The "no-sex" class: Hillary Clinton's cleavage

Fri, 2007-07-20 22:56

While tackling Washington Post fashion writer Robin Givhan’s of otherwise inexplicable condemnation of Senator Clinton for a “Tentative Dip Into New Neckline Territory,” Sassywho of I never leave the house without incident mentioned my theory of the dominant paradigm that paints women as the “no-sex” class. Sassywho says

I think that [the “no-sex” class theory] intersects with Hillary because it is so often assumed that women are not wired for sex the same as men in our culture. So society has created a whole code/decoder system that functions on the interpretation of others rather than the individual. Sexy and being a sexual person are assumed to be one in the same for women, wear the wrong outfit one day and you are denied the right to be who you are.
Look how easily the Washington Post does it:

When she appeared on the cover of the December 1998 issue of Vogue, just after the Monica Lewinsky scandal had peaked, she wore another de la Renta gown, this one with a boat neck and long sleeves. She looked glamorous, regal and defiant. But one was not even tempted to mention the s-word.

Clearly there was no way that she could have been sexy then, can you blame her man for stepping out? Now that Hillary struts around in anything less than formal wear she is a stumbling block for those who appreciate modesty:

With Clinton, there was the sense that you were catching a surreptitious glimpse at something private. You were intruding — being a voyeur. Showing cleavage is a request to be engaged in a particular way. It doesn’t necessarily mean that a woman is asking to be objectified, but it does suggest a certain confidence and physical ease. It means that a woman is content being perceived as a sexual person in addition to being seen as someone who is intelligent, authoritative, witty and whatever else might define her personality.

Sassywho said it here.


“There wasn’t an unseemly amount of
cleavage showing, but there it was.
Undeniable.” — Robin Givhan

I agree the adolescent Clinton titterfest nicely illuminates two major arms of the dominant “no-sex” class paradigm. First there’s the total denial that women are sexual at all, which manifests here as bafflement that a woman who “doesn’t have to” should even hint that she might have a sexual side. For instance check out Givhan’s gushing expressions of admiration for Clinton’s erstwhile sexless appearance in her boat-necked gown and contrast it with dismay that her current appearance hints at a bosom

Next there’s the enforcement arm, the retribution that’s brought down on women at any hint of self-instigated sexuality — the squalling condemnation that a woman with Clinton’s status might have done so. Inside the paradigm women simply never manifest sexuality without ulterior motives generally related to trying to get something or other in exchange. Clinton, a woman but extremely highly placed and married to a highly-placed man, “should” have no reason to use sex to get anything… and (since, sez the paradigm, there’s no other conceivable reason) it’s somewhere between inconceivable and inexcusable.

Absent the “no-sex” paradigm there’s no foundation for the article at all. So why has it come up? Because it provided an opportunity both to preserve and enforce the dominant male paradigm that women are the “no-sex” class.

Reminder: While my theory might seem superficially contrary to the classic radical feminist theory that women are the “sex class,” nothing about the “no-sex” class theory directly contradicts feminist theory. The difference for me is it provides a more rational explanation for men’s behavior towards women. Where “rational” in this case means “presents more opportunities for transforming or overturning” and not “gee, fellas, it makes perfect sense to imagine women don’t have sex drives like people do.”

Submitted by 1497 (not verified) on Mon, 2007-07-23 16:41.

Male politicans (including, AFAIK, Ahh-nold) aren't allowed to display sexuality either. I do admit, if a man (somehow manages) to show sexuality then he'll be condemned as "informal" or "slovenly", whereas if a woman shows sexuality the first thought to mind is "using her sexuality as a tool".

It seems that the Washington Post article was influenced by the idiocy with which we watch our public figures's appearances as opposed to their actions, rather than the idiocy with which we watch women's sexuality as opposed to men's. I'm not saying that the latter doesn't exist, of course; I find the "no sex class" theory to explain an overwhelming amount of my observations of male/female interaction. I'm just saying that I'm not sure this article in particular is evidence for that theory.

Submitted by 1497 (not verified) on Sun, 2007-07-22 07:19.

"adolescent Clinton titterfest"

Heh. Indeed!

Great post, figleaf. I know I shouldn't be surprised by how much press this little incident is getting, but it is disappointing.

[It is rediculous. Especially since to my eye she still looked like a church lady so WTF? Thank you, Ruby! --fl]

Submitted by 1497 (not verified) on Sat, 2007-07-21 13:37.

wait, so hilary didn't just run out of clothes because she had a tiff with her drycleaner? damn, i was so hoping for that to be the real explanation.

in the vanity fair cover she's supposed to look regal and defiant, not "sexy" because she couldn't pull off the sexy look. even if she could, all that would have been doing is stooping to the sex level, and effectively saying "i'm sexy too, see?" instead of the better statement "i'm above this crap"

but you're right though, that article has no place in washington post, of all papers.

[See, here's the funny part about all this. We just sort of assume that because Sen. Clinton or, say, Dick Cheney or, I dunno, Mary Poppins (to slip into fiction) don't strike us as *outwardly* sexual... as able to "pull it off..." that they must not be *inwardly* sexual either. The second doesn't necessarily follow from the first though. And where we go wrong, I think (if you want to call it "wrong") is where we imagine something like "oh, her husband slept around with an intern, she must not have been putting out" or "with her powerful position why should she need to look sexy?" Make sense? Thanks, Kermit. --fl]

Submitted by 1497 (not verified) on Sat, 2007-07-21 09:14.

I hope I wasn't missing the point.

[Sort of. If Sen. Clinton or Ms Bush really were beyond sexy then they ought to be able to show up in just a scarf and a sneeze without anyone noticing. Instead too many people peed their britches over Clinton in an outfit that I wouldn't think would be out of place at a midwestern Church supper. Thanks, Annie. --fl]

Submitted by 1497 (not verified) on Sat, 2007-07-21 10:52.

figleaf,
i wanted to get more in depth in the post, but eh, i was getting sleepy.

i don't think that your theory contradicts feminist ideology at all. the message is that men are robust sexual creatures, while women have to be tricked, prodded, manipulated or lured with a carrot(love) into sexual encounters, establishing a framework more like a duel rather than a dance.(I believe both you and Amanda said that recently).

While men are free to behave with agency and their sexuality as tertiary because it is just so, women on the other hand when exerting anything that can be considered as "sexual" it becomes a calculating checkmate.... in a chess game defined by others(men) when the rules are arbitrary giving the illusion of having the upper-hand when in reality it is a wink wink, nudge nudge... "my game, my rules"....

[Especially after your comment I really feel like you're able to own what I'm trying to say for yourself now! I can't say how great that makes me feel. As to the two approaches to the same problem I agree there's no conflict with any substance. The main difference for me is that my approach makes makes it lame and unheroic for men to stick with the ideology whereas "sex class" theory just makes us feel bad, guilty, and worst of all *defensive!* (Since defensiveness tends to make people -- men, women, and children -- more stubborn and less inclined to listen for even great opportunities to try something else.) Thank you thank you, Sassywho. --fl]

Submitted by 1497 (not verified) on Sat, 2007-07-21 09:12.

Good Saturday morning to you, Figleaf !

I just think it is that HC herself gives off no sensuality.
No matter what she wears, covered up or exposing some cleavage, she just comes off as cold to me.

So I don't think it is the clothes on women in politics -- or elsewhere for that matter -- I think it is the energy you give off when you are wearing something.

Angelina Jolie looks mind-blowingly sexy in St. John Knits (the ads), and they couldn't be more conservative.

Laura Bush could wear a bustier and it would have very little pizzazz.

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