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The Complex Interplay of Preferences in Partner's Personal Grooming

Photo by Flickr user Nicole Marti. Cached as a bandwidth-conserving courtesy
Photo by Flickr user Nicole Marti. Used under a Creative Commons license.

Over on the Reddit sex thread a poster named dreadlezzepin asks a good tables-turning question.

Do women think its weird when men shave their pubes all the way off?

Just curious, I usually just trim but today I had to do some much needed manscaping to do so I shaved them all off, being that I wouldnt have to worry so much about them. So do women generally prefer guys with shaved pubic hair or more natural? Also, guys what do you do?

Source: Reddit

For the record the answers trend heavily towards trimming rather than complete removal or not modifying it at all.

I think this male pubic hair grooming trend is pretty interesting. (And while I can't find the link it's one I predicted years ago.) I mean, yes, men aren't as subject to the rigorous scrutiny of appearance that women are, and so the question will probably never have the incredible social weight (or antagonism) that women's pubic grooming has. So call what's happening to men a good control group that helps explain why so many women who don't otherwise give fashion the time of day end up grooming themselves.

The sensation of being touched on bare or closely trimmed skin really is greater than being touched through a thicker covering of hair; it really is amazingly easier to keep clean; it won't tickle your partner's nose when they kiss nearby, in some cases minimizing UTIs either for one's self or one's partners, etc.

Meanwhile I'm curious what, if any, collateral effects might show up over time as men continue to adopt pubic grooming, particularly in light of conflicting conveniences of doing it vs not, of feeling scrutinized by partners, the ongoing influence of porn (where shaving for men appears to be more and more common.)  And, of course, whether their partners do or don't groom theirs.  And why.


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The (Rare but Real) Hazards of "Cosmetic" Shaving and Waxing

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Feminist Law Professors says

Call it willful blindness, but I hadn’t seen this 2007 article from the Clinical Infectious Diseases journal (Oxford University).  Here is an excerpt from Severe Complications of a ‘Brazilian’ Bikini Wax:

Waxing . . . is the most common method for extensive depilation, and complications include burns, mechanical folliculitis, infectious folliculitis, other infections of skin and soft tissues, and contact dermatitis and/or vulvitis. Removal of hair causes skin microtrauma, with inoculation of pathogens and subsequent mechanical spread of infection. A recent systematic review of surgical site infections found that shaving resulted in more infections than clipping, presumably because the skin was not breached with clippers. Infecting organisms can be from autoinoculation of skin or vaginal flora and group A streptococci are known to colonize the vagina. Infecting bacteria can include S. aureus and Pseudomonas aeruginosa, and other potential pathogens include human papilloma virus, molluscum contagiosum, dermatophytes (such asTrichophyton ton- surans) resulting in Majocchi granuloma, and more unusual fungi, such as Sporothrix schenckii, which has been reported following electrolysis.

Citations omitted.  Read the full article here.

Source: Feminist Law Professors

Yes to this. These complications all sound exactly like the ones men face when we shave our... well... faces. It doesn't look like they mentioned MRSA in the section Prof. Crawford quoted but that's a risk too. For men it's a problem enough that athletes have been advised for years not to do "cosmetic shaving" in locker rooms (where too many men often have to share too few sinks when they're in too big a hurry to get out.) It's easy to see how similar problems would arise in waxing salons or even (as her quote suggests, during prep for surgery!)

In practice those complications are usually very rare, and women may be as likely to continue shaving as men do. But there is a risk and it can seem pretty big for strictly cosmetic benefits.


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HNT - Body Hair Issues, Back-Hair Edition

Introduction: For a number of years I participated in the Half-Nekked Thursday self-photography meme.  About a year or so ago I began winding down and I can't even remember the last time I participated.  Maybe because it's finally spring here (even if an unusually cold and wet one even for the Pacific Northwest) or maybe it's because I've really started perking up since beginning a course of Welbutrin about a month ago, or maybe it's because I don't think I'll ever shake the "NSFW" designation for my poor politics and sociology of sex, gender, and relationships, or maybe it's just for the heck of it.  But I was thinking about it the other day took a few experimental over-the-shoulder photos.  And made a surprise discovery about my physical apperance that I thought was worth bringing up.

So we're all aware that there's, um, controversy about whether or not people in general, and women in particular, should remove their pubic hair. All fine and fair enough -- there's considerable differences of opinion, much involving appearance-related pressure, others involving "pre-pubescence," others involving other esthetics such as sensation, texture, conformity, and even cleanliness.

So! Not much agreement there.

There's another, stealthier area where agreement about body-hair removal appears to be much closer to universal. It's in an unusual place. And it appears almost exclusively on only one biological sex.

Check out the following keyword searches (from Google, May 11, 2011.)

Image captured by Figleaf (hey that's me)
Image captured by Figleaf (hey that's me) Posted under a Creative Commons license.

Wild, huh? Considering the controversy it's not surprising that there would be more than million hits on the key phrase "hair removal pubic." One million hits!

Wilder, and perhaps weirder, there are seventeen million hits on the key phrase "hair removal back."

You can mix and match key phrases, adding for instance waxing, shaving, laser, and other removal-related terms to the base terms "pubic" and "back" and get fairly consistent results. Back hair -- typically an age-related development that tends to signal middle age in men (along with ear and nose hair) has very, very few advocates, adherents, or aficionados.

Sigh. Which means it's very likely that instead of spending time contemplating my cute but manly butt in the photo below (c'mon, it looks cute!) your attention may instead be drawn in more of a shoulder-ly direction. And if it does your attention may further be drawn to a not-quite-lush but growing dusting of back and shoulder hair.

Based on Google's results I'm guessing odds are about 17 to 1 that if you do notice the back hair you won't find it very appealing. But I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.

Image captured by Figleaf (hey that's me)
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Happy HNT (or Half-nekkid Thursday!)


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Little Green Apples

This is a follow-up, in part, of yesterday’s post about lolicons.


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Just a quick follow-up on the lilicons post. Lest you imagine that the caption of the image should have said “‘Lilicon,’ it has a nicer ring than ephebophile,” rather than pedophile since the children in that particular image might plausibly be post-pubescent let me direct your attention to the Wikipedia entry. Point being that yeah, sure, some of them might be older but were the “lolicons” in this image real children then hints of breast tissue notwithstanding none of them would be older than nine. Let’s rest our case there, m’kay? Also eww!

So the other day Chelsea Summers of Pretty Dumb Things wrote a post about the practicalities, the propriety, the pros, and the cons of pubic hair in popular culture. Or the removal thereof. One point that hair-removal opponents keep raising, over and over, is that the intent is to make women look pre-pubescent. Which is, I’m sorry, not just wrong but aggravating[**] unless you also believe shaving makes men’s faces look pre-pubescent. (I can accept that if you’re really, really unfamiliar with either grown women’s or grown men’s bare pelvises or faces you might mistake them with children’s, but that indicates only your lack of familiarity, not a lack of actual difference.)

That doesn’t mean I think everyone should wax their privates bald as billiard balls or polish sausages. In fact I think body hair can be dreadfully sexy and agree with Ell that while removal improves sensation, why remove more than you need? But exhortations to leave it alone is a fashion judgment on my part and… well.. it’s your part, not mine so how anyone fashions his or herself is and should be entirely up to him or her.

Having ended that little rant, Louise Livesey of The F-Word Blog brings up an obvious exception:

We’ve all seen how children’s clothing has become more and more sexualised, well the next move is apparently waxing for pubescents. Oh yes braxilians for the pre-teens….

Read about it here.

Yes, waxing pubescent genitals will indeed make them look more pre-pubescent again.

Now personally, like the old English aristocracy, I tend to think children should be allowed and expected to be children until their debuts at eighteen or twenty whereupon boys may wear long pants, girls may dress up, and all may begin calling upon one another. And yes, that makes me a very prudish libertine. But it does help explain why allowing children to wax, like allowing them to drive, smoke, wear make-up, or take gin, seems like a very bad idea to me. Not because it’s wrong to actually look pre-pubescent but because it’s a failure to allow children to be children or to develop their own senses of adulthood out of experience instead of mimicry.

So seriously. While there’s nothing objectively wrong with children waxing themselves, there is something problematic about parents failing to parent, where parenting includes giving children the room to be children in, even though they’re clambering to be “all grown up.”

[** Note: I originally, intemperately, said “stupid” instead of “aggravating” for reasons I explain in comment responses. —fl]


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