Geneticist and paleoanthropologist John Hawks tackles arguments from a new book claiming that modern men are wimps. (It’s called Manthropology: The Science of the Inadequate Modern Male so there you go.) Anyway, Hawks says there’s a couple of yes-buts in there.
it is entirely true that our bone cross-sectional areas have greatly reduced, with consequent reductions in compressive and torsional strength. We don’t suffer the stresses of the past, and our bones are weaker than ancient peoples’ — at least in comparison to our mass.That’s the complicated part of any comparison — men in Westernized nations today tend to be bigger than many ancient groups of people. If you’re going to compare “wimpiness” between Neandertals and living men, you have to understand the relative masses.
Americans aren’t just taller, we’re bigger than we were 200 years ago.
Did Neandertal women really have 10 percent more muscle bulk than modern European men? At 60-80 kg in mass, Neandertal women were between the 5th and 50th percentiles for American white men (link).
Hawks also puts an assertion about the running speeds of Australian aboriginal from 20,000 years ago: estimates based on preserved footprints of six men running down prey suggest the fastest was able to sprint… about as fast as a good high-school track star: a little bit faster than a modern high-school girl, slower than a modern high-school boy.
Now I’m not saying that 37 kph isn’t an impressive speed — there’s no way I could run that fast, even if I were being chased by a Sasquatch. My point is just that there isn’t very much time separating a good high school athlete from the World Record. Sprinters spend an intense effort training to shave a miniscule fraction off their times.
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But it’s hardly a knock against “modern males” to say that ancient footprints would have crossed the finish line a second slower than the fastest Wisconsin boys.
I don’t really have a lot of patience with “it’s been all downhill ever since.” Humans are very, very good at adapting to niches. We were great at it 20,000 years ago in Australia. We were really great at it in the wilds of Borneo. We were really good at it in the slums in London and New York. We were really good at it in deserts. We were really great at it in Tierra del Fuego even when we’d lost the technology for both fire and clothing (but not, significantly and not surprisingly, body decoration.) We’re also really great in suburbia, in war zones, in agrarian societies, in riparian ones, in hunter-gatherer ones, in nomadic ones, in monument-building ones, and even in darkened-surrounded-by-empty-cheetoz-bag ones.
And the funny thing is that more or less, if you dropped 100 modern human children into pretty much any human society (that would tolerate them) over the last maybe 1,000-100,000 years anywhere on the planet they’d almost certainly survive at… roughly the same survival and acculturation rates as the local children would. But also grow to roughly the same height, live only about as long, and accomplish about as much as their “ancient” peers. Same if you were to drop 100 “ancient” children from back there and then into any society today (that would tolerate them.) And, for that matter, run the 100-meter dash in roughly average time. On the other hand, drop 100 adults from either situation into either situation and either way they’d almost certainly have a rougher time of it.
It’s not that we’re not evolving, at all. (Hawks is a strong proponent of the still-evolving school of thought.) It’s that in evolutionary terms millennia are still pretty short intervals. And though culture has changed considerably from place to place and time to time, the culture in general has been a huge factor in whether and how we survive to reproduce for a very long time.




Submitted by 3254 (not verified) on Wed, 2009-10-21 22:20.
Here's one definite example of modern "evolution": the structure of women's pelvic bones. With sufficient vitamin D, girls don't grow up with rickets, which results in a fairly specific deformation of the pelvic bones - a "flat" pelvis - that doesn't easily accommodate an infant's head. Yes, nutritional improvements aren't purely genetic, but they mean that nature isn't quite so brutally selecting for those women who can naturally synthesize enough D in their girlhood.
And by "modern," I mean that this change has occurred in rich countries over the past century. No longer.
Echnide has been on a wonderful tear with Ev Psych, but I assume you've seen her posts, figleaf?
[Actually I've been desperately behind in my reading lately, but as it happens started catching up on Echidne right after posting this. And yes, she's on a wonderful tear. I'm just sorry she's tearing into that one completely unmoored-from-rigor individual from Psychology Today -- there are so many more and many of them are so much more influential over all. She makes a good point in one of her posts about EP being a lot more like a religion than science: matters of doctrine and faith inform interpretation rather than, you know, data. Oh, and by the way, yes, the advent of vitamin D supplements is just one possibly major alteration in selective pressure on humans. Thanks, Sungold. --fl]
Submitted by 3254 (not verified) on Thu, 2009-10-22 03:15.
I wonder has he thought that the amount you sit on your ass has to do with mass.
Submitted by 3254 (not verified) on Sun, 2009-10-25 19:08.
I saw an article recently that pointed to modern-day male Hollywood stars as evidence that men are becoming feminized, and that women prefer more feminine men. Specific examples included Hugh Jackman and Johnny Depp, and apparently we can expect many more such beta males in the future. (Since women who are on the Pill prefer feminized men, they will be more likely to choose them as breeding partne- oh, wait.) I have to say, as dystopic fiction, it misses the point on an epic scale. I imagine next week we'll be hearing about how environmental radiation has mutated the world's brussel sprout crops to taste like chocolate cupcakes.