard objections takes a good long look at the appeal of monogamy in the face of its standard dissents. She concludes

Personally, I always think it’s really key, during any sex-positive critique, to emphasize from the start that whatever you like is cool as long as the actions you take are consensual. I know people who act all apologetic for being monogamous, usually because they’ve been overexposed to “polyvangelists” who argue that non-monogamy is “better” or “more evolved”. This is silly! Liking monogamy doesn’t have to be justified, as long as you don’t turn around and claim that non-monogamy is bad and wrong. And liking monogamy is a perfectly awesome reason for preferring monogamy!

Source: Clarisse Thorn

For probably the same reasons "sex positive" has been wielded by those seeking to lever consent through peer pressure often enough to be spoken of with everything from cynicism to scare quotes. (The same thing happened to the word "liberated" in the 1960s and 70s when it became a euphemism for "you should want to have sex with me the way I want to do it even though either you don't find me attractive or you don't enjoy what I'm proposing."

But as I like to point out from time to time, sincerely, without ironic, and with no tepid "to be sure" boiler plating, to be sex positive is not about agreeing to or endorsing any proposed sexual act or interest. Instead it's to acknowledge that other people might consciously, willingly, and deliberately find sexual gratification by means that don't necessarily do the same for you.

For this reason being sex positive is exactly opposite being automatically open to any activity any partner might propose. The closest it comes is to being willing to recognize or at least to consider what might be appealing about a practice to others even as you decline to participate yourself. (Case in point: does Sen. David Vitter's baby-play fetish appeal to me? No, it doesn't even turn me off! Except perhaps in the most general terms I don't understand the appeal at all. That said, while I'll avalanche his ass in stickleburrs for his aching, supercilious hypocrisy actively condemning others for acts he enjoys (non-monogamy, sex work, and fetishism, all with adults who have affirmatively decided to participate) I recognize that it's something that intensely gratifies him sexually and that it either appeals to his partners as well... or at least doesn't trouble them enough to decline to participate.)

But here's the trick: while sex positivity is often discussed in the context of acknowledgement and toleration for "non-mainstream" activities such as kink, BDSM, polyamory, LGTB orientations, or sex work, it necessarily implies toleration and acceptance of asexuality, disinterest, and even squicks: real sex positive people are as respectful of "no thank you" as they are of "yes please." Even if those who really, truly would never say no themselves.

But it especially implies toleration and acknowledgment of monogamy. Because after all, even in very open societies monogamy (serial or lifelong) is the most frequently chosen relationship option. Yes, of course, there's enormous (sex-negative!) pressure to make and keep monogamy the default or even the only sanctioned form of relationship. But that in no way invalidate the choice of those who are attracted to it at all, at all. Nor does it invalidate the very real benefits Clarisse articulates that make it attractive to those who choose it, even as many others are attracted to the benefits of their own choices.

Challenging the Categorization of Massage as "Vanilla"

Thu, 2010-05-20 06:37

I’m not sure why massage is supposed to fall under the heading of “vanilla” play. Unless maybe it’s its familiarity as “foreplay” that breeds contempt. But there’s so much more to massage than “candles and a backrub!”

The range of sensations you can create with massage goes from ethereal to enervating, devastating to divine. It requires a great deal of trust in multiple dimensions. A well-designed massage table, even a light one, can easily support an amazing amount of kinetic force, motion, and weight. The right height for massage happens to be the right height for a lot of other activities. They’re designed to resist water, oil, and silicone-based lubricants. And where there are massage tables there’s usually plenty of sheets, towels, heat sources, ice, and privacy. They easily accommodate service or dominance, submission or surrender, and best of all.

Best of all, switching is encouraged.

By the way, by arguing that massage isn’t “vanilla” I’m not arguing it must therefore instead be “kinky.” Quite the opposite. I think it nicely demonstrates the false distinction between the two. First because the overlap too broad for the distinctions to be useful. Second because the distinction is incomplete. Consider, for instance, that people who approve of “kink” are likely to also be far more accepting of “vanilla” massage whereas most of the “only for procreation” crowd are going to regard massage with as much suspicion as they would spanking. Finally? Certain subsets of “kinky” people are likely to dismiss both massage and spanking as insufficiently edgy and therefore equally “vanilla” activities.

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Incidentally, there’s a Half-Nekkid Thursday meme version of this post here.

HNT - Massage Table Daydreams

A friend asked us to store a massage table at our house for a day or so. Seemed like a nice opportunity to daydream.

By the way, I’m not sure why massage is supposed to fall under the heading of “vanilla” play. Unless maybe it’s its familiarity as “foreplay” that breeds contempt. But there’s so much more to massage than “candles and a backrub!”

The range of sensations you can create with massage goes from ethereal to enervating, devastating to divine. It requires a great deal of trust in multiple dimensions. A well-designed massage table, even a light one, can easily support an amazing amount of kinetic force, motion, and weight. The right height for massage happens to be the right height for a lot of other activities. They’re designed to resist water, oil, and silicone-based lubricants. And where there are massage tables there’s usually plenty of sheets, towels, heat sources, ice, and privacy. They easily accommodate service or dominance, submission or surrender, and best of all.

Best of all, switching is encouraged. So for the purposes of daydreams… would you rather first give a massage or receive?

Happy HNT (or Half-nekkid Thursday!)





More like this here.

On Geeks, Kinks, and "Real" Vanilla Flavors

Tue, 2009-05-12 11:19

It’s really annoying, and patronizing, and counterproductive to refer to sexually aware people who don’t drool down other people’s blouses (without a negotiated invitation anyway) as “sex geeks.” Or geeks, period.

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Which gets to something Ghostorchid said about “vanilla” vs. “kink” approaches to sex in comments to Miriam Perez’s post at Feministing

I feel like there’s sometimes a tendency in the alt.sex and sex blogger scene where it’s “all kinks respected” but it’s okay to make little jokes about “vanilla” or to imply that more conventional folks would benefit from “more creativity” and “exploring” and whatnot. There’s this tiny assumption that they’re a little repressed, playing on the safe side, or missing out.

I also feel like there’s an assumption that trickles around in alt sex communities that the alt sex scene is the “healthier, better alternative”, when it’s really just as great and as screwed up as every other scene. I get frequently told I should try more kink stuff by people who don’t understand or can’t believe that I’ve had horrible experiences in the kink scene. They insist I was just with the wrong people, although I was surrounded by radical self-identified feminist types who departed feeling like they’d exhibited great sexual politics while I felt sad and betrayed and erased. It’s as though alt.sex and kink is the cure-all to sexual power issues.

She said it here.

Before I go anywhere else with this I want to acknowledge Orchid Ghost’s unhappy experiences. They’re way too common in kink where, unfortunately, the “smartest people in the room” effect — where it’s assumed that if we’re doing it we must be doing it right so if you don’t like it you must be doing something wrong — can be as common as anywhere else something new or unfamiliar is practiced. There’s also the plain old ordinary fact that players and users are as likely to attach themselves to sexual advocacy groups as anywhere else (in non-sexual terms see eternal attempts by “young socialist” and “anarchist” groups to hijack or subvert social-organizing and protest movements.) And finally, like any other complex skill involving technology, emotions, and/or body fluids, it’s easy for beginners to get hurt — either by themselves or because those who are adept forget that it’s not “intuitive.” (Computer pundit John Dvorak correctly quipped that the Unix operating system is intuitive once you thoroughly understand it.)

That said…

The common assumption is that “vanilla” equals “normal” and “kink” means alternative, naughty, radical, or (especially) transgressive. Instead “vanilla” implies a patriarchal and heteronormative, reproduction-centric, penis-in-vagina-intercourse-till-male-ejaculation-focused form of sex where negotiation terminates with a woman’s “consent” to let the man proceed to “take” her as he sees fit.

Whereas “kink” tends to include any sexual activity with any combination of individuals, orientations, body parts, and sensory preferences (including the traditional “vanilla” ones) with the significant difference being that consent signals the beginning rather than the end of communication, negotiation, and shared decision-making.

That “vanilla” people think it’s “kinky” to continue negotiating after consent has been given says all anyone needs to know about why both terms are almost perfectly inappropriate and non-descriptive terms.

And returning to Orchid Ghost’s unfortunate experiences, simply calling one’s self “kinky” can be as empty as calling one’s self “sex positive” or (from back in the 1960s and 1970s) “sexually liberated.” But it is the case that “kink” has more of a framework for intentionality, negotiation, and a “principle of least surprise“ than “vanilla…” which (speaking of principle of least surprise!) can include the inherently non-consensual, non-negotiated and extraordinarily transgressive “penis in popcorn box“ stunt. Just sayin’

Update: In comments SnowdropExplodes says Dw3t-Hthr talks about being the “clean up crew” when people have been “smartest in the room“ing.

Not Points On a Single Continuum: Kink and Vanilla, Straight vs LGBT, Good vs Boring

Mon, 2009-01-26 18:36

Clarisse Thorn of BDSM Outreach says

So … if BDSMers refer to non-BDSMers as “vanilla” ... does that mean we’re looking down on their sexuality? That we’re saying it’s “not as good”?

I’ve tried thinking about this from the vantages of other alternative sexualities. For instance, if “straight” weren’t such an established term — if it weren’t a word that I’d grown up using — I think I might feel slightly miffed that it’s the word for non-LGBTQ folks. I mean, I may primarily be interested in having sex with men, but must the word for that be “straight”? Am I “straight”? Is all of my beautiful unique snowflake personality a “straight” one? ... How boring!

Obviously “straight” is only a descriptor of my sexual preferences and not my entire personality. But that’s not necessarily how it feels when I hear it. And from that perspective, it’s somewhat understandable that some vanilla people feel insulted when called “vanilla”. No one wants to be “not as good as chocolate”!

Read the quote in context here.

Leaving aside that “straight” (with all it’s implications of rightness/correctness) is even more problematic than “vanilla” (which merely implies lack of imagination) I think this is a great point. It’s perfectly possible to be astonishingly bland without being “straight” (see Andrew Sullivan) just as it’s possible for “straight” people to be extravagantly crooked (see Senator Vitter.) Similarly one can be non-vanilla and still barkingly pedestrian. And see also Holly’s take on the fantasy that “kink equals not-boring”

Speaking of Clarisse Thorne though, Guy of Midwest Teen Sex Show says

Chicago sex activist Clarisse Thorn emailed me about a new series she’s curating at the Jane Addams Hull-House Museum here in Chicago. Sex Positive is a free documentary film series for people who like sex.

SEX +++ FILM SERIES
2nd & 4th Tuesdays at 7PM
beginning January 27, 2009
Jane Addams Hull-House Museum
800 South Halsted
312.413.5353

Read the quote in context here.

If you’re in the Chicago vicinity you might want to check it out.

Good Words, Bad Words, and Why It's More Accurate to Call Alex Castellanos an Asshole

Wed, 2008-05-21 09:27

Matthew Yglesias, the only pundit I’m aware of with a formal education in philosophy, came up with a very brief account of why some words are more difficult to repurpose or “reclaim” than others.**

Jessica Valenti notes that GOP consultant Alex Castellanos thinks it’s sometimes “accurate” to call a woman a “bitch.”

To perhaps overanalyze, the trouble here is that “bitch” is what they call a “thick moral concept” in the philosophy game. A “thin” moral concept purely expresses a judgment — so you might say something was “good” or “bad” and that doesn’t carry any descriptive content apart from the ethical evaluation. But there are also thick moral concepts like “brave.” To call an act “brave” is to praise it, just like calling it “good” is, but it’s not merely to praise it — you might agree that someone has done something praiseworthy but still say “brave” is an inappropriate description because it didn’t involve risk in the right kind of way.

One of the ways in which sexism in our society works is that there are several highly-gendered thick moral concepts of which “bitch” and “slut” are probably the most salient. It’s true, of course, that some women do manifest the non-normative descriptive qualities associated with those terms. But the crux of the matter is that the alleged accuracy or lack thereof of such a term is besides the point, the concepts themselves are part of an inherently sexist conceptual scheme — the terms just are the moral vocabulary of the sexist.

I lifted his entire post from here.

Contrast calling someone a dick vs. a pussy: Both are topically identical expressions of disapproval but they’re not just topical — they contain cartloads of assumptions about gendered power.

Contrast instead “vanilla” and “kink,” each of which carries an implication of sexual abnormality (boring on the one hand, transgressive on the other) when in fact most practices in either category are actually pretty normal.***

At any rate, while I really don’t expect everyone to drop their favorite terms, or even insults, on my say so or Yglesias’s, I think he’s nicely captured why I think it’s a good idea to try and capture rhetorical high ground. Vibrators aren’t “kinky” they’re normal, hemp rope isn’t kinky it’s normal, even the missionary position isn’t “kinky” it’s normal… even though it’s tailor-made for role-playing seriously repressed colonial Victorians. And similarly “sluts” don’t have more than an arbitrary “number” of partners over a lifetime, normal people do.

Actually I think if we want to challenge thick moral concepts consider the fate of the poor word “normal,” which surely deserves repurposing beyond it’s current claustrophobic connotation. It’s not that “kink” isn’t interesting or erotic about kink, it’s that “normal” turns out to be far more interesting, and erotic and… well… kinky than even kinky people are willing to let on.

As a libertine prude I believe we’re all actually pretty normal.” As a prudish libertine I believe there’s a wonderful variety of different kinds of normal to choose from!”

[** I’m not positive, for instance, there was ever a recoverable non-perjorative meaning for “slut.” That doesn’t mean it’s not worth trying, just that it might turn out to be very hard. —fl]

[*** For instance oral sex, once referred to in underground personal ads with the code word “French Culture,” was until recently considered extravagantly kinky. And/or perversion. And/or sodomy. Regardless of the sex of the participants. And meanwhile man-on-top/missionary/lights-out/through-a-hole-in-the-sheet/only-for-procreation/only-till-male-ejaculation practice — the üuber vanilla act — is arguably flag-raisingly deviant. —fl]

Re-reconsidering Vanilla

Tue, 2008-05-20 22:38


Photo by Flickr user brocktopia. Used under a Creative Commons license.

I’ve brought this up before elsewhere but has anyone checked out just how exotic vanilla plants are? They’re epiphite orchids! The flowers can resemble male or female genitalia (depending on how you look.) The flavor’s incredibly sophisticated. There are thousands of variations of what you can do with it. By comparison stinging nettles, used in BDSM, seems almost boring. :-)

That’s not to say BDSM itself is boring — far from it! It’s just that vanilla actually isn’t very boring either.

[Note: Image behind the “Continue reading…” fold is slightly unsafe for work. —fl]

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