Cherry Bomb of Queen of Cream, discussing the uncertainty and awe she feels for people who can pose naked said
“Maybe it’s exposing that confusion and lack of control to the world that really terrifies me…putting it out there and then letting it be interpreted however it will be. Because in the end, it’s not really about what the audience is seeing when they look. I mean, other people are generally oblivious to the kinds of physical “flawsâ€? over which most of us obsess, and besides, you’re never going to be everyone’s type anyway. In the end it’s just about being able to take in the whole picture and admire what you’re seeing in between your own spread legs.”
Part of the vulnerability of exposing one’s self is that you no longer control the interpretation of your body image. It’s frustrating when people are oblivious to “flaws” we find obvious — mores when they’re not even being oblivious because there’s no flaw. Other people assess us against what they see instead of what we’d prefer to be.
For instance I had terrible asthma growing up and into my middle twenties was painfully, gauntly chicken-chested and sickly. I used to dream endlessly of looking like Spiderman or Superman. Even though I’m grown up now, and strong enough to sweep you off your feet, carry you upstairs, push you back on the bed, and ravish you (or more prosaically load a refrigerator, stove, and washer/dryer into a pickup) I look at myself and see… still no Spiderman shoulders, no Superman chest, and so I find myself wanting. That’s my interpretation of myself based on years and years of no-longer-valid images of myself. (I also still think of myself as small even though now I’m six foot three and weigh 200 pounds, but that’s part of the same phenomenon.)
When others look at me they don’t see the childhood me. You don’t see the isn’t-Spiderman me. You just see me the way I am and not how I wish to be. When you see me I lose control of the interpretation. Objectively that’s not a bad thing but it is a bit of a subjective shock when other interpretations contradict mine. First I want to argue, then I can’t believe you’re serious, finally I start to reassess. I don’t know if I’ll ever lose my interpretation but the confrontation with my self image, the reality checks of other people’s remarks, is forcing alterations.
I bring this up because I’m seeing the same thing happening over and over with the new sex-blog phenomenon of Half Nekkid Thursday that Obasso started. In case you’ve been off line for the last six months Half Nekkid Thursday photos (now HNT for short) crop up now in hundreds of blogs. There’s now even at least one official animated logo. (You can see a partial list of participants in Obasso’s sidebar here.)
People start out really shy. Early on they started out outright coy, often posting just a wrist on a steering wheel or a belly-button peeking out from under a t-shirt. But here’s the thing: comments are overwhelmingly positive. More to the point, when some clueless young person pipes in “but your boobs aren’t as big as Angelina Jolie’s,” he or she gets pounded in further comments.
And here’s the deal with that: Strictly speaking the comments are true — the HNT poster’s boobs probably aren’t as big as Angelina Jolie’s, nor is her waist as tiny as Kira Knightly’s, nor her butt as round as Queen Latifa’s or whatever. The problem is there’s more than one standard of beauty, and for the most part most of us fit at least one of those other standards. (Case in point: Knightly’s boobs aren’t as big as Jolie’s. Jolie’s waist isn’t as narrow as Knightly’s. So why aren’t more people complaining about them? There’s more than one, or ten, or (as my six year old would say) eleven thousand sixty million jillion billion “standards.”) The point? Actually there are two.
Point #1: It’s stunning how often one troll amidst sometimes a hundred complements can bring the poster down. Why? I understand the feeling — I feel it myself — but I don’t get it.
Point #2: Ninety nine out of a hundred HNT-post commenters can’t be wrong. (And since I generally agree with the ninety-nine and I’m an excellent judge I can say with authority they’re not.) We’re all pretty attractive, enough that we have to pay attention when people tell us.
Cherry Bomb also says one “can’t be everyone’s type.” I’d like to challenge that construction. Usually there’s only a narrow section of people who’s type we can’t be. Few people are so limited (and presumably lonely since I think Jolie’s still dating Brad Pitt) that they can’t appreciate your type. Not being the right people for that little slice is important only when one is one’s self a member of that unpleasable group… and I think that’s why the one negative comment in a hundred devastates people. They’re affirming rather than contradicting our interpretation of ourselves and when you think about it that’s a shame. The other ninety nine still can’t be wrong. We might wish they were, but they can’t be. They can’t all just be “just being nice.”
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I’m just not self-disciplined enough to formally participate in HNT. I’m calendrically dyslexic so instead I post half-nekkidly at random intervals. But the principle still applies. If you’ve ever thought about participating though I’d really like to encourage you to try it. I think you’ll be surprised. (Remember, it only has to be half-nekkid, and you can get away with more or less than half and still qualify.




Submitted by 423 (not verified) on Sat, 2005-10-29 05:50.
I have a type, it's called women.
No I don't find all women sexually attractive. No they are not all "perfect", whatever that is. I love the female form.
The “type� I do find attractive changes over time, but has never, ever been restricted to the perfect, airbrushed, digitally enhanced, squeaky-clean, specimens paraded as this seasons new face. Yes they are attractive but they lack humanity.
Alex
[Yeah, that was the missing word Alex: Restricted! Thanks. It's very easy to have preferences and totally fine too. (I can *prefer* ice cream to cake or tacos.) It's only a problem if I'm so restricted to those preferences that nothing else will do. (Technically that would be an authentic fetish.) --fl]
Submitted by 423 (not verified) on Sat, 2005-10-29 16:22.
Good Lord, man, you are smart, articulate, sexy ***and*** tall?
Wait, I had something intelligent to say.
It's not how the body looks that is attractive. It's that little somethings that comes out in the eyes and the voice. Call it attitude or soul or what have you--that is the attractive part.
And there is something inherently sexy in someone who is willing to get half-nekkid on their own blog--just for the joy of it!--on Thursday or any other day.
[Thanks for the kind words, AG. And you just put into thirty words what took me about fifty-five paragraphs. There is something sexy about someone who's willing to take a photo of him or herself and post it. It's not so much about confidence, though it takes that too. It's also about trusting others to give you honest feedback, even if it's not the feedback you expect. That's cool. --fl]
Submitted by 423 (not verified) on Sun, 2005-10-30 01:40.
Personally, to me less has always been more.
[Up to a point you're absolutely right. Past that point, though, one runs into a situation where one has no external validation of one's interpretation of image. (I'm not saying you're doing that at all, at all, Dewdrop. I enjoy your tongue-in-cheek posts, by the way.)
Submitted by 423 (not verified) on Sun, 2005-10-30 16:15.
I really enjoyed hearing about how HNT has been a part of the continuing evolution of your own self-image. I'm a bit of an exhibitionist, but have not always been so. Posting images of myself has helped me to play, experiment and become more confident. There is a risk and a vulnerability, no doubt, but I also feel a sense of power from the freedom of putting myself out there no matter what the comments might be. Thanks for being a risk-taker and for letting us see you. rubyprincess
[Yup, and y'know it's actually easier to put yourself "on the line" in front of strangers online than it would be to ask, for instance, colleagues at work. This is one area where anonymity works pretty well -- not really knowing you, people are able to assess your body more... well, I'm not sure dispassionately is the right term, but they have far less reason to prevaricate and also (perhaps conversely) less reason to wilfully hurt your feelings. --fl]
Submitted by 423 (not verified) on Wed, 2005-11-02 15:09.
...interesting insights on all that is "HNT."
...& what was that you said? "Calendrically dyslexic." That's fabulous.
...& your suit is utterly fabulous.
Thanks for stopping by and for your comment as well.
[Thanks for the kind words, Tiger. Thanks for dropping by too. --fl]
Submitted by 423 (not verified) on Wed, 2005-11-02 21:33.
the outside of someone can be devestatinly gorgeous but if they open their mouth and have the most vile personality? i don't care what they look like at that point.
everyone has hang ups but i'm finding with age they mellow a bit.
[And I'm saying the point isn't that you have to be gorgeous in the first place to still be attractive to somebody. I agree you'd have to be stunningly shallow not to prefer gorgeous on the inside. Thanks, J. --fl]
Submitted by 423 (not verified) on Wed, 2005-11-02 21:51.
Of course, if you're me, and your blog has your actual name on it and is known to your coworkers, family, and everyone at your church, exhibitionism becomes unlikely :-).
Once, back in my single days, I did a calculation of exactly what percentage of the people I'd found attractive had reciprocated. It was about 20%. Maybe that percentage was brought down by some people already being busy pursuing someone else (or even taken and I didn't know it), and by my frequent use of the telepathy method of communicating my interest. But I think I'm actually not sexy to most people, and I think that's probably OK. After all, most people aren't actually sexy to me (even including some people who are otherwise good-looking). And they don't really need to be.
Of course, sexy enough that someone actually wants to get involved with you may be a higher bar than sexy enough that someone would like to look at a naked photo of you. So it's just possible that more than 20% of the people I was interested in would cheerfully have looked at naked pictures of me on the Internet (had I been posting such things, twenty or so years ago).
[Good points of course, Lynn. My feeling, though, would be that if enough regular people posted photos of themselves we'd develop a better idea of what attractive really means. Or, to put it another way, if all we see are top-of-the-line actors and models we're going to judge our ordinary selves more harshly than if we see more people like us. This is the other side of the naturist/nudist argument that after a while you don't even notice other people's nakedess. In my experience the opposite's sort of true: you notice that, really, quite a few people are attractive but you still don't have to jump everyone's bones. As you say if only 20% of the population found you attractive that still gives you a pool of... 14 million or so adult men and roughly the same number of women. And most of us only need to find one. --fl]